96% of new jobs were created under Dem Presidents: 48.7 million to just 1.9 million!

[Mckay23]

With Trump, democrats attacked Trump's trade policies as job killers. However,
Biden's Trade deficit in 3 years nearly equaled the output of Trump's in 4 years:

Trade deficit in millions of US dollars

Trump: -792,395.9 -870,358.4 -845,759.2 -845,759.2 Biden: -1,071,053 -1,177,372 -1,063,449
https://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c0004.html

[nutsy54]

Unemployment has been INCREASING for more than a year... But Ecto's moronic copy-paste (Post #87) tries to claim that things are great, and Biden is awesome, because some anonymous buffoon "expected" it would be even worse


https://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutputServlet

[NitrogenWidget]

Interesting how people who don't even live in the US are completely consumed by US politics.

brah he gets a beaver pelt and gallon of maple syrup a week for posting here.
ease up.

[Phil9]

Republicans just historically haven't been very good at economic matters when in charge. Especially in the last 30 years. But somehow, the data is just lies and deceit.

[EctoCanuck]

Holy hell, so which is it - first it's the first budget year (starting 9+ months after taking office), then you flip-flop to fixating on the first FOUR MONTHS of an administration?

And you give Biden sole credit for Covid recovery that started nine months before he took office? That's why you're a laughingstock. People returning to their jobs that were shut down by State Governors is claimed to be "jobs created by Biden"?

Why are you fawning over Biden's 2.1 million "new" (not new) jobs in his first four months, yet silent on Trump's 10.3 million "new" (not new) jobs in the four months starting April 2020?

Meanwhile, US non-farm employment (from your FRED source)...
- Start of Trump administration..................................: 145.8 million
- Pre-Covid peak, three years into Trump administration: 152.3 million - net gain of actual jobs: 6.5 million
- Today, three years into Biden administration..............: 157.8 million - net gain of actual jobs: 5.5 million


https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PAYEMS

Wow, you really like repeating the lies and deflections.

GDP was negative for two quarters during Covid. Trump left the country with explosive GDP growth: +35% in Q3 2020, then stabilized +4.2% in Q4 2020 and +5.2% in Q1 2021.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A191RL1Q225SBEA

"Crippled supply chains"... due to Covid response from State Governors. Meanwhile, Trump delivered an effective Covid vaccine which allowed all that to turn around, while Biden campaigned AGAINST the vaccine, then took credit for the results

"Huge unemployment" that was already roaring back with all the "new jobs" Ecto tries to give Biden credit for. As already pointed out above, 21.9 million jobs were lost due to Covid shutdowns, 13 million of them were regained before Trump left office - and that was before vaccines really kicked in.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PAYEMS

Largest 4 year addition to the debt - yet you still refuse to blame Congress or Nancy Pelosi, and ignore that much of that debt was in response to a global pandemic
Just as you're silent now with massively MORE debt from Pelosi and Biden.


Wow, you really never heard of the global pandemic called Covid-19 that kicked off in 2020? And as noted above, the economy was already roaring back during his last months in office.


Already disproven. 13 million jobs were "recovered" before Trump left office. Still bizarre that you blame/credit US Presidents for the actions of State Governors.

Isn't it funny how the world needed to recover from a GLOBAL PANDEMIC?

Again: How does Biden get credit for a recovery that started NINE MONTHS before he took office?

As usual, you can't address any of the FACTS I provided, and you still can't answer when each administration started getting counted for "new" jobs in your ridiculous OP "chart". Somehow we're suppose to believe there were only 1.9 million new jobs created during three different Republican administrations, yet we can see 6.5 million added just during the Trump administration.

But you'll gloss right over that...

It's cute that you can't address any of your previous false claims that have been directly called out and disproven, so you just create another false claim with no explanation how those numbers were crafted.

Somehow we're supposed to believe Biden "created" 14.6 million new jobs, but the country only has 2.3 million more jobs today compared to Dec 2019. Where did those other 12.3 million magic jobs come from, and why aren't people employed in them today?
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS12500000

Even more fun, the only way to even pretend to give Biden credit for "creating" 14.6 million jobs is to claim that people returning to their laid-off job is "job creation". Oops, and even then you need to go back to June 2020 for the numbers to work. Well holy hell, Biden the magic time-traveller started "creating" jobs 8 months before he took office

Posting more of the same baseless crap... is still baseless crap.

