Tables Turned on Davos: Elite 1% Makes More CO2 Than 66%, THEY are the problem

[chicagopizzaboy]

The assumption that it is the masses and middle class which must change the way they live is dead. Massive Oxfam study shows the world's richest 1% account for more carbon emissions than the poorest 66%. You are not the problem. THEY are. Policy would argue for wealth confiscation, abolish private jets.

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...66-report-says

‘Polluter elite’ are plundering the planet to point of destruction, says Oxfam after comprehensive study of climate inequality

The richest 1% of humanity is responsible for more carbon emissions than the poorest 66%, with dire consequences for vulnerable communities and global efforts to tackle the climate emergency, a report says.

The most comprehensive study of global climate inequality ever undertaken shows that this elite group, made up of 77 million people including billionaires, millionaires and those paid more than US$140,000 (£112,500) a year, accounted for 16% of all CO2 emissions in 2019 – enough to cause more than a million excess deaths due to heat, according to the report.

For the past six months, the Guardian has worked with Oxfam, the Stockholm Environment Institute and other experts on an exclusive basis to produce a special investigation, The Great Carbon Divide. It explores the causes and consequences of carbon inequality and the disproportionate impact of super-rich individuals, who have been termed “the polluter elite”. Climate justice will be high on the agenda of this month’s UN Cop28 climate summit in the United Arab Emirates.


The Oxfam report shows that while the wealthiest 1% tend to live climate-insulated, air-conditioned lives, their emissions – 5.9bn tonnes of CO2 in 2019 – are responsible for immense suffering.

Using a “mortality cost” formula – used by the US Environmental Protection Agency, among others – of 226 excess deaths worldwide for every million tonnes of carbon, the report calculates that the emissions from the 1% alone would be enough to cause the heat-related deaths of 1.3 million people over the coming decades.

Over the period from 1990 to 2019, the accumulated emissions of the 1% were equivalent to wiping out last year’s harvests of EU corn, US wheat, Bangladeshi rice and Chinese soya beans.

The suffering falls disproportionately upon people living in poverty, marginalised ethnic communities, migrants and women and girls, who live and work outside or in homes vulnerable to extreme weather, according to the research. These groups are less likely to have savings, insurance or social protection, which leaves them more economically, as well as physically, at risk from floods, drought, heatwaves and forest fires. The UN says developing countries account for 91% of deaths related to extreme weather.

The report finds that it would take about 1,500 years for someone in the bottom 99% to produce as much carbon as the richest billionaires do in a year.

“The super-rich are plundering and polluting the planet to the point of destruction and it is those who can least afford it who are paying the highest price,” said Chiara Liguori, Oxfam’s senior climate justice policy adviser. The twin crises of climate and inequality were “fuelling one another”, she said.

[TugOfPeace]

Nothing will be done to them though, will it

[JayJ350]

So the people going all around the world in jets and yachts all the time have a higher carbon footprint?

But but but they drive EV's!

[DuracellBunny]

"The richest 1% of humanity is responsible for more carbon emissions than the poorest 66%, with dire consequences for vulnerable communities and global efforts to tackle the climate emergency, a report says.

The most comprehensive study of global climate inequality ever undertaken shows that this elite group, made up of 77 million people including billionaires, millionaires and those paid more than US$140,000 (£112,500) a year, accounted for 16% of all CO2 emissions in 2019 – enough to cause more than a million excess deaths due to heat, according to the report."

This always make me laugh when people talk about the 1%. There are plenty of people on this forum making $140k+. They aren't part of some nefarious cabal and they don't own private jets.

[chicagopizzaboy]

"The richest 1% of humanity is responsible for more carbon emissions than the poorest 66%, with dire consequences for vulnerable communities and global efforts to tackle the climate emergency, a report says.

The most comprehensive study of global climate inequality ever undertaken shows that this elite group, made up of 77 million people including billionaires, millionaires and those paid more than US$140,000 (£112,500) a year, accounted for 16% of all CO2 emissions in 2019 – enough to cause more than a million excess deaths due to heat, according to the report."

This always make me laugh when people talk about the 1%. There are plenty of people on this forum making $140k+. They aren't part of some nefarious cabal and they don't own private jets.

The policy prescription is any action against "climate change" must include the abolition of private jets and ownership of multiple A/C-hogging mansions. Let's see how fast the elites drop this climate change bullchit.

[aal04]

The most comprehensive study of global climate inequality ever undertaken shows that this elite group, made up of 77 million people including billionaires, millionaires and those paid more than US$140,000 (£112,500) a year, accounted for 16% of all CO2 emissions in 2019 – enough to cause more than a million excess deaths due to heat, according to the report."
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doesnt sound right... they havent correlated heat=death=C02 yet. they just throw up that something is wrong, its heating/cooling/unpredictable and its probably us, so we should stop going outside.

