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    Atheism is a belief not a fact.

    You don't KNOW that god is not real, you believe in God not being real.

    And as a belief it's not that common around the world.

    Interestingly enough it stems from the same people espousing that a man who chops his balls off and takes estrogen is a women.
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    Agreed, srs.

    It's not a fact.
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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    You don't KNOW that god is not real, you believe in God not being real.

    And as a belief it's not that common around the world.

    Interestingly enough it stems from the same people espousing that a man who chops his balls off and takes estrogen is a women.
    Are there people saying that atheism is a "fact" or proven?
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Are there people saying that atheism is a "fact" or proven?
    Yes.

    Every atheist known to mankind talks about their theory of evolution and how man evolved out of a monkey as if it's a fact and not a bunch of hog wash and as soon as you try to introduce the ideas of God creating everything they say 'you can't prove God is real'.
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    It is a lack of belief. Not a belief.


    More importantly, do you think this wording is some sort of profound wisdoms that devalues atheism?

    Just curious what the point is when people say things like atheism is a religion or it is a belief.

    Right or wrong, why does what you are saying matter?
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    It is a lack of belief. Not a belief.


    More importantly, do you think this wording is some sort of profound wisdoms that devalues atheism?

    Just curious what the point is when people say things like atheism is a religion or it is a belief.

    Right or wrong, why does what you are saying matter?
    Retard OP is just coping because his posts about him doing gay chit got unearthed.

    He acts like Atheists have gatherings to talk about how God isn't real, when in reality we just go about our day and don't bother worrying about if we're going to an eternal oven or not.
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    It is a lack of belief. Not a belief.


    More importantly, do you think this wording is some sort of profound wisdoms that devalues atheism?

    Just curious what the point is when people say things like atheism is a religion or it is a belief.

    Right or wrong, why does what you are saying matter?
    I think you think you're smart because you read a few articles and watched a couple videos by some deluded weirdos that think humans came from monkeys.

    How do you suppose everything in existence came about?
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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    I think you think you're smart because you read a few articles and watched a couple videos by some deluded weirdos that think humans came from monkeys.

    How do you suppose everything came about?
    You have to be one arrogant sperglord to deny evolution.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    Are there people saying that atheism is a "fact" or proven?
    Anecdotal, but in my JW days I used to run into Athiests who believed their beliefs were fact. Quite often.

    But Theist people can be just as guilty of this (I was lol).

    Dunno what I consider myself now besides spiritual.



    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    It is a lack of belief. Not a belief.


    More importantly, do you think this wording is some sort of profound wisdoms that devalues atheism?

    Just curious what the point is when people say things like atheism is a religion or it is a belief.

    Right or wrong, why does what you are saying matter?
    Hmm, that's a good way to put it. Never really thought of it like that.
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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    Yes.

    Every atheist known to mankind talks about their theory of evolution and how man evolved out of a monkey as if it's a fact and not a bunch of hog wash and as soon as you try to introduce the ideas of God creating everything they say 'you can't prove God is real'.
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    Originally Posted by ClivesTriceps View Post
    You have to be one arrogant sperglord to deny evolution.
    i deny that mankind evolved out of monkeys.

    I don't deny that a species can morph from generation to generation and elicit change to phenotype and some the the genotype.. it still remains the same species though.

    LOL at thinking man came from a monkey.
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    It is a lack of belief. Not a belief.
    Makes no sense. If I "lack a belief" that you are a human that is the same as believing you are not a human.
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    Originally Posted by skunkshark View Post
    Makes no sense. If I "lack a belief" that you are a human that is the same as believing you are not a human.
    Like I said, he thinks he's smarter than what he is and he's adopted some attitude and beliefs from famous atheists so he thinks he's an intellectual.

    "we don't need God to explain the intelligence that's found in the design of life, we have evolution".
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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    I think you think you're smart because you read a few articles and watched a couple videos by some deluded weirdos that think humans came from monkeys.

    How do you suppose everything in existence came about?

    Was there something wrong with what I said?

    Can you answer my question?



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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    Yes.

    Every atheist known to mankind talks about their theory of evolution and how man evolved out of a monkey as if it's a fact and not a bunch of hog wash and as soon as you try to introduce the ideas of God creating everything they say 'you can't prove God is real'.
    I have not heard that. I've just heard that its most logical to assume there is no god (then they list off their reasons).

    Also, evolution is not synonymous with atheism. You can be religious and believe in evolution.
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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    i deny that mankind evolved out of monkeys.

    I don't deny that a species can morph from generation to generation and elicit change to phenotype and some the the genotype.. it still remains the same species though.

    LOL at thinking man came from a monkey.
    Amazing how chtistcels use science to try and defeat science.

