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    Australia's minimum wage is 23 dollars per hour...how come America's is still 7.25?

    But we have enough money to give to Ukraine though

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    Employees covered by an award or registered agreement are entitled to the minimum pay rates, including penalty rates and allowances in their award or agreement. These pay rates may be higher than the National Minimum Wage.
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    Plus you get universal healthcare
    Childcare subsidy
    Safest and best country in the world
    Public education and heavily subsidised university for citizens
    Haven’t been overtaken by woke agenda
    Didn’t get cucked into mandatory clot shots


    The salary pales in comparison to all the other benefits
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    Plus you get universal healthcare
    Childcare subsidy
    Safest and best country in the world
    Public education and heavily subsidised university for citizens
    Haven’t been overtaken by woke agenda
    Didn’t get cucked into mandatory clot shots


    The salary pales in comparison to all the other benefits
    couldn't tell if troll


    covid lockdowns weren't as bad as rightwing media made it out but we had it as bad as anyone, and wokeness is pretty big here depending on the city
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    Originally Posted by ninetynine8 View Post
    couldn't tell if troll


    covid lockdowns weren't as bad as rightwing media made it out but we had it as bad as anyone, and wokeness is pretty big here depending on the city
    Guessing you’re in Melbourne

    You phukks deserve what you get
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    because America is based on slavery and still kinda is
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    Damn, home ownership must be through the roof in Australia!!!
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    Guessing you’re in Melbourne

    You phukks deserve what you get
    no i live in a small town lol
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    Plus you get universal healthcare
    Childcare subsidy
    Safest and best country in the world
    Public education and heavily subsidised university for citizens
    Haven’t been overtaken by woke agenda
    Didn’t get cucked into mandatory clot shots


    The salary pales in comparison to all the other benefits
    Australia isn't woke?

    You didn't have some of the worst lockdowns throughout the world? That were enforced by the military? Fining people thousands of dollars for violating them?
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    Well let’s try to actually critically think here

    Since 1 usd = .66 Australian dollars. That 23 is actually more like 15

    Since Australia has a population of 26million

    Let’s say the state of California alone with a higher minimum already bumps your entire country into insignificance.

    America has over double your entire fukking population living in areas with higher minimum wage than your country.

    We also have rural areas with low costs of living where people can live off less. It’s such a retarded talking point and you didn’t even have the decency to do currency conversions.
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    Originally Posted by Dave22reborn View Post
    Australia isn't woke?

    You didn't have some of the worst lockdowns throughout the world? That were enforced by the military? Fining people thousands of dollars for violating them?
    Lmao

    Sure

    Then there’s the drop bears

    You really are retarted aren’t you
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    Originally Posted by Duckliver View Post
    Well let’s try to actually critically think here

    Since 1 usd = .66 Australian dollars. That 23 is actually more like 15

    Since Australia has a population of 26million

    Let’s say the state of California alone with a higher minimum already bumps your entire country into insignificance.

    America has over double your entire fukking population living in areas with higher minimum wage than your country.

    We also have rural areas with low costs of living where people can live off less. It’s such a retarded talking point and you didn’t even have the decency to do currency conversions.
    No, retarded would be if you didn’t factor in the universal healthcare or virtually nonexistent risk of your kids being shot at school

    Or lack of woke agenda etc

    Like, sure the wage is good but that’s not the reason for it being the GOAT country
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    No, retarded would be if you didn’t factor in the universal healthcare or virtually nonexistent risk of your kids being shot at school

    Or lack of woke agenda etc

    Like, sure the wage is good but that’s not the reason for it being the GOAT country
    So now I’m retarded for not bringing up social issues in a topic about minimum wage? You just going to completely change the subject and use that to refute a point about misleading statistics on the actual thread topic while also insulting my line of thought?

    That’s some bullchit
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    A lot of countries, especially the Scandinavian and European utopias that liberals rave about, don't even have minimum wages.

    Imagine being so worthless that you can only make $7.25/hr. Just spend your first paycheck on some rope and a stool.
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    Originally Posted by Jasonw1178 View Post
    A lot of countries, especially the Scandinavian and European utopias that liberals rave about, don't even have minimum wages.