In a previous copy-paste you claimed 14.6 million new jobs "created" by Biden (which has been disproven multiple times). Now your latest post claims only 240,000 in 2023? And there's an uncited anonymous "expectation" of job losses coming out of a pandemic?

When did anyone ever expect only 5% from the S%P (which generally averages 10+% long term), and when the hell did it explode 25% as claimed? Calendar year 2023 saw the S&P go up 21%. (Funny how you never mentioned the same and better gains under Trump - just as you ignored when the S&P DROPPED 17% in 2022.

Unemployment has been RISING for the past year, but 3.7% at the end of 2023 is claimed to be OK because yet another uncited source "expected" it to be 4.9%? Where do you come up with this crap?

Did you play sports growing up nutsy? I played every single sport growing up.

Every Coach told us the same thing. "Excuses Are For Losers!!!"


Now you "LOSERS" can continue with your "EXCUSES".

[Phil9]

Funny how Trumpy isn't responsible for any economic woes from the pandemic but Biden is solely responsible for the inflation and deficits that occurred as a result of pandemic-era spending and recovery. Probably why I can't take all these excuses seriously seeing how Donnie was just riding the waves of an already good economy when he came into office. And even then, the deficit increased every year despite his promise of wiping out the deficit and debt.

[uneducated]

Funny how Trumpy isn't responsible for any economic woes from the pandemic but Biden is solely responsible for the inflation and deficits that occurred as a result of pandemic-era spending and recovery. Probably why I can't take all these excuses seriously seeing how Donnie was just riding the waves of an already good economy when he came into office. And even then, the deficit increased every year despite his promise of wiping out the deficit and debt.

I don't get how everyone acts like Trump is a legitimate candidate after he tried to carry out a coup and continues to deny the election to this day. It's hilarious and amazing to see the doublethink from people on this.

[SillieBazzillie]

Funny how Trumpy isn't responsible for any economic woes from the pandemic but Biden is solely responsible for the inflation and deficits that occurred as a result of pandemic-era spending and recovery. Probably why I can't take all these excuses seriously seeing how Donnie was just riding the waves of an already good economy when he came into office. And even then, the deficit increased every year despite his promise of wiping out the deficit and debt.

And the cuck cultist will do exactly this with a straight face.

Trump had ZERO influence on 2020, one of America's worst years.

But Biden is 100% responsible for inflation that occurred as a direct result of the spending and crushed supply chains during Trump's term.

That's why these people are considered cultist and I'll remind them with every post.

Luckily it appears the rest of the country is waking up.

Trump's illegal election interference trial showing details of what a massive POS should be the final nail in the coffin of the orange turd.

[nutsy54]

Did you play sports growing up nutsy? I played every single sport growing up.

Every Coach told us the same thing. "Excuses Are For Losers!!!"


Now you "LOSERS" can continue with your "EXCUSES".

So, as usual, you can't address any of your disproven lies... I posted Facts, you continue to post Lies and ridiculous cherry-picked claims.

[6gorillion]

And the cuck cultist will do exactly this with a straight face.

Trump had ZERO influence on 2020, one of America's worst years.

But Biden is 100% responsible for inflation that occurred as a direct result of the spending and crushed supply chains during Trump's term.

That's why these people are considered cultist and I'll remind them with every post.

Luckily it appears the rest of the country is waking up.

Trump's illegal election interference trial showing details of what a massive POS should be the final nail in the coffin of the orange turd.

inflation is due to the lockdowns and covid 'aid' the retarded democrats like you wanted.

If all states were republican the country would have been wide open by the April 2020.

[uneducated]

inflation is due to the lockdowns and covid 'aid' the retarded democrats like you wanted.

If all states were republican the country would have been wide open by the April 2020.

Lmfao if only we had done this, enough boomers might have died that we wouldn't even have to consider the Republican party ever again...

[6gorillion]

Lmfao if only we had done this, enough boomers might have died that we wouldn't even have to consider the Republican party ever again...

oh noes... a couple more 80 year olds that were already on their death bed might have died.

But now we are stuck with inflation and a garbage economy forever. And you'll never be able to move out of your dad's basement. ALL TO SAVE GRANDMA!

Hope it was worth it

[uneducated]

oh noes... a couple more 80 year olds that were already on their death bed might have died.

But now we are stuck with inflation and a garbage economy forever. And you'll never be able to move out of your dad's basement. ALL TO SAVE GRANDMA!

