Was the Vaccine ever sold as stopping Covid?

[Dave22reborn]

Excess deaths. That's how we know. Believe it or not, people also care about TB. TB kills around 1 mil a year.

People are idiots. That doesn't change the data.

Millions of people with numerous pre-existing conditions died "with" Covid, worse virus in history, worse than the Spanish Flu, right Wincel?

[Dave22reborn]

We're the BBQ's in poorly ventilated indoor spaces?

Were you infectious?

Were you concerned with transmitting or getting COVID?

****, I guess I should have only went outside when I had to go to work.....

[Dave22reborn]

Don't listen to the media for science information. The solution has always been to ask your doctor and talk to scientists. They all overwhelmingly recommended the vaccines (with some discredited detractors, which is normal in any field.).

Yes, and it worked for many countries that FOLLOWED THE GUIDELINES. It's common sense.

Divorce yourself from all politics for a second. A dangerous airborne respiratory virus is spreading among the population. What is the gameplan?

It is amusing that the position of so many here is literally procovid. As in, they denied covid existed, refused to mask, refused to comply with distancing guidelines, and refused a vaccine. It's impressive how hard you guys worked to side with the virus. I call it the covid lobby. You are so shamelessly pro virus that it is hilarious.

Yeah, explain why I should have lived like you these past couple of years. I'd rather off myself.

[6gorillion]

Not even remotely true. You're delulu, kiddo. And how do you explain the excess deaths of 2020? Magic?

when the flu, car accident victims, natural deaths, gun shot victims, and other victims were labeled as "covid deaths" they lost all legitimacy.

gwg77 can you post the video of where they say "even if you die from a CLEAR alternate cause, if you had covid at the time of death, you will be listed as a COVID DEATH"

[Dave22reborn]

Without any measures, it would have killed more than the Spanish Flu, undoubtedly. You are a cop. You don't know anything about epidemiology. Why don't you go look at what they have to say about this? Why are you such an arrogant fukwad that you think you know everything?

Spanish flu killed 50-100 million people when the world population was 1.8 million.

You're saying Covid was worse?

[6gorillion]

You want to try again there champ? Learn to read. Covid is a worse virus. We used measures to reduce the death toll and severity. If everyone yolo'd it like you wanted us to, we'd have been looking at an extraordinarily high death toll globally. Sorry, big virus lost.

huh...funny how Sweden, Belarus and a bunch of other Eastern Euro countries gave no fuks about it and things went on fine.

Funny how people in Sub Saharan Africa literally had no idea that a "pandemic" was going on. No "tv man" to tell them to be scared.

Funniest part about liberals is that they think covid was the worst thing ever but they were okay having open borders will millions of unvaxxed pouring in every day LMAO. MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!

[Dave22reborn]

Like what? You take a shot, wear a mask and go about your day. If that's too hard for you, maybe option 2 is a blessing.

Because there was no reason for me to get the shot, or wear a mask.

[Bodhy]

Excess deaths from the RNA shots far outweigh the excess deaths from the virus. That will be the reality for at least another decade. That doesn't even include the FACT (per the American Health Association in August 2020) that the overreactions to Covid would kill more than the virus itself.

After falling or being flat for almost 30 years cancer death rates jumped up in 2021, then again in 2022. And not by a negligible amount. We're talking 5x the rate increases that could be explained by off chance. IGG4. Theorized to be okay to increase high levels continually, but through persistent elevation via the shots instead is causing autoimmune disorders and cancer to rise at levels that don't have another plausible explanation.

Stay away from the topic of health. Even if you pretend to know a bit about biology it doesn't apply to how that translates into reactions of human physiology.

What kind of dumbdick fallacious claims are you making here?

The vaccines are somehow causing cancer because they were rolled out when excess death rates spiked? Correlational-causational fallacy, much?

It is possible to die because of Covid, and not from it. You are aware that a pandemic has massive affects beyond just human physiology? If enough people are hospitalised due to Covid it can kick off an accelerated feedback loop where a whole other bunch of people can die but not from the virus. The health care capacity can be severely strained which is why we saw a spiral of deaths in places.


A guy can die due to a motorcycle accident because there's no hospital beds, for example. With understaffing and supply issues even treatable things become fatal. People aren't coming in for regular cancer screenings. People can't treatment for cancer they would have otherwise gotten. People become hermits and and don't go to the doctor because they're scared of getting covid, and die from something else.


This is precisely why vaccination and social distancing etc were so important to curbing the spread, and why people like you with your anti-vaxxer horsechit perpetuated the spread.

[Dave22reborn]

You want to try again there champ? Learn to read. Covid is a worse virus. We used measures to reduce the death toll and severity. If everyone yolo'd it like you wanted us to, we'd have been looking at an extraordinarily high death toll globally. Sorry, big virus lost.

Youre claiming without those measures hundreds of millions would have died?

[Dave22reborn]

What kind of dumbdick fallacious claims are you making here?