    Imagine being so worthless that you can only make $7.25/hr. Just spend your first paycheck on some rope and a stool.
    in your case, a very tall stool
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    Originally Posted by Duckliver View Post
    So now I’m retarded for not bringing up social issues in a topic about minimum wage? You just going to completely change the subject and use that to refute a point about misleading statistics on the actual thread topic while also insulting my line of thought?

    That’s some bullchit
    Nope

    When comparing minimum wages, in addition to exchange rates you would have to factor in other non-wage financial benefits that are received through the tax and transfer system, such as universal healthcare or other income support arrangements

    The person on minimum wage in Australia earns more than twice the US minimum wage in US dollars, and also receives much more than that in government benefits

    Originally Posted by Chowboy View Post
    What are 'Straya's tax rates?
    In most cases people on minimum wage would pay zero taxes, and most likely receive several subsidies
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    I don't know if you've noticed, but most places even in low cost of living areas are offering pretty solid wages to get people in for poverty jobs like fast food and line retail work. The local Target is paying people like $18 an hour or some chit to run cash registers and stock shelves.

    It's the middle class that got fukked over the past few years. Our wages have been far outpaced by inflation (we didn't get our wages basically doubled to tripled over covid like lower class jobs did), our taxes are worse than ever, and people tell us we should just shut up and be happy with it.
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    Exchange rate is $1 USD to $1.52 AUD, so this works out to $15 USD.

    Having said that, if you work for minimum wage and aren't a teenager, you're pretty pathetic.
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    Minimum wages are a terrible idea. They artificially keep wages low is a capitalistic society, as most employers pay the minimum when they would otherwise be higher in a free market.

    As with most regulations, it's a way for politicians to gain votes while actually making things worse for the people they claim to represent.
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    Nope

    When comparing minimum wages, in addition to exchange rates you would have to factor in other non-wage financial benefits that are received through the tax and transfer system, such as universal healthcare or other income support arrangements

    The person on minimum wage in Australia earns more than twice the US minimum wage in US dollars, and also receives much more than that in government benefits



    In most cases people on minimum wage would pay zero taxes, and most likely receive several subsidies
    So you glass over the shooting and woke agenda you threw in there as if you never said it.

    Pretend asking for equivalent exchange rate for equal comparison then requires a concession of consideration for how taxes are spent as if that can gloss over the fact you were bringing up multiple social points. Then once again change the goalposts.

    mental gymnastics of you trying to obfuscate previous claims while bolstering a new angle is fun to watch, but ultimately its sophistry. Whatever makes you feel good I guess.
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    Let's be reality here.

    No one pays minimum wage, it's more like $15+ an hour now, just go into a fast food place and see what the strating wage is.

    The only ones who make minimum are waiters, but they also make tips so it's probably closer to $20 an hour.
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    Why would you be happy about the minimum wage being that high? It makes everything expensive.
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    Because McChicken meal here costs $13.00 lol
    Everything is expensive here as well.
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    No, retarded would be if you didn’t factor in the universal healthcare or virtually nonexistent risk of your kids being shot at school

    Or lack of woke agenda etc

    Like, sure the wage is good but that’s not the reason for it being the GOAT country
    I'd rather have quality private insurance and not have to wait a year for a knee operation.

    Also don't need big daddy government to protect me from an offender.
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    Compare taxes and cost of living

    Minimum wage in America is only that low where those ^^^ are low

    Some states pay like $15 an hour but everything costs more, same with Australia I’m sure.
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    Originally Posted by r32gojirra View Post
    No, retarded would be if you didn’t factor in the universal healthcare or virtually nonexistent risk of your kids being shot at school

    Or lack of woke agenda etc

    Like, sure the wage is good but that’s not the reason for it being the GOAT country
    Sure let’s just forget that all countries allied with America have universal healthcare because the US taxpayer subsidizes weak countries military. We should pull back from the world and spend half what we do on the military for border patrol and rounding up illegals and shipping them back to their home country. Then even if it’s not tax payer funded the healthcare demand will drop drastically lowering prices back to 1990 levels (which absolutely mogged universal healthcare taxes in other countries). Then countries like Australia would have to fund their own navies to handle chinese and russian expansionism and of course that money has to come from somewhere so it’s either higher taxes or no more universal healthcare or subsidized schooling, I guess your choice.

    You pha gs, should be bowing down and paying tribute to the US taxpayer for keeping you safe at night, god knows your pathetic country is incapable of doing it yourselves.
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