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    If I lived in a country who wants to jail their citizens for making mean comments or telling them to leave their keys on their porch so criminals can easily break in I would focus on cleaning my own dirty laundry..not so much on telling folks how to clean theres...that's just me though. When you can actually vote here, then maybe we can assume your opinions are relevant. Until then, focus on being our hat.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    When Biden loses it's because he's a dementia patient who doesn't inspire people to vote for him. Trump would get crushed by any normal dem not named Kamila. But the dems are stupid and they don't blame inflation on Trump like they should nor do they tout the amazing economy we have.

    Dems are stupid. And Trump's base will vote for him no matter what so the dem candidate need to bring people out to vote. Biden did this in 2020, but he won't this year.

    To answer your question, life will go on and I think the country will keep churning along like we are now. We'll just have an embarrassment as POTUS, worse than we have now. But I'll continue to succeed and thrive. And Trump will positively impact the border. So that will be a very positive development.
    Who is a "normal" Democrat these days, aka a 90's Democrat like Bill Clinton who would be called a right-wing extremist fascist Hitler by today's standards for wanting a secure border and supporting gun rights while also not supporting child mutilation and pretending that men can be pregnant? Tulsi?
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    Here you go buddy....




    2010 was Obama's first full budget year and a record 113 months of positive job gains that continued until Trump mismanaged the Pandemic.


    Could you show me on that graph where Trump turned around the job market???]
    Lol. The same disproven charts and bleating the same "Obama (worst POTUS in American history before this current dementia patient) first budget year" nonsense over and over and over again.

    Don't you get embarrassed from being constantly bitchslapped and yet choosing to repeat it in a hopeless attempt they'll somehow become true?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    What do you want me to say? Trump had a year to get things under control. He left the country a disaster.
    Repeating the same lie over and over again... doesn't make it true
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Repeating the same lie over and over again... doesn't make it true
    These are the same people who want to pretend that people not going to work during the pandemic was somehow 100% Trump's fault while also pretending that skyrocketing inflation and gas prices in the US are somehow not Biden's fault (another disproven talking point considering it's been proven that Biden's disastrous policies are 100% responsible for both) "because it's happening everywhere!!!!"
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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    2010 was Obama's first full budget year and a record 113 months of positive job gains that continued until Trump mismanaged the Pandemic.

    While I'm here...

    {Graphs of Jobs in first FOUR MONTHS}
    Holy hell, so which is it - first it's the first budget year (starting 9+ months after taking office), then you flip-flop to fixating on the first FOUR MONTHS of an administration?

    And you give Biden sole credit for Covid recovery that started nine months before he took office? That's why you're a laughingstock. People returning to their jobs that were shut down by State Governors is claimed to be "jobs created by Biden"?

    Why are you fawning over Biden's 2.1 million "new" (not new) jobs in his first four months, yet silent on Trump's 10.3 million "new" (not new) jobs in the four months starting April 2020?

    Meanwhile, US non-farm employment (from your FRED source)...
    - Start of Trump administration..................................: 145.8 million
    - Pre-Covid peak, three years into Trump administration: 152.3 million - net gain of actual jobs: 6.5 million
    - Today, three years into Biden administration..............: 157.8 million - net gain of actual jobs: 5.5 million


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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Repeating the same lie over and over again... doesn't make it true

    Once they convince themselves, they could care less about what you or I believe. An echo chamber would best describe the world they live in.
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Repeating the same lie over and over again... doesn't make it true
    He didn’t leave a country with negative GDP, crippled supply chains, huge unemployment, businesses shuttered, largest 4 year addition to the debt, and blossoming inflation?

    What kind of drugs are you on boyo?
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    Originally Posted by nutsy54 View Post
    Holy hell, so which is it - first it's the first budget year (starting 9+ months after taking office), then you flip-flop to fixating on the first FOUR MONTHS of an administration?

    And you give Biden sole credit for Covid recovery that started nine months before he took office? That's why you're a laughingstock. People returning to their jobs that were shut down by State Governors is claimed to be "jobs created by Biden"?

    Why are you fawning over Biden's 2.1 million "new" (not new) jobs in his first four months, yet silent on Trump's 10.3 million "new" (not new) jobs in the four months starting April 2020?

    Meanwhile, US non-farm employment (from your FRED source)...
    - Start of Trump administration..................................: 145.8 million
    - Pre-Covid peak, three years into Trump administration: 152.3 million - net gain of actual jobs: 6.5 million
    - Today, three years into Biden administration..............: 157.8 million - net gain of actual jobs: 5.5 million


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    Trump took over a golden economy and screwed that up. Biden has recovered every job Trump lost AND created almost as many brand new ones? Factor in all the people who left the job market under Trump due to his miss management of Covid and his free monthly signed checks and Biden is bigly ahead.

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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    He didn’t leave a country with negative GDP, crippled supply chains, huge unemployment, businesses shuttered, largest 4 year addition to the debt, and blossoming inflation?

    What kind of drugs are you on boyo?
    same result for any country that decided to enact shutdowns.

    Trump controlled UK, Canada, and other western nations that pulled that bullchit?

    Would have been same result. The right move would have been to maybe shut down mass events like concerts and sporting events, but EVERYTHING else should have been business as usual after the first 2 weeks.
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    He didn’t leave a country with negative GDP, crippled supply chains, huge unemployment, businesses shuttered, largest 4 year addition to the debt, and blossoming inflation?

    What kind of drugs are you on boyo?
    Wow, you really like repeating the lies and deflections.

    GDP was negative for two quarters during Covid. Trump left the country with explosive GDP growth: +35% in Q3 2020, then stabilized +4.2% in Q4 2020 and +5.2% in Q1 2021.
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A191RL1Q225SBEA

    "Crippled supply chains"... due to Covid response from State Governors. Meanwhile, Trump delivered an effective Covid vaccine which allowed all that to turn around, while Biden campaigned AGAINST the vaccine, then took credit for the results

    "Huge unemployment" that was already roaring back with all the "new jobs" Ecto tries to give Biden credit for. As already pointed out above, 21.9 million jobs were lost due to Covid shutdowns, 13 million of them were regained before Trump left office - and that was before vaccines really kicked in.
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    Largest 4 year addition to the debt - yet you still refuse to blame Congress or Nancy Pelosi, and ignore that much of that debt was in response to a global pandemic
    Just as you're silent now with massively MORE debt from Pelosi and Biden.

    Trump took over a golden economy and screwed that up.
    Wow, you really never heard of the global pandemic called Covid-19 that kicked off in 2020? And as noted above, the economy was already roaring back during his last months in office.

    Biden has recovered every job Trump lost
    Already disproven. 13 million jobs were "recovered" before Trump left office. Still bizarre that you blame/credit US Presidents for the actions of State Governors.
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    Here you go buddy....




    2010 was Obama's first full budget year and a record 113 months of positive job gains that continued until Trump mismanaged the Pandemic.


    Could you show me on that graph where Trump turned around the job market???


    While I'm here...


    If Obama was actually responsible for the booming job growth then the blue wall wouldn't have crumbled. Instead
    voters from Wi, Pa, and Mi were hurt by democrat policies despite what MSM may have told you, decided to make a change. We would've seen the same results in 2020 but Biden got 'magic' support that didn't exist for Hillary. Reagan inherited Carter's recession...
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    And you give Biden sole credit for Covid recovery that started nine months before he took office? [/url]


    Isn't it funny how America needs to recover after every single Republican administration eh?
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    Originally Posted by SillieBazzillie View Post
    Trump in office, jobs gone. Biden in office, jobs needed again.

    What would you call that?

    Newsom shut California down, closed the schools down, turned dumb kids to even dumber kids who even now, don’t bother going back to school. He fired people who didn’t want the jab. Not Trump

    Thanks to Newsom, not Trump, we have these facts

    California lost a staggering 2.7 million jobs at the start of the coronavirus pandemic, losses brought on by Gov. Gavin Newsom's stay-at-home order, which forced many businesses to close.

    The highest-population state, California, now has the highest unemployment rate, at 5.3%
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    Unemployment was gaining when Obama took office. By his end, it was dropping. Obama improved a bad situation over his two terms.

    Trump had really low unemployment when he assumed office but at the end of his first term, the unemployment rate was woeful.

    Biden took over and dropped those unemployment numbers again.


    Whilst democrats are lucky in that they took over from a Republican president who screwed the economy, it's not just that Dems are better for the economy. Republicans are worse. They're not just bad for the economy. They're science denialists. They're bad for the human race.
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    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    Unemployment was gaining when Obama took office. By his end, it was dropping. Obama improved a bad situation over his two terms.

    Trump had really low unemployment when he assumed office but at the end of his first term, the unemployment rate was woeful. Trump's policies were a disaster for the environment though.

    Biden took over and dropped those unemployment numbers again.


    Whilst democrats are lucky in that they took over from a Republican president who screwed the economy, it's not just that Dems are better for the economy. Republicans are worse. They're not just bad for the economy. They're science denialists. They're bad for the human race.
    Agreed, but lettuce be real tea. Trump wasn't bad for the economy. Things were pretty good right before covid hit, even with his dumb trade war. Trump's policies were a disaster for the environment though.
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    Unemployment was gaining when Obama took office. By his end, it was dropping. Obama improved a bad situation over his two terms.

    Trump had really low unemployment when he assumed office but at the end of his first term, the unemployment rate was woeful.

