How do you negotiate for a higher salary at your current job? Not sure how.

[MikeLowrrrey]

Started off at $18/hr. Only reason I got a raise to $55k was because I started looking at other employers and got a job offer.



Now I'm looking for a $75k job. I feel like current employer needs me, we've had a lot of work this year. Do I ask for a raise to $70k now or do I wait until I have another job offer? I feel like that's bad etiquette since I got a raise almost 2 years ago using by using another employer's job offer.


Either way, $55k isn't much.

[nrowles]

At bare minimum don't take an aggressive approach (demanding) and logically explain how your value is worth $70k with actually statistics if that's possible.

[blazenbb]

Bring value to the table. If they don’t give you a raise, someone else will recognize your talent. You actually have to be good at your job though and be able to prove it

[ProudKraut]

Identify as a transexual minor attracted attack helicopter and threaten to shame them on reddit if they don't give you equal salery as the CEO.

EZ.

[FelixTheCat1919]

Show up in a wig and dress and tell them you are trans and feel inadequetly paid

Bring value to the table. If they don’t give you a raise, someone else will recognize your talent. You actually have to be good at your job though and be able to prove it

lmao this is awful advice

[Condo41]

3 step process.

First of all. It's not negotiation. Negotiation is when your salary is unknown and you're settling on one together.

You already have a salary and so you are leveraging.

First leverage point, pay me more money or I'm looking for another job.

Second leverage point, pay me more money or I'm taking thus other offer

Third step, not a leverage point, bluffs are called or caved. You take the other offer or get paid more.

do not do this unless you're actually willing to leave

[MikeLowrrrey]

3 step process.

First of all. It's not negotiation. Negotiation is when your salary is unknown and you're settling on one together.

You already have a salary and so you are leveraging.

First leverage point, pay me more money or I'm looking for another job.

Second leverage point, pay me more money or I'm taking thus other offer

Third step, not a leverage point, bluffs are called or caved. You take the other offer or get paid more.

do not do this unless you're actually willing to leave

Yeah definitely willing to leave if they keep me at a poverty salary. I do more than enough work too.

[Chowboy]

Be honest with them. Advise them that you are seeking employment with a higher pay grade. However, also tell them that you enjoy this company and would prefer not to leave.


Then, keep your fingers crossed. If nothing happens, leave.

[JeepBruh]

Two years ago is a pretty long time even if you got a raise using another job offer the last time. Bottom line is they are either paying you market rate or they are not. That should be your main ammunition.

They will probably try to slow walk the raise by creating an action plan of goals for the next six months or something. That is on you at that point to say what you are already doing.

Unfortunately, the best way to get a pay raise nowadays is to switch companies.

[FelixTheCat1919]

Be honest with them. Advise them that you are seeking employment with a higher pay grade. However, also tell them that you enjoy this company and would prefer not to leave.


Then, keep your fingers crossed. If nothing happens, leave.

Awful advice. Lmao at giving them a heads up without having a real offer in your hands first.

[blazenbb]

Show up in a wig and dress and tell them you are trans and feel inadequetly paid





lmao this is awful advice

I’d be shocked if I made less than 2-10x what you do.

Edit: its easy to criticize. Where’s you’re brilliant suggestions?

[leafs43]

You go get another job that pays higher, spend 2 years in that role then come back. Within 24-32 months you will be making 30% more.

[Bigbuster1]

You don’t know how because it’s not possible.

The company you are at will NEVER give you a raise from 55 to 75k.

Companies will always pay significantly more to hire outside than they will to promote within.

All you can do is take you’re new title at you’re current company and leverage that title for a new, significantly higher salary and new company.


Tldr

You’ve outgrown your current company and it’s time to move on. There’s no other option

[MikeLowrrrey]

You don’t know how because it’s not possible.

The company you are at will NEVER give you a raise from 55 to 75k.

Companies will always pay significantly more to hire outside than they will to promote within.

All you can do is take you’re new title at you’re current company and leverage that title for a new, significantly higher salary and new company.


Tldr

You’ve outgrown your current company and it’s time to move on. There’s no other option

I feel like I'd be dropping a bomb on them if I left. Best I could do is 3 weeks notice. They should be able to find someone in that time frame

[rectifryer]

You don’t know how because it’s not possible.

The company you are at will NEVER give you a raise from 55 to 75k.

Companies will always pay significantly more to hire outside than they will to promote within.

All you can do is take you’re new title at you’re current company and leverage that title for a new, significantly higher salary and new company.


Tldr

You’ve outgrown your current company and it’s time to move on. There’s no other option

this

Why bother if theyre so willing to stiff you.

[DarthCholo]

3 step process.

First of all. It's not negotiation. Negotiation is when your salary is unknown and you're settling on one together.

You already have a salary and so you are leveraging.

First leverage point, pay me more money or I'm looking for another job.

Second leverage point, pay me more money or I'm taking thus other offer

Third step, not a leverage point, bluffs are called or caved. You take the other offer or get paid more.

do not do this unless you're actually willing to leave

This is the right advice. I wouldn't tell them you're looking or wanting higher pay. Everybody wants more by default. you telling them isn't new information, it's just being annoying. They don't care what you think you deserve. They only care about what they actually have to pay you.

