Reply
Results 1 to 16 of 16
  1. #1
    1012 ng/dl TugOfPeace's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2013
    Posts: 5,000
    Rep Power: 160421
    TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    TugOfPeace is offline

    Can you buy an investment property with 5% down?

    Was shopping around for a single family home in Texas and wasn't aware that investment properties require 25% down.

    I mentioned to the agent that I might live there for a year to which he replied that he could do a primary home mortgage (lower interest rate + 5% down), but what happens if I do that then change my mind and just rent it out? Isn't that mortgage fraud?
    Monster0ultra self proclaimed "Chad" face pic looks like vtech school shooter: https://i.imgur.com/z2m6Why.jpg
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    GOAT miscer Zelensky's Avatar
    Join Date: Dec 2022
    Posts: 6,294
    Rep Power: 121157
    Zelensky has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Zelensky has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Zelensky has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Zelensky has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Zelensky has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Zelensky has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Zelensky has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Zelensky has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Zelensky has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Zelensky has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Zelensky has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Zelensky is offline
    Yes, that would be mortgage fraud. But plenty of people do it (srs)
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    Registered User Anachron's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2015
    Posts: 12,685
    Rep Power: 672408
    Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Anachron is offline
    Why would you want to buy an investment property with 5% down?

    The ideal way is to buy them 0% down.

    srs

    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    Registered User OliverHeldens's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2014
    Age: 31
    Posts: 20,050
    Rep Power: 92454
    OliverHeldens has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) OliverHeldens has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) OliverHeldens has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) OliverHeldens has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) OliverHeldens has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) OliverHeldens has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) OliverHeldens has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) OliverHeldens has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) OliverHeldens has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) OliverHeldens has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000) OliverHeldens has a brilliant future. Third best rank! (+40000)
    OliverHeldens is online now
    Maybe if they do seller financing.
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    Childish Goblino Godfrd824's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2008
    Location: Falls Church, Virginia, United States
    Posts: 35,106
    Rep Power: 260541
    Godfrd824 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Godfrd824 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Godfrd824 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Godfrd824 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Godfrd824 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Godfrd824 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Godfrd824 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Godfrd824 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Godfrd824 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Godfrd824 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Godfrd824 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Godfrd824 is offline
    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    Why would you want to buy an investment property with 5% down?

    The ideal way is to buy them 0% down.

    srs

    This.
    When it comes your time to die, be not like those whose hearts are filled with the fear of death, so that when their time comes they weep and pray for a little more time to live their lives over again in a different way. Sing your death song and die like a hero going home.
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    Registered User friesbruh's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2017
    Location: Ohio, United States
    Age: 38
    Posts: 8,843
    Rep Power: 157012
    friesbruh has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) friesbruh has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) friesbruh has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) friesbruh has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) friesbruh has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) friesbruh has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) friesbruh has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) friesbruh has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) friesbruh has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) friesbruh has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) friesbruh has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    friesbruh is offline
    would be negative cashflow asf.
    Bills crew / Bud Light crew / extra onion crew / M&P crew / lcp2 crew / ap3 crew / Trump crew / mcdonalds app crew / cat-owner crew / Tin Cup crew / self-checkout crew / country music crew / RIP snails crew
    Reply With Quote

  7. #7
    Biggest loads in the NW IlChosenOne's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2015
    Location: Idaho, United States
    Posts: 12,625
    Rep Power: 247319
    IlChosenOne has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) IlChosenOne has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) IlChosenOne has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) IlChosenOne has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) IlChosenOne has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) IlChosenOne has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) IlChosenOne has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) IlChosenOne has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) IlChosenOne has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) IlChosenOne has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) IlChosenOne has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    IlChosenOne is offline
    Yeah if you live in it for two years first
    * Rawdog crew * Creampie crew * Poverty crew *

    Haven't worn a condom since middle school crew

    * HTC crew *
    Reply With Quote

  8. #8
    Zealot from the housetops PaulJerome's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2011
    Posts: 1,561
    Rep Power: 39822
    PaulJerome has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PaulJerome has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PaulJerome has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PaulJerome has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PaulJerome has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PaulJerome has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PaulJerome has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PaulJerome has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PaulJerome has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PaulJerome has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PaulJerome has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    PaulJerome is offline
    Originally Posted by TugOfPeace View Post
    Was shopping around for a single family home in Texas and wasn't aware that investment properties require 25% down.

    I mentioned to the agent that I might live there for a year to which he replied that he could do a primary home mortgage (lower interest rate + 5% down), but what happens if I do that then change my mind and just rent it out? Isn't that mortgage fraud?
    It's an FHA 203b your realtor suggested. That would work, but you have to live there for a year and then can rent it out. Also, as Oliver said, you could do owner financing.

