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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Inb4 JUSA "warns" you.
    Like I said, focus on yourself. I'm not tied down, upset or trying to goad you wrapped up about the past. You clearly are. Why give someone something they do not give in return? In this instance, why give me your hate? I'm not particularly worried about you or bothered by you, whatever beef is going on is one-sided.

    Originally Posted by miscinbro View Post
    I go back and forth on thinking he’s a reasonable guy in an unreasonable place or if he just gets off thinking he’s better than everyone.
    I don't really think about it at all. The least of which, I don't know. I don't know any of you people. I see this tiny little sliver of any of you, something I can not imagine is overly definitive of who any of you are. I'm also quite content, just in general. I have no interest in being superior or above anyone, might be why I gravitate more towards politically being more about liberty, when we're talking about that stuff and not childish goofy bullchit like this thread. Which, I can do. My preference tends to be here to talk, learn and have a civil discussion, but that only happens so often. Maybe a little more with our boy z4 sitting out for the time being, at least I don't have to worry about any threads being z-crapped for the time being.

    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    I don't. I know what he's really like and when he's pretending.
    I can be both, you know. I can be the guy who rolls in the mud, but I don't like that and especially when it goes too far. I'd rather be more decent.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    The irony of this post.. a post missing PROOF for his claims while accusing me of being nonfactual.

    This is what it's like "engaging" with the right on this forum.
    Ah yes, the irony deflection

    Why not just act like an adult and take accountability for your childish and toxic behavior here?
    Worst jew in the world.
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    How is this thread 12 pages????
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    Like I said, focus on yourself.
    Tells me to focus on myself as he tells me what to do...

    Just stop.




    Originally Posted by ClivesTriceps View Post
    Ah yes, the irony deflection

    Why not just act like an adult and take accountability for your childish and toxic behavior here?
    Since the random bans started I've not insulted a single person. How bout you?.. Take JUSA's hypocritical advice and worry about yourself.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Funny Dave, I didn't see you telling right wing posters to calm down when they bitched nonstop about Iceman..
    I don't know who the new mod is thwts banning people left and right.

    I'm also getting into it with numerous right wing posters, who are ranting about Jews. I don't see a single leftist doing it, perhaps because they agree with them?
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    Wow, this is still going strong?

    The misc is srs business.

    Srs.

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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    I don't know who the new mod is thwts banning people left and right.

    I'm also getting into it with numerous right wing posters, who are ranting about Jews. I don't see a single leftist doing it, perhaps because they agree with them?
    Honestly I haven't seen you defending Jews, I've seen some others but honestly I have no reason not to believe you. But I'll tell you straight up I'm sick of it and the black hate.

    Btw.. has anyone found out who the mod is? Or do we have a new unannounced mod in the shadows that visits the R&P but not the main misc every day?.... hmm
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Honestly I haven't seen you defending Jews, I've seen some others but honestly I have no reason not to believe you. But I'll tell you straight up I'm sick of it and the black hate.

    Btw.. has anyone found out who the mod is? Or do we have a new unannounced mod in the shadows that visits the R&P but not the main misc every day?.... hmm
    Just LOL @ being this unaware.

    It is clear as day, but I won't spell it out...

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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    Just LOL @ being this unaware.

    It is clear as day, but I won't spell it out...

    Haven't seen memcop in forever. But please, enlighten us all.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Haven't seen memcop in forever. But please, enlighten us all.
    Hint : It's not who you think it is.
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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    Hint : It's not who you think it is.
    Dude seriously why are you like this? Just spit it out or admit you don't know.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    Tells me to focus on myself as he tells me what to do...

    Just stop.
    Sorry, it's called, "advice" it's something someone gives to another, in this case learned wisdom and a lesson you would do well to take to heart. In this instance, I saw a flaw in your mindset, this need for you to belong in a group and define yourself as such. I think you would do better to branch out, on your own, and start being your own man and not just someone whose thoughts and ideas were held hostage by the group you placed yourself in. Especially with a group that has z4 in it's ranks, no thank you.
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    I don't really think about it at all. The least of which, I don't know. I don't know any of you people. I see this tiny little sliver of any of you, something I can not imagine is overly definitive of who any of you are. I'm also quite content, just in general. I have no interest in being superior or above anyone, might be why I gravitate more towards politically being more about liberty, when we're talking about that stuff and not childish goofy bullchit like this thread. Which, I can do. My preference tends to be here to talk, learn and have a civil discussion, but that only happens so often. Maybe a little more with our boy z4 sitting out for the time being, at least I don't have to worry about any threads being z-crapped for the time being.
    This would be the healthy approach, but as you rightly say, I don’t know you. I do know this place attracted a lot of unhealthy people - so you know - I keep my opinions fluid (at least with most posters).
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    I don't know who the new mod is thwts banning people left and right.