    You need to open a book and your closed mind. Read up on common ancestors and species branching off. Your simple mind can't grasp the fact evolution from single cell to mutil cellular life takes billions of years. Pre historic man to modern humans didn't happen in 1,000 years or 10,000. It took hundreds of thousands.

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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    I think you think you're smart because you read a few articles and watched a couple videos by some deluded weirdos that think humans came from monkeys.

    How do you suppose everything in existence came about?


    You've got your head jammed further up your asss than fundementalist pastor. You've got no clue what you're talking about. It's clear as day that you've lived an incredibly sheltered life, despite your fraudulent claims of being some Billy Badasss who ran chit in rough neighborhoods
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    Was there something wrong with what I said?

    Can you answer my question?



    You gave up pretty easy man.
    Was there something wrong with what i said though?
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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    Like I said, he thinks he's smarter than what he is and he's adopted some attitude and beliefs from famous atheists so he thinks he's an intellectual.

    "we don't need God to explain the intelligence that's found in the design of life, we have evolution".
    So far you have had ad hominem and strawman “arguments”.


    You do not know anything about me or my beliefs at all. You are simply destroying your own position by focusing on me.
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    I have not heard that. I've just heard that its most logical to assume there is no god (then they list off their reasons).

    Also, evolution is not synonymous with atheism. You can be religious and believe in evolution.
    It's logical to assume that the world wasn't created by a higher power like it'ss logical to think that a high rise building or m3 sports car came about spontaneously? See how beliefs work? at least say it's counterintuitive

    Originally Posted by ClivesTriceps View Post
    Amazing how chtistcels use science to try and defeat science.

    You need to open a book and your closed mind. Read up on common ancestors and species branching off. Your simple mind can't grasp the fact evolution from single cell to mutil cellular life takes billions of years. Pre historic man to modern humans didn't happen in 1,000 years or 10,000. It took hundreds of thousands.

    Retardation and arrogance is a dangerous combo, boyo.
    so what did this common ancestor look like, as in how is it depicted by artist's renditions?
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    So far you have had ad hominem and strawman “arguments”.


    You do not know anything about me or my beliefs at all. You are simply destroying your own position by focusing on me.
    you seem to argue against anything non-physical everytime i see you post in a thread like this - like the atheists you look up to you pull out the 'big words' such as ad hominem to seem educated lmfao
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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    It's logical to assume that the world wasn't created by a higher power like it'ss logical to think that a high rise building or m3 sports car came about spontaneously? See how beliefs work? at least say it's counterintuitive

    so what did this common ancestor look like, as in how is it depicted by artist's renditions?
    We have something even better. Fossils. If you bothered to walk into a natural history museum, you could check them out if you weren't busy walking into a church that spouts fairy tales.
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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    Was there something wrong with what i said though?
    Yes, as I stated.

    By definition, it is a lack of belief. It is not a belief. There is a difference.

    I accept you will not agree with that.
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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    It's logical to assume that the world wasn't created by a higher power like it'ss logical to think that a high rise building or m3 sports car came about spontaneously? See how beliefs work? at least say it's counterintuitive

    so what did this common ancestor look like, as in how is it depicted by artist's renditions?


    You like to conflate abiogenesis with evolution. Classic creationist move.

    In any case, we really barely have any fkn clue how the universe started. The Big Bang Theory is pretty meh, in my opinion. That being said, it's no worse of a guess than saying "It must have been a giant invisible guy in the sky with magical powers".

    As for you claiming atheism is a religion, some of them who get obsessive to neckbeard levels can kind of turn it into one in a weird way, but it's simply a lack of belief for people who aren't like that. Atheists don't gather at buildings to put money in collection tins and listen to a guy tell them the joys of atheism and circle jerk each other about it when away from the group.
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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    you seem to argue against anything non-physical everytime i see you post in a thread like this - like the atheists you look up to you pull out the 'big words' such as ad hominem to seem educated lmfao
    I understand you are not sincerely trying to have a conversation about this topic. I hope you get the satisfaction you are looking for.


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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    Yes, as I stated.

    By definition, it is a lack of belief. It is not a belief. There is a difference.

    I accept you will not agree with that.
    Now that I think about it...its literally in the name.

    theism is a belief in a god.

    so Atheism is the lack/absence of belief in a god
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    Originally Posted by Maestro View Post
    I have not heard that. I've just heard that its most logical to assume there is no god (then they list off their reasons).

    Also, evolution is not synonymous with atheism. You can be religious and believe in evolution.
    It's the same flavor as what Ironmanlet said. As soon as someone who believes in God calls that person immoral, that person will switch to "nope, you're wrong. there is no God."

    If God is real, there are implications on the atheists' life. The "atheist" is happy to feign neutrality in the "it is not provable" position until the Christian's argument makes them reckon with their own sin.
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