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    Oakland Mayor and Soros DA are getting recalled after allowing rampant crime

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    But the left keeps telling us that crime is down???
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    The Republicans caused this. Trump hates Oakland and he loves Soros, like a Great, Great, Great Grandfather.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    But the left keeps telling us that crime is down???
    Biggest crime city departments not reporting their crime stats.

    Lefties: "crime is nosediving!"
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    Originally Posted by Mark1T View Post
    The Republicans caused this. Trump hates Oakland and he loves Soros, like a Great, Great, Great Grandfather.
    Actually that would be Vivek Ramaswamy. srs
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    Originally Posted by SaltyDog920 View Post
    Biggest crime city departments not reporting their crime stats.

    Lefties: "crime is nosediving!"
    Democrats keep finding new ways to be evil
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    Originally Posted by 128 View Post
    liberals are slow learners, but they learn

    You know it's bad when CNN isn't sugar coating it:

    No, they don't learn. They may remove these dems but they will continue to vote for the same type of dems who caused this.

    Yes, they are sugar coating it. If they were honest they'd say it's because areas with high black populations ALWAYS have higher violent crime rates.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    But the left keeps telling us that crime is down???
    They are.

    13% decrease in murder and on and on. Compare that to Trump's last year in office...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/ne...3-207164485946
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    They are.

    13% decrease in murder and on and on. Compare that to Trump's last year in office...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/ne...3-207164485946
    Just because it's down nationwide doesn't mean it's not up in some places.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    They are.

    13% decrease in murder and on and on. Compare that to Trump's last year in office...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/ne...3-207164485946
    So murder is down, compared to 2020, and 2021.....

    And if crime is down, why are businesses leaving blue states, and blue cities in droves?
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    They are.

    13% decrease in murder and on and on. Compare that to Trump's last year in office...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/ne...3-207164485946
    Since it's a hit piece on DeSantis, maybe you'll like it as a source?

    https://kansasreflector.com/2023/10/...s-often-wrong/

    When Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis announced his presidential campaign in May, he proudly told the nation that Florida’s crime rate in 2021 had reached a 50-year low.

    But really, DeSantis couldn’t say for sure.

    That’s because fewer than 1 in 10 law enforcement agencies in his state had reported their crime statistics to the FBI. In fact, more than 40% of the Sunshine State’s population was unaccounted for in the data used by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement in its 2021 statewide crime report.

    In Wichita, Kansas, Democratic Mayor Brandon Whipple claimed in May that violent crime had decreased by half during his term. But Whipple’s source, the FBI’s Crime Data Explorer, missed half the violent crimes recorded by the Wichita Police Department, possibly because the agency couldn’t mesh its system with the FBI’s recently revamped system.

    Across the country, law enforcement agencies’ inability — or refusal — to send their annual crime data to the FBI has resulted in a distorted picture of the United States’ crime trends, according to a new Stateline analysis of the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting program participation data.


    "Crime is decreasing!"
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    "A significant number of precincts are not sharing their data with the FBI so they can't produce an accurate picture of crime"

    "If we don't count crime, like Russian women getting raped because they cannot get raped, then the crime stats go down!"
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    But the left keeps telling us that crime is down???
    when you make crime legal less of it happens.
    who knew?
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    Originally Posted by SaltyDog920 View Post
    Since it's a hit piece on DeSantis, maybe you'll like it as a source?

    https://kansasreflector.com/2023/10/...s-often-wrong/

    When Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis announced his presidential campaign in May, he proudly told the nation that Florida’s crime rate in 2021 had reached a 50-year low.

    But really, DeSantis couldn’t say for sure.

    That’s because fewer than 1 in 10 law enforcement agencies in his state had reported their crime statistics to the FBI. In fact, more than 40% of the Sunshine State’s population was unaccounted for in the data used by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement in its 2021 statewide crime report.

    In Wichita, Kansas, Democratic Mayor Brandon Whipple claimed in May that violent crime had decreased by half during his term. But Whipple’s source, the FBI’s Crime Data Explorer, missed half the violent crimes recorded by the Wichita Police Department, possibly because the agency couldn’t mesh its system with the FBI’s recently revamped system.

    Across the country, law enforcement agencies’ inability — or refusal — to send their annual crime data to the FBI has resulted in a distorted picture of the United States’ crime trends, according to a new Stateline analysis of the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting program participation data.


    "Crime is decreasing!"
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    "A significant number of precincts are not sharing their data with the FBI so they can't produce an accurate picture of crime"

    "If we don't count crime, like Russian women getting raped because they cannot get raped, then the crime stats go down!"
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    "That's not how it works. A crime is a crime whether it gets reported or not"
    What is your argument here? Is it that crime is actually increasing because police departments have been slow to adapt their data systems to the new standards?
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    They are.

    13% decrease in murder and on and on. Compare that to Trump's last year in office...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/ne...3-207164485946
    Wow you should educate the people of Oakland! Crime’s actually DOWN and it’s very safe to go out! They’re just watching too much faux news right?
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    Originally Posted by Seatard View Post
    What is your argument here? Is it that crime is actually increasing because police departments have been slow to adapt their data systems to the new standards?
    Crime is down, because the homicides in 2023, and this year, aren't the same as in 2020-2021.

    Auto thefts are through the roof, but thats just property.