    I'm also getting into it with numerous right wing posters, who are ranting about Jews. I don't see a single leftist doing it, perhaps because they agree with them?
    You should see the negs I get and the name they called me because of my support for the great state of Israel.

    The funny thing, I never recall saying that I was Jewish
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    We're done here means I'm done responding to your posts in the thread.

    And since you're unable to read the thread properly, I'll explain - I'm not "crying about how mean people are to me", I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of left leaning posters getting banned multiple times for very minor things while outright bannable offenses from the right go ignored.

    For example, if I call someone a moron, like you just called me a bitch, I'd get banned.

    Now that I've dumbed it down for you, we're done here.
    Yeah you're still being a little bitch, just like I said. We're done here.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    I don't. I know what he's really like and when he's pretending.

    I don't want to sound cynically jaded, but this "olive branch & take the high road" thing is a ruse most of the time. I'd believe them if they actually practiced what they preached, but usually they say it and go right back to insults and trolling and melodrama straight away.


    They want to think that they're above insults and hatred, but in the very next breath can't control themselves and resort to their usual behaviour. Can't have your cake and eat it, too.

    95% of the people who troll and insult me, I ignore. That's the mature thing to do, so why don't they do that?
    Back off, Warchild.

    Seriously.
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    Originally Posted by MinisterOfLust View Post
    You should see the negs I get and the name they called me because of my support for the great state of Israel.

    The funny thing, I never recall saying that I was Jewish
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    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    I don't want to sound cynically jaded, but this "olive branch & take the high road" thing is a ruse most of the time. I'd believe them if they actually practiced what they preached, but usually they say it and go right back to insults and trolling and melodrama straight away.


    They want to think that they're above insults and hatred, but in the very next breath can't control themselves and resort to their usual behaviour. Can't have your cake and eat it, too.

    95% of the people who troll and insult me, I ignore. That's the mature thing to do, so why don't they do that?
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    Any answer as to why Z4 banned? How could he have a weeks long ban just for e-fighting?
    Back off, Warchild.

    Seriously.
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    Wow, thread is still going strong.

    It's almost like people are unaware of the Forum Guidelines.

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    Originally Posted by Bodhy View Post
    I don't want to sound cynically jaded, but this "olive branch & take the high road" thing is a ruse most of the time. I'd believe them if they actually practiced what they preached, but usually they say it and go right back to insults and trolling and melodrama straight away.

    They want to think that they're above insults and hatred, but in the very next breath can't control themselves and resort to their usual behaviour. Can't have your cake and eat it, too.

    95% of the people who troll and insult me, I ignore. That's the mature thing to do, so why don't they do that?
    I haven't with either you or Pat, and to the credit of both of you - neither of you have taken any shots in kind (although Pat is getting testy, but that might be b/c he was embroiled in a heated debate w/ Bushmaster). In fact, the only person I've taken shots at is the subject of this thread, which were more than deserved.
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    The irony of this post.. a post missing PROOF for his claims while accusing me of being nonfactual.

    This is what it's like "engaging" with the right on this forum.
    Kavanaugh is not a rapist. You repeatedly called him one. That's non factual. And before you get cheeky and move the goal posts to attempted rape, attempted rape is a crime as well. Show me a criminal conviction for either and I'll retract my statement. Until then you a liar who pushes defamatory statements.
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    You should see the negs I get and the name they called me because of my support for the great state of Israel.

    The funny thing, I never recall saying that I was Jewish
    Oh dear lord. Do tell why you think Israel, a settler colonialist European project carrying out ethnic cleansing RN, is a great state? It's a democracy theoretically. I'd argue it has descended to neofascism. But yea. Why?
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    Originally Posted by SaltyDog920 View Post
    Kavanaugh is not a rapist. You repeatedly called him one. That's non factual. And before you get cheeky and move the goal posts to attempted rape, attempted rape is a crime as well. Show me a criminal conviction for either and I'll retract my statement. Until then you a liar who pushes defamatory statements.
    Pat has a problem with perspective, as many people on extremes have.

    Someone neutral, they'd want more than a preponderance of the evidence, as rape is a serious allegation and the more serious the allegation, the more concrete the evidence need be. Someone biased to Kavanaugh's favor, they would demand more evidence to satisfy the allegations. Someone against, like Pat, is satisfied with very little.

    You're arguing with him, and I see a lot of that in the other thread, but you're arguing against his inherent biases -- a problem because he doesn't see them. He is incredibly biased, not just because he leans heavily left, but he also drinks a lot of the MSNBC Koolaid and they've repeated words and ideas which have entrenched him on this and many other issues.

