First Do No Harm(except when it comes to transgendered people)

[Anachron]

What do you think it says that you have to make up stories upon which to base a character attack?

I still think the alleged crimes reported in the OP should be investigated. What do you think?

If what I am posting are "made up stories", and they're claims that you have made, how am I making them up? I am just repeating claims you made...

Still lulzy tho

[TheFornicator1]

What do you think it says that you have to make up stories upon which to base a character attack?

I still think the alleged crimes reported in the OP should be investigated. What do you think?

You quite literally admitted to what he is accusing you of. In fact, you are the author of the accusation. He is simply relaying your original admission.

The internet never forgets.

[J.L.C.]

You quite literally admitted to what he is accusing you of. In fact, you are the author of the accusation. He is simply relaying your original admission.

The internet never forgets.

Nope.

If true, the Internet's memory should have some proof of me claiming lots weren't trafficked and consent wasn't obtained, yeah?

[Anachron]

Nope.

If true, the Internet's memory should have some proof of me claiming lots weren't trafficked and consent wasn't obtained, yeah?

Oh yes, can you remind us how you recorded the lots on the dropdown menus that were on the physical syringes?

Still lulzy tho

[TheFornicator1]

Nope.

If true, the Internet's memory should have some proof of me claiming lots weren't trafficked and consent wasn't obtained, yeah?

I have a vivid memory of your admissions of voiding standard practice.

Hold on... Wait. They were employing any old bum to give injections at that time, so it probably was standard practice.

My bad.

[J.L.C.]

I have a vivid memory of your admissions of voiding standard practice.

Hold on... Wait. They were employing any old bum to give injections at that time, so it probably was standard practice.

My bad.

So the Internet doesn't have a memory to support the accusations?

Shocking

[Dave22reborn]

Let's see...

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, why do you have to look up his old posts????

[TheFornicator1]

So the Internet doesn't have a memory to support the accusations?

Shocking

Oh, it does. So do the individuals that use it.

However, I won't waste my time using a broken search engine easily manipulated by users in order to show the receipt.

Anybody with a valid memory span remembers you falling on your own sword.

[Anachron]

So the Internet doesn't have a memory to support the accusations?

Shocking

Don't confuse people not caring enough to look through your post history and the "internet not having memory".

Maybe you could look your posts up yourself to clear said "accusations", which are nothing more than repeating your own claims.

Still lulzy tho

[Anachron]

Oh, it does. So do the individuals that use it.

However, I won't waste my time using a broken search engine easily manipulated by users in order to show the receipt.

Anybody with a valid memory span remembers you falling on your own sword.

Or waste your time looking through the post history of a user whose modus operandi is to be as vague as possible in order to be able to move the goal post later.

Still lulzy tho

[J.L.C.]

Oh, it does. So do the individuals that use it.

However, I won't waste my time using a broken search engine easily manipulated by users in order to show the receipt.

Anybody with a valid memory span remembers you falling on your own sword.

Yeah.

Still, if the accusations in OP are true. I hope we see an investigation and charges. You?

[Anachron]

Yeah.

Still, if the actuations in OP are true. I hope we see an investigation and charges. You?

"Actuations"?

Still lulzy tho

[J.L.C.]

Don't confuse people not caring enough to look through your post history and the "internet not having memory".

Maybe you could look your posts up yourself to clear said "accusations", which are nothing more than repeating your own claims.

Still lulzy tho

Requiring me to prove a negative doesn't seem to be in good faith.

But, that's kinda how guilty by accusation works, yeah?

What do you think about the OP. Do you think there should be an investigation into treatment without consent?

[miscinbro]

If you don't discuss it, it's like it's not even happening. Ignorance is bliss......

Kind of a couple more important things going on. But that’s what both the left and right want from people like you - keep you busy with emotionally charged stuff that doesn’t matter while they steal the world.

[jtaylor2010]

Kind of a couple more important things going on. But that’s what both the left and right want from people like you - keep you busy with emotionally charged stuff that doesn’t matter while they steal the world.

Just to make sure I’m reading this post correctly….are you saying it doesn’t matter if there are doctors giving children hormones and mutilating their genitalia???



They are able to steal the world precisely due to people with the type of attitude you express in that post. The cult of the left has grown to such numbers that they can get away with almost anything. I mean…we’re at the point where the assistant health secretary said access to harmful gender procedures for kids and teens is one of the most important health issues in this country. These people literally say out loud that the goal is to basically obliterate the fabric of society. They control most of the traditional media. They control most the social media companies. They have infiltrated unelected(and elected) seats of power all over the country. They control many of the corporations. They control the colleges. They control the schools. And that ultimately means they control the kids. And we can all look around and see the results.


