Cars made in 2000 was just better.

[theory816]

Got a chance to sit in a few old beaters from the 2000's era and the sheet metals felt heftier. Like if I opened the door or hood, that chit felt like it weighed a ton compared to new cars today.

It seems like they are building paper thinned cars today and you're barely getting better mileage. A Corolla from 2004 gets the same mileage as a 2024 Corolla. Just smh.

[JayJ350]

They don't make em like they used to.

[phaginator]

Agreed. All the new tech is stupid too

[theory816]

Agreed. All the new tech is stupid too

Some of the new tech aint too bad lol.

[Sal29]

Got a chance to sit in a few old beaters from the 2000's era and the sheet metals felt heftier. Like if opened the door or hood, that chit felt like it weighed a ton compared to new cars today.

It seems like they are building paper thinned cars today and you're barely getting better mileage. A Corolla from 2004 gets the same mileage from a 2024 Corolla. Just smh.

Quality has gone down so much that a GM 3800 (3.8 liter pushrod V6) from the mid 2000s are more reliable than the Turbo I4 Dual Fuel Injection Dual Variable Valve Timing and Turbo V6 Dual Fuel Injection Dual Variable Valve Timing engines in many Toyotas and Lexuses in 2024.
The GM 3800 was always a very solid engine, it was the transmissions that were the weak link in those vehicles.

Naturally Aspirated Versions



Supercharged Version



Toyota 2.4 liter Turbo Inline 4 in 2024 Highlander is also in many other Toyota and Lexus vehicles.

[fate0311]

The longer the duration of a collision the more energy that is transferred. You may not want to hear it but your daddy's metal rectangle he drove around was not actually safer. Car collisions of yesterday behaved more elastic. Car's that crumple increase the duration (normally measured in milliseconds as collisions in general are quick) of the collision.

[GuineaDago585]

The longer the duration of a collision the more energy that is transferred. You may not want to hear it but your daddy's metal rectangle he drove around was not actually safer. Car collisions of yesterday behaved more elastic. Car's that crumple increase the duration (normally measured in milliseconds as collisions in general are quick) of the collision.

True. New cars are infinitely safer than cars made even 10-15 years ago srs.

[theory816]

The longer the duration of a collision the more energy that is transferred. You may not want to hear it but your daddy's metal rectangle he drove around was not actually safer. Car collisions of yesterday behaved more elastic. Car's that crumple increase the duration (normally measured in milliseconds as collisions in general are quick) of the collision.

Death inducing car crashes are a non issue. From USAtoday, "There are nearly 43,000 fatal crashes a year in the U.S., but there’s at least a glimmer of hope: The actual deadly car crash rate is less than 1%."

And that's not considering that you can increase your driving skills.

[aal04]

Turbo tech has gone crazy good though

lil everyday small turbos putting out 200nm+ torque

lots of cars do sub 5s 100/60

im not a fan of safety tech. personally prefer maximum weight saving - cars that are safer to drive, not crash safer.

[IAMBEE]

If it doesn't have a throttle cable then I don't want to own it. Not a big DBW fan.

[bsmit107]

I agree, they're just nostalgic for me too. Born in 1985, was in highschool in 2000. They're just simpler and not loaded with technology and chit that's just going to break......and if it does break, it's cheap AF to fix.

List of cars I've owned, some as daily's, some as projects
1992 Pontiac Bonneville
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport
2004 Ram 1500 regular cab 4x4
2002 Ford Escape
1998 Jeep Wrangler
2003 WRX STI
1972 Buick Skylark
2006 4Runner

Currently own.
2009 F150 Lariat 4door 4x4
1999 Mustang GT, Coyote Swapped with about $15k worth of other goodies, built for road course racing.

Want just because I'm a nostalgic idiot
2002 TransAm WS6
2000 Civic
2003 Tahoe
2000 Ranger
1995 F150 regular cab

[steeler505]

Whereas was is the singular past tense of to be, were is used for both the third person plural past tense (they and we) and the second person past tense (you). In the past indicative, were acts similar to was. “They were at the store,” you could say, for example.

[LuvVag]

Cars were "simpler" not better.... Modern cars are probably more difficult to fix but they're infinitely better/safer than older cars..

[theory816]

Biden Bump

[EDcellent]

Fuark in on now 3800 engine thread. I had a GTP Daytona edition that was an incredible daily driver. After replacing the transmission (lol) and rebuilding the front end at 90k, that thing was a 29mpg cruiser for 80k miles. I only got rid of it to buy a G8.

[gluon]

People that disagree with OP are consoomer lemmings.

Beyond the interior, their car is a magical black box and they have no clue how anything is made or how it functions. Pathetic

[Cudabrah]

Cash 4 Clunkers destroyed a ton of that era of vehicles.



Thanks Obama.

[theory816]

Cash 4 Clunkers destroyed a ton of that era of vehicles.
Thanks Obama.

fuuuuuark

[eddiehaskell]

one thing nice about the old days was being able to buy a $1000 car that could run for years

[RocknRollMuscle]

new cars are safer sorry

but more prone to issues and $$ so there's that.

or you can buy an old car and NOT DRIVE LIKE A MANIAC. Slow the F down and stay in right lane.

[5x10]

Cars were "simpler" not better.... Modern cars are probably more difficult to fix but they're infinitely better/safer than older cars..

of course they are more difficult to fix
More electrical components
Turbos everywhere
Not nearly as reliable

[theory816]

new cars are safer sorry

but more prone to issues and $$ so there's that.

or you can buy an old car and NOT DRIVE LIKE A MANIAC. Slow the F down and stay in right lane.

You're going to die in a head on crash in a 2000s and newer car regardless.

[singlemom69]

90’s Honda’s & Toyota’s are GOATED 4 life