    Biden took over and dropped those unemployment numbers again.


    Whilst democrats are lucky in that they took over from a Republican president who screwed the economy, it's not just that Dems are better for the economy. Republicans are worse. They're not just bad for the economy. They're science denialists. They're bad for the human race.
    You and sillie really are the dumbest fcuks on this planet. Between one of you letting underage trannies hang you and thee other kissing the feet of blm members feet it’s hard to tell who is dumber

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    Originally Posted by freeheeler View Post
    [b]You and sillie really are the dumbest fcuks on this planet. Between one of you letting underage trannies hang you and thee other kissing the feet of blm members feet it’s hard to tell who is dumber.

    I never said anything about underage trannies ever. Your weird obsession with paedophilic fan fiction bespeaks of major issues, on your behalf. Besides, this "everyone's a paedo" gag is lame and old.
    Back off, Warchild.

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    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    Republicans are worse. They're not just bad for the economy. They're science denialists. They're bad for the human race.
    Science denialists?

    How many genders are there? Can men get pregnant? Is there more than one correct answer for 2+2?

    Because there’s one political party in the US (where you don’t even live, thank God) who would answer those questions with several dozen, yes, and yes.

    You’re not allowed to whine about “science denial” when you support the political party (from afar, maybe concentrate on your own country) who believes in male “chest feeding” and that feelings overrule basic biology.

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    I never said anything about underage trannies ever. Your weird obsession with paedophilic fan fiction bespeaks of major issues, on your behalf. Besides, this "everyone's a paedo" gag is lame and old.
    Underage or not sure isn't stopping you from fantasizing about trannies. And "major issues'"? What would you call the following?



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    Isn't it funny how America needs to recover after every single Republican administration eh?
    Isn't it funny how the world needed to recover from a GLOBAL PANDEMIC?

    Again: How does Biden get credit for a recovery that started NINE MONTHS before he took office?

    As usual, you can't address any of the FACTS I provided, and you still can't answer when each administration started getting counted for "new" jobs in your ridiculous OP "chart". Somehow we're suppose to believe there were only 1.9 million new jobs created during three different Republican administrations, yet we can see 6.5 million added just during the Trump administration.

    But you'll gloss right over that...
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    Trump had really low unemployment when he assumed office but at the end of his first term, the unemployment rate was woeful.
    It's really cute that you solely fixate on Trump for the results of a global pandemic and actions of State Governors... and also ignore that employment started roaring back a full nine months before Biden took office
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    I never said anything about underage trannies ever. Your weird obsession with paedophilic fan fiction bespeaks of major issues, on your behalf. Besides, this "everyone's a paedo" gag is lame and old.
    So answer the questions?

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    Originally Posted by EctoCanuck View Post
    {More false "statistics" that cherry-pick and lie about anything to make Democrats look good}
    It's cute that you can't address any of your previous false claims that have been directly called out and disproven, so you just create another false claim with no explanation how those numbers were crafted.

    Somehow we're supposed to believe Biden "created" 14.6 million new jobs, but the country only has 2.3 million more jobs today compared to Dec 2019. Where did those other 12.3 million magic jobs come from, and why aren't people employed in them today?
    https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS12500000

    Even more fun, the only way to even pretend to give Biden credit for "creating" 14.6 million jobs is to claim that people returning to their laid-off job is "job creation". Oops, and even then you need to go back to June 2020 for the numbers to work. Well holy hell, Biden the magic time-traveller started "creating" jobs 8 months before he took office
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    Originally Posted by fitnessislife View Post
    Science denialists?

    How many genders are there? Can men get pregnant? Is there more than one correct answer for 2+2?

    Because there’s one political party in the US (where you don’t even live, thank God) who would answer those questions with several dozen, yes, and yes.

    You’re not allowed to whine about “science denial” when you support the political party (from afar, maybe concentrate on your own country) who believes in male “chest feeding” and that feelings overrule basic biology.



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    {More laughingstock claims with no basis where they actually came from}
    Posting more of the same baseless crap... is still baseless crap.

    In a previous copy-paste you claimed 14.6 million new jobs "created" by Biden (which has been disproven multiple times). Now your latest post claims only 240,000 in 2023? And there's an uncited anonymous "expectation" of job losses coming out of a pandemic?

    When did anyone ever expect only 5% from the S%P (which generally averages 10+% long term), and when the hell did it explode 25% as claimed? Calendar year 2023 saw the S&P go up 21%. (Funny how you never mentioned the same and better gains under Trump - just as you ignored when the S&P DROPPED 17% in 2022.

    Unemployment has been RISING for the past year, but 3.7% at the end of 2023 is claimed to be OK because yet another uncited source "expected" it to be 4.9%? Where do you come up with this crap?
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