    For him, the matter is settled so any little breadcrumb of 'evidence' against Kavanaugh or Trump or whoever Rachel Maddow is talking about that night, it's enough for NYPat.

    So: Is there *any* evidence against Kavanaugh? Any at all? Anything? Not concrete hard evidence that can withstand cross-examination, but just fuking anything, like heresay or the word of an unreliable person making an allegation that has many holes in it and does not stand up to examination. Oh, there is? It's weak as Hell, but exists?

    Well, that's good enough for NYPat.

    You can get angry with him or whatever, but it is what it is. I don't think it's worth getting hot about, calling him a retard or whatever other things I glanced and saw. He's just wired differently, in a very biased manner. The best you can do is just dial it down to being as factual as you can, without calling him a fuking moron or whatever else (not that you were, but I did see that going on).

    Originally Posted by uneducated View Post
    Oh dear lord. Do tell why you think Israel, a settler colonialist European project carrying out ethnic cleansing RN, is a great state? It's a democracy theoretically. I'd argue it has descended to neofascism. But yea. Why?
    This is going to come off as chitting on MOL, I'm not really saying this for that reason -- but you can not communicate with him. There is simply too far a gap in IQ. I forget the research, I think it's around 30 points difference, and I'm very certain the gap is at least that and probably considerably greater.
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    Originally Posted by uneducated View Post
    Oh dear lord. Do tell why you think Israel, a settler colonialist European project carrying out ethnic cleansing RN, is a great state? It's a democracy theoretically. I'd argue it has descended to neofascism. But yea. Why?
    What should Israel have done after October 7th?
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    Originally Posted by JUSA View Post
    Pat has a problem with perspective, as many people on extremes have.

    Someone neutral, they'd want more than a preponderance of the evidence, as rape is a serious allegation and the more serious the allegation, the more concrete the evidence need be. Someone biased to Kavanaugh's favor, they would demand more evidence to satisfy the allegations. Someone against, like Pat, is satisfied with very little.

    You're arguing with him, and I see a lot of that in the other thread, but you're arguing against his inherent biases -- a problem because he doesn't see them. He is incredibly biased, not just because he leans heavily left, but he also drinks a lot of the MSNBC Koolaid and they've repeated words and ideas which have entrenched him on this and many other issues.

    For him, the matter is settled so any little breadcrumb of 'evidence' against Kavanaugh or Trump or whoever Rachel Maddow is talking about that night, it's enough for NYPat.

    So: Is there *any* evidence against Kavanaugh? Any at all? Anything? Not concrete hard evidence that can withstand cross-examination, but just fuking anything, like heresay or the word of an unreliable person making an allegation that has many holes in it and does not stand up to examination. Oh, there is? It's weak as Hell, but exists?

    Well, that's good enough for NYPat.

    You can get angry with him or whatever, but it is what it is. I don't think it's worth getting hot about, calling him a retard or whatever other things I glanced and saw. He's just wired differently, in a very biased manner. The best you can do is just dial it down to being as factual as you can, without calling him a fuking moron or whatever else (not that you were, but I did see that going on).

    This is going to come off as chitting on MOL, I'm not really saying this for that reason -- but you can not communicate with him. There is simply too far a gap in IQ. I forget the research, I think it's around 30 points difference, and I'm very certain the gap is at least that and probably considerably greater.
    With that last part, I am not sure who you're chitting on, but you're also vastly overestimating the other party.

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    Originally Posted by uneducated View Post
    Oh dear lord. Do tell why you think Israel, a settler colonialist European project carrying out ethnic cleansing RN, is a great state? It's a democracy theoretically. I'd argue it has descended to neofascism. But yea. Why?
    Tell us, did the United States commit ethnic cleansing after 9/11? Going after a terrorist organization is not ethnic cleansing lol.

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    This is going to come off as chitting on MOL, I'm not really saying this for that reason -- but you can not communicate with him. There is simply too far a gap in IQ. I forget the research, I think it's around 30 points difference, and I'm very certain the gap is at least that and probably considerably greater.
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    Originally Posted by Anachron View Post
    With that last part, I am not sure who you're chitting on, but you're also vastly overestimating the other party.

    Lol, gotta respect a good burn.

    Btw, is it just me or is something wrong right now? It feels like something very feminine and very angry is looming over this section, like a twinkish and sassy sword of Damocles.

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    Thank you JUSA. Hope all is well with you and your family.
    I do consider Wincel to have a pretty high IQ, so just measure my comment with that in mind.
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    I do consider Wincel to have a pretty high IQ, so just measure my comment with that in mind.
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