[JayJ350]

The policy prescription is any action against "climate change" must include the abolition of private jets and ownership of multiple A/C-hogging mansions. Let's see how fast the elites drop this climate change bullchit.

We need to return to class warfare, phuck this race war bullchit. 99% unite!

[chicagopizzaboy]

We need to return to class warfare, phuck this race war bullchit. 99% unite!

It's already class warfare and has been for a long time. They just slow murdered millions of people with the vaxxes. So it is a real shooting war.

[uneducated]

When the worst poster you know makes a good post.

We need to return to class warfare, phuck this race war bullchit. 99% unite!

The policy prescription is any action against "climate change" must include the abolition of private jets and ownership of multiple A/C-hogging mansions. Let's see how fast the elites drop this climate change bullchit.

This is a fantastic idea.

[TugOfPeace]

This always make me laugh when people talk about the 1%. There are plenty of people on this forum making $140k+. They aren't part of some nefarious cabal and they don't own private jets.

A lot of people making that much live in cities and don't even own cars lmao. Including myself

[uneducated]

A lot of people making that much live in cities and don't even own cars lmao. Including myself

It's not really the 1% because of that 1%, it's like 0.01% that are using 99% of what that 1% uses.

[TugOfPeace]

It's not really the 1% because of that 1%, it's like 0.01% that are using 99% of what that 1% uses.

Yea that would make sense. Even if a pleb like me traveled a lot by air, I'd be sharing my ride with 100-200 other people so the carbon footprint for just myself would be relatively small compared to Klaus Schwab flying around with 3 other people on his private jet.

[frankdtank20]

"The richest 1% of humanity is responsible for more carbon emissions than the poorest 66%, with dire consequences for vulnerable communities and global efforts to tackle the climate emergency, a report says.

The most comprehensive study of global climate inequality ever undertaken shows that this elite group, made up of 77 million people including billionaires, millionaires and those paid more than US$140,000 (£112,500) a year, accounted for 16% of all CO2 emissions in 2019 – enough to cause more than a million excess deaths due to heat, according to the report."

This always make me laugh when people talk about the 1%. There are plenty of people on this forum making $140k+. They aren't part of some nefarious cabal and they don't own private jets.

Yeah $140K isn't a big deal in the US or Western Europe, but globally it is. I'd be interested what the top 0.1% of global wealth level is and what share of emissions they use up. I'd bet proportionately their lifestyles use up 10% of emissions, or 100x their representation. Countdown until the Davos crowd is defended by Lefties.

[uneducated]

Welcome to the team, comrades. Now wait until you realize the reason healthcare costs are so fuked, why your work week is so long, why the prison system is so messed up, why the education is so messed up, and why we seem perpetually engaged in war is also due to this 0.01%.

[Anachron]

Welcome to the team, comrades. Now wait until you realize the reason healthcare costs are so fuked, why your work week is so long, why the prison system is so messed up, why the education is so messed up, and why we seem perpetually engaged in war is also due to this 0.01%.

Some of us might already be educated, sorry it took until your thirties to actually realize this stuff.



However...

It's not really the 1% because of that 1%, it's like 0.01% that are using 99% of what that 1% uses.

It is funny to see wincel desperately trying to distance himself for being the target of the OP.

[uneducated]

Some of us might already be educated, sorry it took until your thirties to actually realize this stuff.

Key word: might.

XD

I think I realized this stuff right around when they implemented Obamacare and none of the horrible consequences the GOP funded economists and 1%ers promised came. Then the next woke revelation was when I actually bothered to look into Stalin's bodycount and the USSR's stats and tried to understand the Russian POV.

[DuracellBunny]

Yeah $140K isn't a big deal in the US or Western Europe, but globally it is. I'd be interested what the top 0.1% of global wealth level is and what share of emissions they use up. I'd bet proportionately their lifestyles use up 10% of emissions, or 100x their representation. Countdown until the Davos crowd is defended by Lefties.

There are 2.5-3k billionaires in the world, that's all.

77M in the 1%, but only a few thousand billioniares. This is why I laugh at complaints about the 1%. Most doctors, school principals, everybody on tv, in music or sport that you have ever heard of etc are all in the 1%

All of the politicians, journalists and pundits that complain about the 1% are in the 1%.

Do a bunch of powerful people try and organise things to benefit them? Of course they fking do, that's human nature. Whether capitalist, monarchy, oligarchy, theocracy, communist or whatever, those with power structure things to further that power.