Hope it was worth it

whoosh

[NitrogenWidget]

oh noes... a couple more 80 year olds that were already on their death bed might have died.

But now we are stuck with inflation and a garbage economy forever. And you'll never be able to move out of your dad's basement. ALL TO SAVE GRANDMA!

Hope it was worth it

what are you talking about?
he has no intentions of ever leaving home.
never did, never will.

worked out great for him and people like him.

[NYPat]

inflation is due to the lockdowns and covid 'aid' the retarded democrats like you wanted.

If all states were republican the country would have been wide open by the April 2020.

Trump stopped the Fed from raising rates and pumped more free money into the economy than Biden. Inflation is more on him than Biden. Oh.. and then there's the fact that the ENTIRE WORLD went through worse inflation than the US. But don't let those pesky facts stop you from raging about Biden and Dems... derp

[6gorillion]

Trump stopped the Fed from raising rates and pumped more free money into the economy than Biden. Inflation is more on him than Biden. Oh.. and then there's the fact that the ENTIRE WORLD went through worse inflation than the US. But don't let those pesky facts stop you from raging about Biden and Dems... derp

but but but Trump!!!!!!

[NYPat]

but but but Trump!!!!!!

but but but Democrats!!!!!

Do you even think before you post? Derp

[Mckay23]

And the cuck cultist will do exactly this with a straight face.

Trump had ZERO influence on 2020, one of America's worst years.

But Biden is 100% responsible for inflation that occurred as a direct result of the spending and crushed supply chains during Trump's term.

That's why these people are considered cultist and I'll remind them with every post.

Luckily it appears the rest of the country is waking up.

Trump's illegal election interference trial showing details of what a massive POS should be the final nail in the coffin of the orange turd.

Yes, the rest of the country is waking up:[img]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GK-bnZ1X...pg&name=medium[/img]

When asked which president did more to help people like them, roughly one-third say Donald Trump and about one-quarter say Joe Biden.
https://apnews.com/article/biden-tru...e7af8e302dbe27

[6gorillion]

but but but Democrats!!!!!

Do you even think before you post? Derp

Youre really trying to argue that it wasn't the democrats that kept begging for lockdowns and shutting down their states, necessitating the "covid aid" to be extended longer?

[nutsy54]

Trump stopped the Fed from raising rates and pumped more free money into the economy than Biden.

HOW did Trump magically control the Fed? Damn, why does it take so many lies to prop up Biden's failures, in a failed thread of lies that try to falsely claim non-existent Democrat/Biden "successes"?

If Trump was the only thing keeping Fed rates low... WHY DID BIDEN CONTINUE TO KEEP THEM LOW FOR HIS FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE? Or did you hope nobody would remember that fact? The obvious answer, of course, is that the US President doesn't control Fed rates. If you truly believe he does, then you'd be equally criticizing Biden's first 12 months in office.


https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/DFF

And then you blindly ignore the $TRILLIONS "pumped into the economy" under Biden & Pelosi? Why does it take so many lies to deflect from and prop up Biden's failures?

Anything to deflect from yet another thread of Ecto's endless lies and false claims

[goody1]

Trump stopped the Fed from raising rates and pumped more free money into the economy than Biden. Inflation is more on him than Biden. Oh.. and then there's the fact that the ENTIRE WORLD went through worse inflation than the US. But don't let those pesky facts stop you from raging about Biden and Dems... derp

So Trump controls the fed?

[goody1]

Did you play sports growing up nutsy? I played every single sport growing up.

Every Coach told us the same thing. "Excuses Are For Losers!!!"


Now you "LOSERS" can continue with your "EXCUSES".

So what was your excuse for not knowing the difference between debt and deficit?
Surely you didn’t make an excuse for that.

[nutsy54]

Reposting since Ecto clearly missed this before BB.com crashed...

And you give Biden sole credit for Covid recovery that started nine months before he took office? That's why you're a laughingstock. People returning to their jobs that were shut down by State Governors is claimed to be "jobs created by Biden"?

Why are you fawning over Biden's 2.1 million "new" (not new) jobs in his first four months, yet silent on Trump's 10.3 million "new" (not new) jobs in the four months starting April 2020?

Meanwhile, US non-farm employment (from your FRED source)...
- Start of Trump administration..................................: 145.8 million
- Pre-Covid peak, three years into Trump administration: 152.3 million - net gain of actual jobs: 6.5 million
- Today, three years into Biden administration..............: 157.8 million - net gain of actual jobs: 5.5 million

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/PAYEMS

[nutsy54]

So Trump controls the fed?