What people like you and bodhy don’t get, or at least won’t admit….is that protecting innocent kids is only part of it. Another aspect is to finally draw a line where the insanity will stop. Because, for 50+ years it has only gotten worse and worse as people on the left will just accept anything and push it forward. Again, it is absolutely insane that we are even debating whether or not we should allow doctors to give kids hormones and mutilate their genitals…yet here we are. We can’t start any type of movement back towards a semblance of reasonable normalcy until everyone can find something that we all agree is too much. In other words, the left has to finally say “no, that’s the line right there that we won’t cross”. It seems that our best bet for making that happen at the moment is to all agree we should NOT be giving children hormones and mutilating their genitals. And yes there will always be those on the fringe who agree to all sorts of crazy sh!t, but when it is actual MEDICAL GUIDANCE in our country then that is a HUGE problem. And that’s true even if you think it doesn’t matter.

[J.L.C.]

Just to make sure I’m reading this post correctly….are you saying it doesn’t matter if there are doctors giving children hormones and mutilating their genitalia???



They are able to steal the world precisely due to people with the type of attitude you express in that post. The cult of the left has grown to such numbers that they can get away with almost anything. I mean…we’re at the point where the assistant health secretary said access to harmful gender procedures for kids and teens is one of the most important health issues in this country. These people literally say out loud that the goal is to basically obliterate the fabric of society. They control most of the traditional media. They control most the social media companies. They have infiltrated unelected(and elected) seats of power all over the country. They control many of the corporations. They control the colleges. They control the schools. And that ultimately means they control the kids. And we can all look around and see the results.


What people like you and bodhy don’t get, or at least won’t admit….is that protecting innocent kids is only part of it. Another aspect is to finally draw a line where the insanity will stop. Because, for 50+ years it has only gotten worse and worse as people on the left will just accept anything and push it forward. Again, it is absolutely insane that we are even debating whether or not we should allow doctors to give kids hormones and mutilate their genitals…yet here we are. We can’t start any type of movement back towards a semblance of reasonable normalcy until everyone can find something that we all agree is too much. In other words, the left has to finally say “no, that’s the line right there that we won’t cross”. It seems that our best bet for making that happen at the moment is to all agree we should NOT be giving children hormones and mutilating their genitals. And yes there will always be those on the fringe who agree to all sorts of crazy sh!t, but when it is actual MEDICAL GUIDANCE in our country then that is a HUGE problem. And that’s true even if you think it doesn’t matter.

You position this as though doctors are carrying out a personal or collective ("they") agenda. When you said professionals are winging it without consent, was that to mean no consent in the sense that children can't legally consent without a parent/guardian, or to mean that doctors are providing these treatments against children's will?

How many of the fewer than 100 children you cite in this thread had surgery?

Here, surgery isn't an option until very late in care and almost never for anyone under age 18 and that's only mastectomy. Genital surgeries are restricted to over 18.

[Dave22reborn]

Kind of a couple more important things going on. But that’s what both the left and right want from people like you - keep you busy with emotionally charged stuff that doesn’t matter while they steal the world.

What makes you think that this **** doesn't matter???

What else doesn't matter?

The open border?

[Dave22reborn]

You position this as though doctors are carrying out a personal or collective ("they") agenda. When you said professionals are winging it without consent, was that to mean no consent in the sense that children can't legally consent without a parent/guardian, or to mean that doctors are providing these treatments against children's will?

How many of the fewer than 100 children you cite in this thread had surgery?

Here, surgery isn't an option until very late in care and almost never for anyone under age 18 and that's only mastectomy. Genital surgeries are restricted to over 18.

Riiiight, not like giving a child puberty blockers won't permanently **** them up or anything.

Hell, look at the reaction of big pharma, because women are pointing out the dangers of birth control pills. Pretty much saying it's "safe and effective," and those talking about the dangers are spreading good old, misinformation.....

[J.L.C.]

Riiiight, not like giving a child puberty blockers won't permanently **** them up or anything.

Hell, look at the reaction of big pharma, because women are pointing out the dangers of birth control pills. Pretty much saying it's "safe and effective," and those talking about the dangers are spreading good old, misinformation.....

Here, there's no pharmaceutical intervention before puberty. At/after puberty people have to have been in care for a while and risks are managed with duration of treatment.

Birth control (estrogen-containing contraceptives) has always come with risks, especially clotting.

[Anachron]

Here, there's no pharmaceutical interventions before puberty. At/after puberty people have to have been in care for a while and risks are managed with duration of treatment.

Birth control (estrogen-containing contraceptives) has always come with risks, especially clotting.

Showing off the questionable quality of the beaverland educational system?

Still lulzy tho

[Dave22reborn]

Here, there's no pharmaceutical intervention before puberty. At/after puberty people have to have been in care for a while and risks are managed with duration of treatment.

Birth control (estrogen-containing contraceptives) has always come with risks, especially clotting.

We are talking about nine year olds getting on puberty blockers, and all they need is the consent of a parent.....

[miscinbro]

What makes you think that this **** doesn't matter???

What else doesn't matter?

The open border?

Me: “let’s talk about stuff that matters”

You: “Something that actually matters - you must think it doesn’t matter too.”