But we aren't even talking about all billionaires, let alone all of the 1%. Do you really believe Kanye, Kyle Jenner, LeBron etc are stroking white cats and planning global domination?

Emissions, yeah they have a point. Huge boats that are rarely used, private jets, 10 homes each etc create a huge footprint, but that isn't what OP is getting at. OP just wants to rant about davos, WEF, the evil 1% etc.

[Anachron]

Key word: might.

XD

And the key message was that it took you a decade longer than it takes most educated people to realize this.

But it was nice to see you trying to distance yourself from the top 1%.

[jtaylor2010]

Obvious bait is obvious… I mean, it was clear enough even before the ridiculous “ , accounted for 16% of all CO2 emissions in 2019 – enough to cause more than a million excess deaths due to heat…. Just lmao.


It’s a clear attempt to get people to buy in just because it points the finger at the other side. The scare tactics were a blatant lie before, and they’re still a lie when they blame your “enemies” for “the problem”.


Not to mention, 140k is not that much these days. Even if people did try to use this as an angle to push back against the ultra rich they’d just push for more restrictions on the middle class.






But again, it’s still fear-mongering propaganda.

[chicagopizzaboy]

There are 2.5-3k billionaires in the world, that's all.

77M in the 1%, but only a few thousand billioniares. This is why I laugh at complaints about the 1%. Most doctors, school principals, everybody on tv, in music or sport that you have ever heard of etc are all in the 1%

All of the politicians, journalists and pundits that complain about the 1% are in the 1%.

Do a bunch of powerful people try and organise things to benefit them? Of course they fking do, that's human nature. Whether capitalist, monarchy, oligarchy, theocracy, communist or whatever, those with power structure things to further that power.

But we aren't even talking about all billionaires, let alone all of the 1%. Do you really believe Kanye, Kyle Jenner, LeBron etc are stroking white cats and planning global domination?

Emissions, yeah they have a point. Huge boats that are rarely used, private jets, 10 homes each etc create a huge footprint, but that isn't what OP is getting at. OP just wants to rant about davos, WEF, the evil 1% etc.

Idiotic. If .1% were even responsible for 30% of emissions, that would still be a big deal. What the study points out is the carbon from these people is not negligible, as widely assumed. There aren't many of them but they still manage to burn thousands or even millions of times more than the average person. Bill Gates alone in his 757 built for 300 passengers all day, 200 days a year, versus most of us making a transcontinental trip a couple times a year at most, taking up one seat. They should watch out when they are telling you you must live in a smart city and travel no more than 5 miles from your house.

OP just wants to rant about davos, WEF, the evil 1% etc.

Now you are just being a douche bag.

[uneducated]

It is funny to see wincel desperately trying to distance himself for being the target of the OP.

*Shrug* I live a fairly modest life.

[frankdtank20]

There are 2.5-3k billionaires in the world, that's all.

77M in the 1%, but only a few thousand billioniares. This is why I laugh at complaints about the 1%. Most doctors, school principals, everybody on tv, in music or sport that you have ever heard of etc are all in the 1%

All of the politicians, journalists and pundits that complain about the 1% are in the 1%.

Do a bunch of powerful people try and organise things to benefit them? Of course they fking do, that's human nature. Whether capitalist, monarchy, oligarchy, theocracy, communist or whatever, those with power structure things to further that power.

But we aren't even talking about all billionaires, let alone all of the 1%. Do you really believe Kanye, Kyle Jenner, LeBron etc are stroking white cats and planning global domination?

You're talking the global 1%. Most Americans are in the top 2% of income globally. Given that this was spearheaded by The Guardian I'm not surprised reports would highlight the middle class in the US and to a lesser extent in Europe. That way they keep their Left leaning cred without focusing in too hard on the elite they worship.
Though when reading an article like that I think it naturally (at least to me) begs the question of okay, how about the top 0.01%??? I'd bet the top 0.01% (actual elite) consume something like 6-7% of emissions.

And to shoot straight, I'm not concerned about carbon dioxide. There's plenty of other crap in emissions, especially in the developing world that's bad for all living things. The particulate matter in Chinese and Indian cities is pretty awful, there's mercury in coal emissions, etc.

[Anachron]

*Shrug* I live a fairly modest life.

Interesting how that seems to change according to the narrative you are following at the moment.

[DuracellBunny]

You're talking the global 1%. Most Americans are in the top 2% of income globally. Given that this was spearheaded by The Guardian I'm not surprised reports would highlight the middle class in the US and to a lesser extent in Europe. That way they keep their Left leaning cred without focusing in too hard on the elite they worship.
Though when reading an article like that I think it naturally (at least to me) begs the question of okay, how about the top 0.01%??? I'd bet the top 0.01% (actual elite) consume something like 6-7% of emissions.