We're supposed to believe that Trump, and ONLY Trump controls the Fed.

[nutsy54]

Somehow we're supposed to believe Biden "created" 14.6 million new jobs, but the country only has 2.3 million more jobs today compared to Dec 2019. Where did those other 12.3 million magic jobs come from, and why aren't people employed in them today?
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS12500000

Still nothing, Ecto?

[NYPat]

So Trump controls the fed?

You gonna pretend Trump didn't threaten his job? LOL

President Donald Trump said Saturday he had the power to fire or demote Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell

“I have the right to do that or the right to remove him as chairman,” Trump said Saturday at a news conference

https://apnews.com/article/2a21e92ed...13495c9ef50050

We're supposed to believe that Trump, and ONLY Trump controls the Fed.

Nah, only Trump threatened to fire him.

It's almost like you guys are trying to re-write easily proven recent history..

[Dave22reborn]

Trump stopped the Fed from raising rates and pumped more free money into the economy than Biden. Inflation is more on him than Biden. Oh.. and then there's the fact that the ENTIRE WORLD went through worse inflation than the US. But don't let those pesky facts stop you from raging about Biden and Dems... derp

Riiiight Patty, I'm sure the lockdowns, which led to the greatest transfer of wealth in history, had no impact on the economy......

[nutsy54]

You gonna pretend Trump didn't threaten his job? LOL

Nah, only Trump threatened to fire him.

Oooh... so scared. Do you really think a Fed Chairman (who doesn't solely control anything when it comes to rate votes) cares? That he isn't already set for life?

Oh, and you forgot to read this part of your linked article:
"No Fed chairman has ever been removed by a president. The law creating the Fed says its officials and those of other independent agencies can be “removed for cause” by a president. While that issue has never arisen in regard to a Fed official, the courts ruled decades ago that “for cause” meant more than a policy disagreement."

It's almost like you guys are trying to re-write easily proven recent history..

The HISTORY is that "BIDEN" continued low rates for another YEAR. According to your failed "logic", that rates were only low due to Presidential pressure, then Biden also forced the Fed to keep rates low for another year... yet you have no criticism of Biden for that?
Oh, and same goes for low rates that "Obama" insisted on?

[SillieBazzillie]

Oooh... so scared. Do you really think a Fed Chairman (who doesn't solely control anything when it comes to rate votes) cares? That he isn't already set for life?

Oh, and you forgot to read this part of your linked article:
"No Fed chairman has ever been removed by a president. The law creating the Fed says its officials and those of other independent agencies can be “removed for cause” by a president. While that issue has never arisen in regard to a Fed official, the courts ruled decades ago that “for cause” meant more than a policy disagreement."


The HISTORY is that "BIDEN" continued low rates for another YEAR. According to your failed "logic", that rates were only low due to Presidential pressure, then Biden also forced the Fed to keep rates low for another year... yet you have no criticism of Biden for that?
Oh, and same goes for low rates that "Obama" insisted on?

Boyo, Biden was rescuing the country from the massive unemployment, negative GDP, covid-striken no plan for vax rollout left by your master. Once Biden fixe the chit show left by Trump and got things stabilized the rates began to rise.

And I don't recall Biden crying and crying like Trump did during rate hikes either.

Biden literally saved this country.

[NYPat]

Oooh... so scared. Do you really think a Fed Chairman (who doesn't solely control anything when it comes to rate votes) cares? That he isn't already set for life?

Oh, and you forgot to read this part of your linked article:
"No Fed chairman has ever been removed by a president. The law creating the Fed says its officials and those of other independent agencies can be “removed for cause” by a president. While that issue has never arisen in regard to a Fed official, the courts ruled decades ago that “for cause” meant more than a policy disagreement."

Cool story, he threatened his job out loud to the world, you think he couldn't find an excuse to do it? You think Trump cares what some court said decades ago? This is the same guy who fired Andrew McCabe hours before his retirement simply to be vindictive... you actually think Trump wouldn't fire someone for raises rates and making Trump pay more?..

Nutsy you used to be reasonable and present actual arguments.. now your nothing more than a wannabe Trump defender.

Oh and sillie absolutely wrecks you ever time you post a chart or graphic. You should probably reconsider your newfound love for attempting to defend Trump's actions.. especially regarding the pandemic.