    Retail theft is through the roof. But that's just property and the stores have insurance.....
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    But the left keeps telling us that crime is down???
    That's because left wing DA's refuse to prosecute criminals.
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    She'll probably win, or if recalled, they will just replace her with another left wing extremist with the same exact (or worse) views and policies.
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    Police and dispatch in most cities refuse to take police reports so their city looks less bad. Their job is not to save you; it is to make tax payers and consumers feel safe enough to carry on. Only the lucky see justice.
    Any proof for this statement? As an officer, I can't just refuse to write a report. "Oh you were robbed, meh, you're okay..... No need to do a report."
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    That's because left wing DA's refuse to prosecute criminals.
    A state is truly progressive when they won't release someone's mug shot, or cover up their faces, in public, when a body cam is released to the public.....
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    Originally Posted by Seatard View Post
    What is your argument here? Is it that crime is actually increasing because police departments have been slow to adapt their data systems to the new standards?
    It's pretty fkn clear. We are unable to celebrate lowering crime because we have incomplete data. Where tf did I imply that it was increasing? We literally have no idea.
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    It's pretty fkn clear. We are unable to celebrate lowering crime because we have incomplete data. Where tf did I imply that it was increasing? We literally have no idea.
    On the state and federal levels there is plenty of information available to calculate trends. Incomplete data just means the margin of error is slightly increased, not that we suddenly have no idea and are completely in the dark.
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    She can't play the race card either because the majority of people wanting her recalled are black.
    Give it a minute, they'll find a way to blame it on the White boogey man & or BLumpfd
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    Originally Posted by Seatard View Post
    On the state and federal levels there is plenty of information available to calculate trends. Incomplete data just means the margin of error is slightly increased, not that we suddenly have no idea and are completely in the dark.
    The federal levels are exactly where there isn't complete data. RAPEYPat, who I was responding to, referenced a news story stating FBI stats. The FBI stats are EXACTLY where there's incomplete.

    For you to read again:
    When Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis announced his presidential campaign in May, he proudly told the nation that Florida’s crime rate in 2021 had reached a 50-year low.

    But really, DeSantis couldn’t say for sure.

    That’s because fewer than 1 in 10 law enforcement agencies in his state had reported their crime statistics to the FBI. In fact, more than 40% of the Sunshine State’s population was unaccounted for in the data used by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement in its 2021 statewide crime report.

    In Wichita, Kansas, Democratic Mayor Brandon Whipple claimed in May that violent crime had decreased by half during his term. But Whipple’s source, the FBI’s Crime Data Explorer, missed half the violent crimes recorded by the Wichita Police Department, possibly because the agency couldn’t mesh its system with the FBI’s recently revamped system.

    Across the country, law enforcement agencies’ inability — or refusal — to send their annual crime data to the FBI has resulted in a distorted picture of the United States’ crime trends, according to a new Stateline analysis of the FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting program participation data.


    And more information for you to digest:

    The Marshall Project reported that 31 percent of the 18,000 law enforcement agencies across the U.S. failed to report crime data to the FBI’s national database after transitioning to a new data collection system, according to the latest statistics from the FBI. That’s a slight improvement from 2021, when 40 percent of law enforcement agencies didn’t report crime data. Still, it’s a glaring blind spot, especially when that data is missing from some of the largest metro areas dealing with rampant, out-of-control crime.


    To estimate national trends, the FBI collects crime reports from thousands of law enforcement agencies across the country. Last year, the FBI—through the Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) program—made significant changes to how local, county, state, tribal, and federal agencies submit their data. Now, agencies can only submit reports through one system—NIBRS—requiring a big administrative shift among police departments and other law enforcement agencies, and substantially more detailed input. As a result, participation plummeted. Of the 18,000 agencies in the country, only half submitted a full year’s worth of data. Only 63 percent submitted any data at all.

    And so, as predicted, the 2021 crime data tells us . . . well, not much.




    So because you're able to draw conclusions from incredibly limited FBI nationwide data, I'm assuming you're perfectly willing to accept Ron Desantis' comment about FL crime plummeting?

    When Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis announced his presidential campaign in May, he proudly told the nation that Florida’s crime rate in 2021 had reached a 50-year low.

    But really, DeSantis couldn’t say for sure.
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    Originally Posted by NYPat View Post
    They are.

    13% decrease in murder and on and on. Compare that to Trump's last year in office...

    https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/ne...3-207164485946

    13% decrease YoY. Still notable higher than in 2019 or the decade prior. As they indirectly said in the video, violence jumped up because of Covid lockdowns. I'd add the George Floyd case caused a lot of murder. The 2020 summer of Burn Loot Murder will not be forgotten. Also, violent crime jumped up again in 2021.

    Wuhan virus overreactors and MSM have a lot of blood on their hands.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Any proof for this statement? As an officer, I can't just refuse to write a report. "Oh you were robbed, meh, you're okay..... No need to do a report."
    I have a recorded phone call of a police officer refusing to give a police report after I reported my sister kidnapped. His excuse was that he did not believe my story since I did not want him calling her phone while her abductor was with her.

    Many other calls went that way, but I only recorded a few of them. I was very frantic and studdering in the call, but it is obviously the police.

    I'll upload it to google drive today and PM you the link. I don't want it public while she is still with him, but you can respond here and tell members if it is true. Lots of police and dispatch reacted the same way to me, many trying to imply I might be crazy rather than help.
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