And to shoot straight, I'm not concerned about carbon dioxide. There's plenty of other crap in emissions, especially in the developing world that's bad for all living things. The particulate matter in Chinese and Indian cities is pretty awful, there's mercury in coal emissions, etc.

In the developed world, it isn't even about wealth, but rather lifestyle. Check this out and look at the per capita on the right.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...int-by-country

The US has about 3x the per capita footprint of the UK. Kazakhstan, where the per capita income is $4k, has almost the same per capita footprint as the US.

On a macro level, it is a hell of a lot more nuanced than just wealth.

On the micro level, you have people like DiCaprio flying his friends halfway around the world on private jets to see him receive a climate award.

Excess is the issue, as opposed to wealth, although there is a large correlation between the two.

I, for instance, have a 23k sqft home (burn the witch!), but it is heavily insulated, and is heated and partially powered by solar/heat pumps. I rarely fly, I don't drive a huge amount, I buy food from local farms and grow some myself etc. I cook, instead of having everything delivered etc

Excessive lifestyles are the problem and will continue to be the problem, as that kind of behaviour is hard to change.

[uneducated]

[frankdtank20]

In the developed world, it isn't even about wealth, but rather lifestyle. Check this out and look at the per capita on the right.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/co...int-by-country

The US has about 3x the per capita footprint of the UK. Kazakhstan, where the per capita income is $4k, has almost the same per capita footprint as the US.

On a macro level, it is a hell of a lot more nuanced than just wealth.

On the micro level, you have people like DiCaprio flying his friends halfway around the world on private jets to see him receive a climate award.

Excess is the issue, as opposed to wealth, although there is a large correlation between the two.

I, for instance, have a 23k sqft home (burn the witch!), but it is heavily insulated, and is heated and partially powered by solar/heat pumps. I rarely fly, I don't drive a huge amount, I buy food from local farms and grow some myself etc. I cook, instead of having everything delivered etc

Excessive lifestyles are the problem and will continue to be the problem, as that kind of behaviour is hard to change.

Solid points. Reality: people do what's convenient. I don't even actually care about people using or owning private jets, have 7 homes of their own. God bless. Good for them. The hypocrisy is the main issue from a lot of those kunts, who want to tell everyone else how to live.

[uneducated]

Solid points. Reality: people do what's convenient. I don't even actually care about people using or owning private jets, have 7 homes of their own. God bless. Good for them. The hypocrisy is the main issue from a lot of those kunts, who want to tell everyone else how to live.

The problem is also HOW they live. It is selfish and should not be allowed.

[frankdtank20]

The problem is also HOW they live. It is selfish and should not be allowed.

If you made $50 million a year you'd fly on private jets. During the flights dunk Alaskan King Crab legs in butter that costs $100 a pound, made from cows halfway around the world, and be on your second bottle of Cristal by the time you landed.

[uneducated]

If you made $50 million a year you'd fly on private jets. During the flights dunk Alaskan King Crab legs in butter that costs $100 a pound, made from cows halfway around the world, and be on your second bottle of Cristal by the time you landed.

No. I would not. I am now technically a multimillionaire. I don't eat fancy food. I drive a 20 year old car. I live with my dad. I refuse to spend over $35 on a meal unless it is a special occasion, and I have never personally eaten any meal more expensive than $80. I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. I don't go on vacations or adventures. My only real luxury is a pretty decent PC. Even then, it was still under $3k. I donate a lot of money to charities and the rest is invested. I have absolutely zero intention of making my lifestyle more luxurious and excessive. I despise capitalism at its core and will never choose to live that way.

If I had that kind of money, I'd make big moves for educating people overseas and invest in poor communities. I wouldn't eat crab on some useless plane and drink poison.

[Anachron]

No. I would not. I am now technically a multimillionaire. I don't eat fancy food. I drive a 20 year old car. I live with my dad. I refuse to spend over $35 on a meal unless it is a special occasion, and I have never personally eaten any meal more expensive than $80. I don't drink, smoke, or do any drugs. I don't go on vacations or adventures. My only real luxury is a pretty decent PC. Even then, it was still under $3k. I donate a lot of money to charities and the rest is invested. I have absolutely zero intention of making my lifestyle more luxurious and excessive. I despise capitalism at its core and will never choose to live that way.

If I had that kind of money, I'd make big moves for educating people overseas and invest in poor communities. I wouldn't eat crab on some useless plane and drink poison.

Your lifestyle can be considered luxurious and excessive as well.

Most people in this world have to work, not leech off their dad well into their thirties.