The vaccines are somehow causing cancer because they were rolled out when excess death rates spiked? Correlational-causational fallacy, much?

It is possible to die because of Covid, and not from it. You are aware that a pandemic has massive affects beyond just human physiology? If enough people are hospitalised due to Covid it can kick off an accelerated feedback loop where a whole other bunch of people can die but not from the virus. The health care capacity can be severely strained which is why we saw a spiral of deaths in places.


A guy can die due to a motorcycle accident because there's no hospital beds, for example. With understaffing and supply issues even treatable things become fatal. People aren't coming in for regular cancer screenings. People can't treatment for cancer they would have otherwise gotten. People become hermits and and don't go to the doctor because they're scared of getting covid, and die from something else.


This is precisely why vaccination and social distancing etc were so important to curbing the spread, and why people like you with your anti-vaxxer horsechit perpetuated the spread.

Get a vaccine where the rate of survival is 99.3%......

Also, just because you got the Rona, doesn't mean you were gonna end up in a hospital, most likely you would have chilled at home.

[Dave22reborn]

Belarus had lockdowns and mass vaccination. Sweden suffered a disproportionately high death rate relative to others. Try again. People in Africa have a much younger population overall. Still, there were many excess deaths and undercounts. There was limited testing going on there.

Funniest part about idiots is that they think they know more than doctors, epidemiologists, etc and can disprove the body of medical research in a forum debate.

Yeah, I think I know more than an expert who recommended wearing two masks, or whether or not someone should wear one while taking a shower, or going to sleep in their own home.....

[6gorillion]

Belarus had lockdowns and mass vaccination. Sweden suffered a disproportionately high death rate relative to others. Try again. People in Africa have a much younger population overall. Still, there were many excess deaths and undercounts. There was limited testing going on there.

Funniest part about idiots is that they think they know more than doctors, epidemiologists, etc and can disprove the body of medical research in a forum debate.

"On 9 April, a mandatory 14-day self-isolation requirement was issued by the government for foreign and Belarusian citizens with either confirmed COVID-19 diagnosis, or the status of first- or second-level contact. The penalties for breaking the requirement include administrative detention, fine and imprisonment."

Based Uncle Luka implemented the Wincel strategy. And it helped a lot. Notice the part where they throw your ass in jail if you don't comply? I love that part.

"if you don't comply we will throw you in jail"... And you supposedly hate fascists right? lmao.

[6gorillion]

Nazis always whine when they are sent to the camps, but have no problem killing everyone else. You're sitting here arguing all the sick elderly and kids who died deserved it, and you want pity? Die, fascist.

Nope, but that's life son... life is about survival of the fittest. Where did I say deserved it? another tactic of the dishonest left, literally make up things that the other side have not said whatsoever.

Now since the lockdowns that *******s such as yourself wanted and clamored for over and over, we are ****ED with inflation from a destroyed global economy and endless $$$ printing for "covid aid". You're going to be in daddy's basement making endless alts for the rest of your life now since things are 3x the price of 5 years ago.

ALL TO SAVE GRANDMA! She died at 92 now instead of 90

[frankdtank20]

What kind of dumbdick fallacious claims are you making here?

The vaccines are somehow causing cancer because they were rolled out when excess death rates spiked? Correlational-causational fallacy, much?

It is possible to die because of Covid, and not from it. You are aware that a pandemic has massive affects beyond just human physiology? If enough people are hospitalised due to Covid it can kick off an accelerated feedback loop where a whole other bunch of people can die but not from the virus. The health care capacity can be severely strained which is why we saw a spiral of deaths in places.


A guy can die due to a motorcycle accident because there's no hospital beds, for example. With understaffing and supply issues even treatable things become fatal. People aren't coming in for regular cancer screenings. People can't treatment for cancer they would have otherwise gotten. People become hermits and and don't go to the doctor because they're scared of getting covid, and die from something else.


This is precisely why vaccination and social distancing etc were so important to curbing the spread, and why people like you with your anti-vaxxer horsechit perpetuated the spread.

Try keeping up with modern health discoveries. Not sure why you're bringing up unrelated topics.

"Everyone will get infected" - March 2020, every health organization

I was fully onboard with the shots in late 2020 because I hadn't read the unavailable study specifics. My posts around the release of them back around December 2020 were very excited about bringing the death rate of old people down and getting govt bureaucrats off our necks. A few months later when the shots were known to be bunk I changed my mind because of new information. I was wrong initially back in December, you've been wrong since.

Your stance kills a fuk ton of people. Try being adaptable, taking in new information even if it pains you. Ever actually been in a clinical setting, seen patients? I didn't think so. Get off your low horse.

[Anachron]

Nazis always whine when they are sent to the camps, but have no problem killing everyone else. You're sitting here arguing all the sick elderly and kids who died deserved it, and you want pity? They cry as they strike you. Die, fascist. You are a selfish rodent who only cared about his own wants and was unwilling to sacrifice for the community.

