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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    I know it’s just one guy, but there are other interviews out there giving the same sentiment, that channel has a couple. Personally I’ve always felt it’s all rigged. Sure you’ll have the ref that might be paid off, players betting on the team, themselves (Pete Rose) but I think it’s too much money involved for there to be no manipulation.
    For awhile it seemed whenever a team got a new stadium or a natural disaster occurred..they/the city would win the World Series or SuperBowl within a couple years out. (9/11-Yankees, Katrina-Saints, etc)
    But you know me, I see CT in everything. Watching the Chiefs game last week, I knew there was no question we’d be seeing Swift in the Super Bowl cheering for her “man”..read the other day that something like over 20% of her fan base would vote the same as her just because she would do so. Granted you may have overlap of these people that listen to her would have the same views regardless, but the powers that be don’t waste opportunities like this. Her boyfriend is pretty much the Pfizer spokesman at this point & Swift is a representative of the Biden admin.
    LOL Paul, I am always sceptical of fixing anytime big money is involved.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Watching the Chiefs game last week, I knew there was no question we’d be seeing Swift in the Super Bowl cheering for her “man”
    Yeah, pretty crazy to watch the defending Super Bowl Champion, who has been to 3 out the last 4, with a probable top 5 all-time QB, and arguably the greatest play-calling coach ever, make it to the Super Bowl.


    read the other day that something like over 20% of her fan base would vote the same as her just because she would do so. Granted you may have overlap of these people that listen to her would have the same views regardless, but the powers that be don’t waste opportunities like this. Her boyfriend is pretty much the Pfizer spokesman at this point & Swift is a representative of the Biden admin.
    So famous pop star endorsement from the Super Bowl winner will swing elections that happen in November, which is the middle of next year's NFL season.

    Luckly the city that will save us from the evil, socialist Democrats is... San Francisco?
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    Yeah, pretty crazy to watch the defending Super Bowl Champion, who has been to 3 out the last 4, with a probable top 5 all-time QB, and arguably the greatest play-calling coach ever, make it to the Super Bowl.
    I know, who would have ever predicted that KC would make it back to the Superbowl in 2024....

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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    Yeah, pretty crazy to watch the defending Super Bowl Champion, who has been to 3 out the last 4, with a probable top 5 all-time QB, and arguably the greatest play-calling coach ever, make it to the Super Bowl.




    So famous pop star endorsement from the Super Bowl winner will swing elections that happen in November, which is the middle of next year's NFL season.

    Luckly the city that will save us from the evil, socialist Democrats is... San Francisco?
    I guess you didn’t listen to the video..defending SuperBowl champion..that was rigged all along…so why should as it come as a surprise there is fukery going on again lol.
    But yeah, Swift is completely authentic, as with her relationship. When they come out & tell you to vote blue no matter who, & take your jabs..just be that sheep we know you are.
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    I guess you didn’t listen to the video..defending SuperBowl champion..that was rigged all along…so why should as it come as a surprise there is fukery going on again lol.
    But yeah, Swift is completely authentic, as with her relationship. When they come out & tell you to vote blue no matter who, & take your jabs..just be that sheep we know you are.
    Oh I did listen to it and commented on it above. It was a bit incoherent but his main argument seemed to be if you are the best team in the NFL you have to win otherwise it’s scripted by Vegas, but at the same time the NFL is real because Tom Brady’s kickers make kicks and Jim Kelly’s don’t, home field advantage means nothing, but the NFL is fixed because the Bucs hosted the Super Bowl.

    It would be interesting to hear his explanation of how Vegas scripts miraculous impossible to be planned plays, happening the way they did that decided the winner. How can vegas script the helmet catch. How can it script the Manmingham catch. The Edelman catch. Those 3 plays, without them the other team wins. They can’t assume a ball will be tipped and then caught by Edelman around 3 defenders running at 15 mph. They cant script Manning throwing a ball to Manningham 50 yards into a 10 inch window. You can’t script that and expect it to happen.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    Oh I did listen to it and commented on it above. It was a bit incoherent but his main argument seemed to be if you are the best team in the NFL you have to win otherwise it’s scripted by Vegas, but at the same time the NFL is real because Tom Brady’s kickers make kicks and Jim Kelly’s don’t, home field advantage means nothing, but the NFL is fixed because the Bucs hosted the Super Bowl.