    A lot of people have very low first mortgage rates, so you will see assumptions moving forward. One option would be buy the property for the mortgage amount and have the seller hold a 2nd mortgage for the seller's profit, put the property in a land trust and have the beneficial ownership signed over to you. The mortgage servicer allows you to put a property in a trust without triggering the due-on-sale clause and you as the new owner is not public record.
    6'5" 210 lbs, 10.9% body fat

    Bodily exercise profits a little, but godliness is profitable unto all things.

    Willing to create a thread "Is Paul Jerome a Larp" if anyone with a username 5 years or older accuses me of fraud. Any takers?
    Reply With Quote

  9. #9
    Registered User JackyChin's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2023
    Age: 54
    Posts: 727
    Rep Power: 4717
    JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    JackyChin is offline
    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    Why would you want to buy an investment property with 5% down?

    The ideal way is to buy them 0% down.

    srs

    How do you do that? (Other than a VA loan, which is only for owner occupied housing)
    Reply With Quote

  10. #10
    Registered User Anachron's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2015
    Posts: 12,685
    Rep Power: 672408
    Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Anachron is offline
    Originally Posted by JackyChin View Post
    How do you do that? (Other than a VA loan, which is only for owner occupied housing)
    Most common would be a second charge secured against the same property.

    Reply With Quote

  11. #11
    Registered User JackyChin's Avatar
    Join Date: Nov 2023
    Age: 54
    Posts: 727
    Rep Power: 4717
    JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) JackyChin is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    JackyChin is offline
    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    Most common would be a second charge secured against the same property.

    How do you accomplish this in practice?

    It seems like you'd have to buy the property, then convince the second mortgage holder it's worth more than you just paid a week ago.

    Or pay a super high interest rate since the second mortgage holder knows they'll be left holding the bag if anything goes wrong.
    Reply With Quote

  12. #12
    Registered User Anachron's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2015
    Posts: 12,685
    Rep Power: 672408
    Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Anachron is offline
    Originally Posted by JackyChin View Post
    How do you accomplish this in practice?

    It seems like you'd have to buy the property, then convince the second mortgage holder it's worth more than you just paid a week ago.

    Or pay a super high interest rate since the second mortgage holder knows they'll be left holding the bag if anything goes wrong.
    You set up the second charge prior to finalizing the purchase, not afterwards - although in theory you could do it anytime between signing and closing date ( but you need to be able to close with cash down ).

    Not super high interest rates either.

    It helps to know lenders on a first name basis.

    The property does have to appraise higher than what the purchase price is - but why would you purchase an investment property that isn't a good deal?

    Reply With Quote

  13. #13
    1012 ng/dl TugOfPeace's Avatar
    Join Date: Oct 2013
    Posts: 5,000
    Rep Power: 160421
    TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) TugOfPeace has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    TugOfPeace is offline
    Originally Posted by PaulJerome View Post
    It's an FHA 203b your realtor suggested. That would work, but you have to live there for a year and then can rent it out. Also, as Oliver said, you could do owner financing.

    A lot of people have very low first mortgage rates, so you will see assumptions moving forward. One option would be buy the property for the mortgage amount and have the seller hold a 2nd mortgage for the seller's profit, put the property in a land trust and have the beneficial ownership signed over to you. The mortgage servicer allows you to put a property in a trust without triggering the due-on-sale clause and you as the new owner is not public record.
    Beyond FHA 203B I don't really know if it matters, this is a new construction home. I'm anticipating it's property value to rise once the neighborhood has completed it's construction.
    Monster0ultra self proclaimed "Chad" face pic looks like vtech school shooter: https://i.imgur.com/z2m6Why.jpg
    Reply With Quote

  14. #14
    Registered User PShift5's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2022
    Age: 54
    Posts: 1,934
    Rep Power: 27795
    PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    PShift5 is offline
    I know of someone doing mortgage fraud and I applaud it. Fuk those Jew bank rules. Do what's best for you. It's not morally wrong and you aren't hurting anyone. Again , **** those Jew bank rules and do it
    Reply With Quote

  15. #15
    Registered User Anachron's Avatar
    Join Date: Aug 2015
    Posts: 12,685
    Rep Power: 672408
    Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) Anachron has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    Anachron is offline
    Originally Posted by PShift5 View Post
    I know of someone doing mortgage fraud and I applaud it. Fuk those Jew bank rules. Do what's best for you. It's not morally wrong and you aren't hurting anyone. Again , **** those Jew bank rules and do it
    I am under the impression that it's a felony if you get caught...

    Reply With Quote

  16. #16
    Registered User PShift5's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2022
    Age: 54
    Posts: 1,934
    Rep Power: 27795
    PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000) PShift5 has much to be proud of. One of the best! (+20000)
    PShift5 is offline

    Smile

    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    I am under the impression that it's a felony if you get caught...

    Don't get caught

    Reply With Quote

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts