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    why is there homelessness in 2024?

    It would be pretty easy to house everyone surely?
    or does god not think everyone deserves an abode?
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    In a capitalism society, No. If they house people for free then you would see more people just wanking off and not working.
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    Originally Posted by 2011change View Post
    In a capitalism society, No. If they house people for free then you would see more people just wanking off and not working.
    Yep, and money doesn't come from nowhere. I think people forget that everyone has to earn money
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    I think alot of it stems from bad parenting and lack of morals. There is the quote it is easier to build strong children than to repair broken men.

    When morals go out the window, combined with bad parenting, their children end up growing into weak men. Often times they get on a bad track and don't have the ability to get themselves out of it because they weren't raised to be strong.
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    Originally Posted by 2011change View Post
    In a capitalism society, No. If they house people for free then you would see more people just wanking off and not working.
    People still need to work for goods and services...

    Homelessness exists largely because society hasn't committed to housing everyone or providing mental health and asylum resources for those in need.

    BTW Japan has very few homeless and is a capitalist country, so it really has more to do with what is prioritized and how efficiently the society is run.
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    There are many homeless that cannot or do not want to be housed.

    They're either mentally unsound (due to drugs/PTSD/congenital mental issues) and don't have the mental capacity to keep up with the basic maintenance of a apartment/room. Or they actually enjoy the vagrant lifestyle and don't want to live under a roof.

    You'd have to be able to accommodate everyone specific circumstances, but priority should definitely go towards sane law abiding individuals that are actively trying to get off the streets. A lot of these people need behavioral therapy before they can have the mental capacity to live in a home, because if you just throw these people in houses they just turn into drug/sex trafficking dens and get burnt to the ground because of some meth lab accident.

    I'm glad its not something I have to deal with because I know the problem is far more complicated than just building section-8's everywhere.
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    Originally Posted by uneducated View Post
    People still need to work for goods and services...

    Homelessness exists largely because society hasn't committed to housing everyone or providing mental health and asylum resources for those in need.

    BTW Japan has very few homeless and is a capitalist country, so it really has more to do with what is prioritized and how efficiently the society is run.
    Homelessness is rare in Japan because crack heads and heroin addicts are rare.

    A lot of homeless are in that situation because they’re the types where, if you have them a million bucks, they’d spend half on a house, the other half on crack and then sell the house for more crack and be homeless again in a year.
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    Originally Posted by Mike86er View Post
    Homelessness is rare in Japan because crack heads and heroin addicts are rare.

    A lot of homeless are in that situation because they’re the types where, if you have them a million bucks, they’d spend half on a house, the other half on crack and then sell the house for more crack and be homeless again in a year.
    The drug problem is a reflection of our social policies and the kind of arrogant "fuk you" attitude our people have toward government.

    China had an opium issue once. Mao came in and handled it. Even Trump praised Mao and said it was the right thing to do. But muh commie dictators...
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    Originally Posted by 2011change View Post
    In a capitalism society, No. If they house people for free then you would see more people just wanking off and not working.
    Not if they are given bunk beds. The problem is the sides are asking all or nothing. We should not be giving them houses. Section 8 should be individual rooms with multiple beds for a family, like a cheap motel but no maid and no pool. People would be motivated to get out of there, but no one would freeze or starve.
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    Originally Posted by 7empest View Post
    Yep, and money doesn't come from nowhere. I think people forget that everyone has to earn money
    A tax to give bunk beds to 1% of the population would not even be felt by the tax payers. And it would take away all excuses for pan handling, allowing us to outlaw it. Give them oatmeal and a bunk bed, then ban panhandling. It solves the issue of not knowing who is pretending to be disabled.

    People asking for free houses and people letting others starve and freeze should all be kicked out of office.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    There are many homeless that cannot or do not want to be housed.

    They're either mentally unsound (due to drugs/PTSD/congenital mental issues) and don't have the mental capacity to keep up with the basic maintenance of a apartment/room. Or they actually enjoy the vagrant lifestyle and don't want to live under a roof.

    You'd have to be able to accommodate everyone specific circumstances, but priority should definitely go towards sane law abiding individuals that are actively trying to get off the streets. A lot of these people need behavioral therapy before they can have the mental capacity to live in a home, because if you just throw these people in houses they just turn into drug/sex trafficking dens and get burnt to the ground because of some meth lab accident.

    I'm glad its not something I have to deal with because I know the problem is far more complicated than just building section-8's everywhere.
    Too bad. We should round them up, and lock them into plush prisons. If they show they can work or stay out of trouble, they stay there or can apply to get out. If they start fights or urinate on the floor, they get sent to a real prison. And drug addicts should be treated as a danger to themselves, round up into detox clinics if their addiction is strong enough.
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    Originally Posted by uneducated View Post
    The drug problem is a reflection of our social policies and the kind of arrogant "fuk you" attitude our people have toward government.

    China had an opium issue once. Mao came in and handled it. Even Trump praised Mao and said it was the right thing to do. But muh commie dictators...
    China's drug problem was imposed by the British. They fought a war with the British to oust those drug dealers, who retreated to the coast and islands, a thorn in China's side ever since. And now China is returning the tactic against the US since Trump imposed tariffs.
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    Originally Posted by Darkius View Post
    Not if they are given bunk beds. The problem is the sides are asking all or nothing. We should not be giving them houses. Section 8 should be individual rooms with multiple beds for a family, like a cheap motel but no maid and no pool. People would be motivated to get out of there, but no one would freeze or starve.
    People who aren't motivated to get off their ass and do what it takes to move out from under a bridge aren't going to be motivated to get out of a bunk bed.

    You could ban Narcan and most of the problem would take care of itself.
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    Originally Posted by 7empest View Post
    It would be pretty easy to house everyone surely?
    or does god not think everyone deserves an abode?
    they're giving all the free housing (hotel rooms) to illegal aliens

    letting in another 16 million illegals who can't provide for themselves is only making it impossible to deal with the actual citizens who are homeless
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    Originally Posted by ThePump0561 View Post
    they're giving all the free housing (hotel rooms) to illegal aliens

    letting in another 16 million illegals who can't provide for themselves is only making it impossible to deal with the actual citizens who are homeless
    seems like not very careful planning
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    There are many homeless that cannot or do not want to be housed.

    They're either mentally unsound (due to drugs/PTSD/congenital mental issues) and don't have the mental capacity to keep up with the basic maintenance of a apartment/room. Or they actually enjoy the vagrant lifestyle and don't want to live under a roof.

    You'd have to be able to accommodate everyone specific circumstances, but priority should definitely go towards sane law abiding individuals that are actively trying to get off the streets. A lot of these people need behavioral therapy before they can have the mental capacity to live in a home, because if you just throw these people in houses they just turn into drug/sex trafficking dens and get burnt to the ground because of some meth lab accident.

    I'm glad its not something I have to deal with because I know the problem is far more complicated than just building section-8's everywhere.
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    Originally Posted by 7empest View Post
    seems like not very careful planning
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