It’s comical with you. No - what an adult does with there body or who they love is none of your business and it doesn’t matter. The open border does. Taking on China and Russia matters. Making stuff in America again matters. Houses people can afford matter. Inflation matters. Our failing infrastructure matters.

But NOOOOOOOOO… let’s talk endlessly about THE TRANS!!!!!!!!! Won’t someone think of the children!!!

[jtaylor2010]

Me: “let’s talk about stuff that matters”

You: “Something that actually matters - you must think it doesn’t matter too.”

It’s comical with you. No - what an adult does with there body or who they love is none of your business and it doesn’t matter. The open border does. Taking on China and Russia matters. Making stuff in America again matters. Houses people can afford matter. Inflation matters. Our failing infrastructure matters.

But NOOOOOOOOO… let’s talk endlessly about THE TRANS!!!!!!!!! Won’t someone think of the children!!!

Actually:


You - “ keep you busy with emotionally charged stuff that doesn’t matter …”

[jtaylor2010]

The files provide clear evidence that doctors and therapists are aware they are offering minors life-changing treatments they cannot fully understand. WPATH members know that puberty blockers, hormones, and surgeries will cause infertility and other complications, including cancer and pelvic floor dysfunction. Yet they consider life-altering medical interventions for young patients, including vaginoplasty for a 14-year-old and hormones for a developmentally delayed 13-year-old.

The WPATH Files also show how far medical experiments in gender medicine have gone, with discussions about surgeons performing “nullification” and other extreme body modification procedures to create body types that do not exist in nature.

A growing number of medical and psychiatric professionals say the promotion of pseudoscientific surgical and hormonal experiments is a global medical scandal that compares to major incidents of medical malpractice in history, such as lobotomies and ovariotomies.







Resident beavercel troll….”hurr durr they aren’t giving them hormones before puberty.”

[miscinbro]

Just to make sure I’m reading this post correctly….are you saying it doesn’t matter if there are doctors giving children hormones and mutilating their genitalia???



They are able to steal the world precisely due to people with the type of attitude you express in that post. The cult of the left has grown to such numbers that they can get away with almost anything. I mean…we’re at the point where the assistant health secretary said access to harmful gender procedures for kids and teens is one of the most important health issues in this country. These people literally say out loud that the goal is to basically obliterate the fabric of society. They control most of the traditional media. They control most the social media companies. They have infiltrated unelected(and elected) seats of power all over the country. They control many of the corporations. They control the colleges. They control the schools. And that ultimately means they control the kids. And we can all look around and see the results.


What people like you and bodhy don’t get, or at least won’t admit….is that protecting innocent kids is only part of it. Another aspect is to finally draw a line where the insanity will stop. Because, for 50+ years it has only gotten worse and worse as people on the left will just accept anything and push it forward. Again, it is absolutely insane that we are even debating whether or not we should allow doctors to give kids hormones and mutilate their genitals…yet here we are. We can’t start any type of movement back towards a semblance of reasonable normalcy until everyone can find something that we all agree is too much. In other words, the left has to finally say “no, that’s the line right there that we won’t cross”. It seems that our best bet for making that happen at the moment is to all agree we should NOT be giving children hormones and mutilating their genitals. And yes there will always be those on the fringe who agree to all sorts of crazy sh!t, but when it is actual MEDICAL GUIDANCE in our country then that is a HUGE problem. And that’s true even if you think it doesn’t matter.

I didn’t read your post. And my point wasn’t about your post per se.

[Dave22reborn]

Me: “let’s talk about stuff that matters”

You: “Something that actually matters - you must think it doesn’t matter too.”

It’s comical with you. No - what an adult does with there body or who they love is none of your business and it doesn’t matter. The open border does. Taking on China and Russia matters. Making stuff in America again matters. Houses people can afford matter. Inflation matters. Our failing infrastructure matters.

But NOOOOOOOOO… let’s talk endlessly about THE TRANS!!!!!!!!! Won’t someone think of the children!!!

It's actually an important issue, and the rest are also important issues.

[J.L.C.]

Resident beavercel troll….”hurr durr they aren’t giving them hormones before puberty.”

I said "here".

I also said there should be an investigation. Do you disagree?

[Bodhy]

To be fair, if the claims by the OP are true (untrained/unqualified people administering care/treatment without consent), it's a serious situation that should be investigated. Imo, those responsible should face professional and/or legal consequences.

Of course, but this would apply to any sort of medical treatment or procedure. It's just a direct violation of the Hippocratic oath. There's nothing unique to the LGBT community which problematises this.


Looks like the right are just trying to connect the LGBT community to having this intrinsic propensity to being a moral degenerate and/or paedophile.

[Bodhy]

Sounds like you're projecting to me......

"I know you are, but what am I?" is a rebuttal the rest of us left behind in kindergarten.

[Anachron]

"I know you are, but what am I?" is a rebuttal the rest of us left behind in kindergarten.

Except, you literally just did that.