Around mid year, or yearly reviews, if you're talking about career path and growth, there's an opportunity to safely express a desire to do more valuable work and bring up the additional pay that comes with it being the goal. Most people are not smooth enough to do this properly and instead will burn the bridge and once your employee thinks you're not happy they'll start to analyze your performance and attitude with a negative slant.

[blazenbb]

I feel like I'd be dropping a bomb on them if I left. Best I could do is 3 weeks notice. They should be able to find someone in that time frame

Lmao at being afraid to drop a bomb at a 55k/yr job that you feel underpaid at

[DarthCholo]

I feel like I'd be dropping a bomb on them if I left. Best I could do is 3 weeks notice. They should be able to find someone in that time frame

when it comes to notice, some people say screw notice periods, and tell you to quit on the spot without notice. After all when they fire you, they don't give you notice, they just do it. However you want to keep networks in good standing and you never know when a former boss moves to some new company and would want to recruit you. If you're honest about it being about pay, they will understand and if you give 2 weeks notice, you'll be in their good graces.

[MikeLowrrrey]

Lmao at being afraid to drop a bomb at a 55k/yr job that you feel underpaid at

Yeah I know, it's a genuine good company though. If it was some meat grinder company I'd feel different.

when it comes to notice, some people say screw notice periods, and tell you to quit on the spot without notice. After all when they fire you, they don't give you notice, they just do it. However you want to keep networks in good standing and you never know when a former boss moves to some new company and would want to recruit you. If you're honest about it being about pay, they will understand and if you give 2 weeks notice, you'll be in their good graces.

Burning bridges in the construction industry is the worst thing you can do. Legit would have to move to another city LOL.

[Destor]

It’s pretty unusual to get big increases internally, you generally need to hop.

I worked for one company for five years right out of college, everyone there thought I walked on water and it still didn’t matter — think I got like 3% over five years.

Applied for other jobs, went in to negotiate, got a bit of a bump but two weeks later got a call back from one of the companies I applied to and offering a much larger increase. So I left, took the new job, it was like a 30% jump.

Hopped again not long after because of issues in the company, got another big increase.

An old manager at the first company called me up in 2021, spent the last few years legit making double what I was when I left simply because I moved around. If I had stayed this whole time, I’d still be making about the same.

[anonkunbrah]

You get a new job that pays more

[yieldtonothing]

you use bischoff and turner as leverage

[BorderlineBrahh]

Just ask for a little bump.

[6gorillion]

You don’t know how because it’s not possible.

The company you are at will NEVER give you a raise from 55 to 75k.

Companies will always pay significantly more to hire outside than they will to promote within.

All you can do is take you’re new title at you’re current company and leverage that title for a new, significantly higher salary and new company.


Tldr

You’ve outgrown your current company and it’s time to move on. There’s no other option

I accepted a counter offer than gave me a 35K raise

[tripod29]

Have you ever considered working full time? 55k sounds like part time work. Ask your employer if any full time positions are open and that would at a minimum get you to $110k. Still below average but would be a game changer for you.

[Bigbuster1]

I accepted a counter offer than gave me a 35K raise

Op said he already did that once less than two years ago…

You think the company he is at is just going to keep giving him huge raises every two years?

Employers are banking on the people who value “job security” and “loyalty” to stick around at less than market rate.

Trust me OP you are 100% replaceable, just like every other employee.

This is how it’s done now. Take your new tittle and responsibilities and get offers for a new job at a new company.

If you want to show that to your current company to match, that’s on you. But I think it’s time to move on.

You’re just going to be stuck at the same role in your current company because they know you as someone who’s trying to push them to for huge raises.


If they want loyalty from you they should offer benefits: health insurance, retirement, pension, legit 401 k, path to equity in the company etc


It’s a two way street.

[ectobruh]

By LEAVING

[Godfrd824]

Tell them you're worth $75k, bring proof that shows you're worth that much. They'll either give you the raise or tell you to F off. If they tell you to F off, find another job.

[6gorillion]

Op said he already did that once less than two years ago…

You think the company he is at is just going to keep giving him huge raises every two years?

Employers are banking on the people who value “job security” and “loyalty” to stick around at less than market rate.

Trust me OP you are 100% replaceable, just like every other employee.

This is how it’s done now. Take your new tittle and responsibilities and get offers for a new job at a new company.

If you want to show that to your current company to match, that’s on you. But I think it’s time to move on.

You’re just going to be stuck at the same role in your current company because they know you as someone who’s trying to push them to for huge raises.


If they want loyalty from you they should offer benefits: health insurance, retirement, pension, legit 401 k, path to equity in the company etc


It’s a two way street.

Oh, I didn't see lol.

OP what field are you in? Are your skills in demand right now? What's your title?

[radrd]

Be honest with them. Advise them that you are seeking employment with a higher pay grade. However, also tell them that you enjoy this company and would prefer not to leave.


Then, keep your fingers crossed. If nothing happens, leave.

This. And start looking before you tell them. Don't start working on your resume after you tell them you have one foot out the door. You might mysteriously find yourself on the wrong end of a layoff or re-org that surely has nothing to do with your disclosure.