Interesting.

How many times are you planning to donate blood this year?

[6gorillion]

Well. I guess the fittest decided on lockdowns. Cry more. Perhaps if nazis weren't such soyboys, there would have been a different order and you could have yolo'd the virus for Big Kung Flu. But you lost, and here we are. Sucks to be you.

The elite wanted lockdowns as it would destroy the plebs such as yourself with inflation

They enriched themselves 100x over during that period while you cry in a basement about imaginary Nazis and Fascists.

[frankdtank20]

Nobody told you that. You don't have any expertise whatsoever in epidemiology.

Says the expert in nothing but Google Search. And it's obvious.

[Anachron]

But I listened to the experts on it, and you didn't. I'm also an expert on much more than Google search, but that's ok.

Interesting.

How many times are you planning to donate blood this year?

[6gorillion]

Interesting.

How many times are you planning to donate blood this year?

Same "experts" that said the shot will stop transmission of virus.

Same "experts" that said the Wuhan Lab theory was a "conspiracy"

Same "experts" that said masks work.

Same "experts" that said lockdowns wouldn't devastate the economy

Same "experts" that said inflation is transitory

He loves listening to EXPERTS LOL. If EXPERTS told him to shove a dildo in his ass to prevent the kung flu he would have done it.

[Anachron]

Same "experts" that said the shot will stop transmission of virus.

Same "experts" that said the Wuhan Lab theory was a "conspiracy"

Same "experts" that said masks work.

Same "experts" that said lockdowns wouldn't devastate the economy

Same "experts" that said inflation is transitory

He loves listening to EXPERTS LOL. If EXPERTS told him to shove a dildo in his ass to prevent the kung flu he would have done it.

I think you quoted the wrong guy.

[frankdtank20]

But I listened to the experts on it, and you didn't. I'm also an expert on much more than Google search, but that's ok.

I listened to experts. Like every health organization in the world that said we'd all get infected. I also didn't take everything as gospel, especially as new data came out contradicting the experts pushed by the establishment. I didn't panic in 2020. I knew the low infection fatality rate, especially the vast difference of IFR be age. You didn't. I knew over 100 million Americans were infected in 2020, as was proven. You didn't Ignorant paniccels thought only 20-30 million had been infected (full retard mode).

I read things that made me uncomfortable, you've stuck with the algorithm. I learned early on no healthy children die from Covid, paniccels think they were dropping like flies because they're incapable of reading beyond what's posted on MSN.com or Yahoo articles.


You know less than nothing about health, or physiology. Keep sticking to that Food Guide Pyramid, bro. When you get old make sure to take those heart weakening statins. Good god, why am I responding to Wincel?

[Dave22reborn]

Yes. I believe so. 100-200 M or so.

So entertaining Wincel, don't ever change.

[Dave22reborn]

Well. I guess the fittest decided on lockdowns. Cry more. Perhaps if nazis weren't such soyboys, there would have been a different order and you could have yolo'd the virus for Big Kung Flu. But you lost, and here we are. Sucks to be you.

The lockdowns didn't really affect me. Found two gyms that remained open, and still lived my life, I still traveled and when I came back from traveling I wouldn't quarantine, went to numerous gatherings.

How does that make you feel?

[J.L.C.]

Get a vaccine where the rate of survival is 99.3%......

Also, just because you got the Rona, doesn't mean you were gonna end up in a hospital, most likely you would have chilled at home.

Do you oppose polio vaccines?

The survival rate is 99.75%,.

[J.L.C.]

Try keeping up with modern health discoveries. Not sure why you're bringing up unrelated topics.

"Everyone will get infected" - March 2020, every health organization

I was fully onboard with the shots in late 2020 because I hadn't read the unavailable study specifics. My posts around the release of them back around December 2020 were very excited about bringing the death rate of old people down and getting govt bureaucrats off our necks. A few months later when the shots were known to be bunk I changed my mind because of new information. I was wrong initially back in December, you've been wrong since.

Your stance kills a fuk ton of people. Try being adaptable, taking in new information even if it pains you. Ever actually been in a clinical setting, seen patients? I didn't think so. Get off your low horse.

Where I an, death rates in the elderly dropped (stopped in LTC) when the shots became available.

[poison]

Where I an, death rates in the elderly dropped (stopped in LTC) when the shots became available.

The vulnerable were mostly culled by that time.

[J.L.C.]

Interesting.

How many times are you planning to donate blood this year?

[J.L.C.]

The vulnerable were mostly culled by that time.

Aren't people in LTC still considered vulnerable?

[Anachron]

I mean, if you completely ignored his "unwilling to sacrifice for the community" line, you'd be correct.

[J.L.C.]

I mean, if you completely ignored his "unwilling to sacrifice for the community" line, you'd be correct.

Ahhh, so is it an appeal to hypocrisy (ad hominem)?