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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Red Herring.
    Never once did I say physician although most that are performing these surgeries are doing it without proper treatment of the child first ie: psychiatric help.

    The drugs themselves absolve suicidal thoughts & depression as they have shown to do.
    So once again, prescribing drugs to cover the symptoms is not addressing the cause.
    You said providing GAHT justifies a mental illness, then defined justification as meaning to absolve.

    As shown in the definitions above, absolve is an archaic use of justify. Regardless, absolve means to remove blame or forgive.

    Physicians prescribe and administer GAHT. Their profession does not function to remove blame nor to forgive. They do not absolve nor justify their patients' conditions.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    You said providing GAHT justifies a mental illness, then defined justification as meaning to absolve.

    As shown in the definitions above, absolve is an archaic use of justify. Regardless, absolve means to remove blame or forgive.

    Physicians prescribe and administer GAHT. Their profession does not function to remove blame nor to forgive. They do not absolve nor justify their patients' conditions.
    Did you read the definition I posted?

    Here it is again..



    to free someone of responsibility for something.


    The responsible action would be to place a person that is in a state of dysphoria into psychiatric care, not give them drugs that mask their condition by placing them in a state of euphoria.

    They absolutely absolve their patients conditions by the very nature of the drugs they administer
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Did you read the definition I posted?

    Here it is again..

    to free someone of responsibility for something.


    The responsible action would be to place a person that is in a state of dysphoria into psychiatric care, not give them drugs that mask their condition by placing them in a state of euphoria.

    They absolutely absolve their patients conditions by the very nature of the drugs they administer
    I disagree that they are responsible for their condition.

    They receive psychiatric care. Hormones are part of the treatment.

    Conversion therapy doesn't work nor help.

    Physicians do not remove responsibility by treating. Medicine is neither religion nor law.

    Lol at state of euphoria.
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    I disagree that they are responsible for their condition.

    They receive psychiatric care. Hormones are part of the treatment.

    Conversion therapy doesn't work nor help.

    Physicians do not remove responsibility by treating. Medicine is neither religion nor law.
    They are responsible for the drugs they administer

    Hormones mask the condition

    Never claimed it did. Psychiatric help, and above all God is the ultimate healer

    Medicine has absolutely become a religion in which the perpetrators of it declare it law...you would be one of those
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    They are responsible for the drugs they administer

    Hormones mask the condition
    So?

    That's their responsibility.

    It has nothing to do with removing patients' responsibility for their condition.

    Mask the condition? Seems like the opposite
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    So?

    That's their responsibility.

    It has nothing to do with removing patients' responsibility for their condition.

    Mask the condition? Seems like the opposite
    You claimed it wasn’t their responsibility though.. confused are you??


    How would it be the opposite when only the symptom of dysphoria is temporarily masked and the cause is never addressed?

    Explain..
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    You claimed it wasn’t their responsibility though.. confused are you??


    How would it be the opposite when only the symptom of dysphoria is temporarily masked and the cause is never addressed?

    Explain..
    No.

    I said physicians can't, and don't, remove patients' responsibility for their conditions nor, or do, they forgive their patients for having a condition.

    Hard to mask/hide feeling like a gender that differs from sex when one takes masculinizing or feminizing hormones to change their appearance. Rather, it puts it right out there on display
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    Originally Posted by J.L.C. View Post
    No.

    I said physicians can't, and don't, remove patients' responsibility for their conditions can, or do, they forgive their patients for having a condition.

    Hard to mask/hide feeling like a gender that differs from sex when one takes masculinizing or feminizing hormones to change their appearance. Rather, it puts it right out there on display
    You think taking something to build muscle is the same as gender dysphoria?

    Seems to me one is showcasing the traits of a person’s biological gender while the other is denying it.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    You think taking something to build muscle is the same as gender dysphoria?

    Seems to me one is showcasing the traits of a person’s biological gender while the other is denying it.
    Are you conceding on the ineffective and more dangerous arguments?
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