    It would be interesting to hear his explanation of how Vegas scripts miraculous impossible to be planned plays, happening the way they did that decided the winner. How can vegas script the helmet catch. How can it script the Manmingham catch. The Edelman catch. Those 3 plays, without them the other team wins. They can’t assume a ball will be tipped and then caught by Edelman around 3 defenders running at 15 mph. They cant script Manning throwing a ball to Manningham 50 yards into a 10 inch window. You can’t script that and expect it to happen.
    Are you sure you listened? He stated they knew the plays before even getting in the field..it’s scripted. There is no possible way you can watch the last Chiefs game & not realize this. Vegas is just a small aspect on what is already nothing more than a WWF play being acted out.
    But I’ll trust you bro, some random dude on the internet rather than a SuperBowl MVP telling exactly how it is. Sure thing. Lol
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Are you sure you listened? He stated they knew the plays before even getting in the field..it’s scripted. There is no possible way you can watch the last Chiefs game & not realize this. Vegas is just a small aspect on what is already nothing more than a WWF play being acted out.
    But I’ll trust you bro, some random dude on the internet rather than a SuperBowl MVP telling exactly how it is. Sure thing. Lol
    First, the Bucs knew the plays because the Raiders were basically running John Gruden’s offense who was now coaching the Bucs. Per Rich Gannon, Raiders QB, at the time

    Gannon said he believes the fact that the Raiders didn't change the verbiage on offensive calls that Gruden installed for the team big factor in Oakland's loss.

    "So much of our verbiage and terminology was a carryover from what Jon Gruden had installed in terms of our run checks, and so we were calling certain plays and guys like Warren Sapp and Derrick Brooks were calling out the runs. So it kind of took us out of our no-huddle plan at the line of scrimmage," Gannon said in the interview.
    Second, Smith, your star witness, said in the interview every single Super Bowl winner was determined by who Vegas wanted to win; seems like a pretty integral part. So, when do you think Vegas determines who they want to win? Beginning of the year, midway, start of the playoffs? And are all games predetermined as in the WWE or just the Super Bowl? And how many people (owners, players, coaches, officials) do you think would need to be involved to guarantee the correct team wins?
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    First, the Bucs knew the plays because the Raiders were basically running John Gruden’s offense who was now coaching the Bucs. Per Rich Gannon, Raiders QB, at the time



    Second, Smith, your star witness, said in the interview every single Super Bowl winner was determined by who Vegas wanted to win; seems like a pretty integral part. So, when do you think Vegas determines who they want to win? Beginning of the year, midway, start of the playoffs? And are all games predetermined as in the WWE or just the Super Bowl? And how many people (owners, players, coaches, officials) do you think would need to be involved to guarantee the correct team wins?
    He stated they hadn’t run those plays all year but all of a sudden they are in SB…& had full knowledge of it. Why would that be.
    You don’t need everyone paid off, a couple refs, coaches, & the plays revealed..money buys silence. This is a multi million dollar industry, there is no possible way they are leaving it to chance. Have a look all throughout that channel & many like it..all the players can’t be lying..& why would they?
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    He stated they hadn’t run those plays all year but all of a sudden they are in SB…& had full knowledge of it. Why would that be.
    If this were true and they were running plays in the Super Bowl they hadn’t run all year, don’t you think at least a few of the Raider players would question this after the game? Especially if they were plays that would be obvious to the other team’s coach? A quick google search shows there were some complaints (mainly from Tim Brown) about switching the game plan from a run heavy attack to a pass heavy one, but there is no mention of them using play calls that hadn’t used at all that year. Seems like that would come up at some point. Unless of course all 52 players were aware of the “fix”.

    You don’t need everyone paid off, a couple refs, coaches, & the plays revealed..money buys silence. This is a multi million dollar industry, there is no possible way they are leaving it to chance. Have a look all throughout that channel & many like it..all the players can’t be lying..& why would they?
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    If this were true and they were running plays in the Super Bowl they hadn’t run all year, don’t you think at least a few of the Raider players would question this after the game? Especially if they were plays that would be obvious to the other team’s coach? A quick google search shows there were some complaints (mainly from Tim Brown) about switching the game plan from a run heavy attack to a pass heavy one, but there is no mention of them using play calls that hadn’t used at all that year. Seems like that would come up at some point. Unless of course all 52 players were aware of the “fix”.



    Who is “they”?
    Not really, all you need are the coaches to know the plays, head, offense, defense to call the counters…and maybe a few key players in on it. Why would these players that have come out lie? What is to be gained?
    Look if you want to believe everyone is on the up & up, that’s your choice, I’ve seen enough & heard from enough people that are actually in the system to believe otherwise
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Not really, all you need are the coaches to know the plays, head, offense, defense to call the counters…and maybe a few key players in on it. Why would these players that have come out lie? What is to be gained?
    Look if you want to believe everyone is on the up & up, that’s your choice, I’ve seen enough & heard from enough people that are actually in the system to believe otherwise
    So in this particular instance you think it would just be a coach or two and a few players? You don't think any of the other 50+ players on the team, in what could possibly be the biggest game of their career, would have an issue with the coaches decision on play calling?

    And again, who is “they”? Who is pulling the strings on all this?
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    So in this particular instance you think it would just be a coach or two and a few players? You don't think any of the other 50+ players on the team, in what could possibly be the biggest game of their career, would have an issue with the coaches decision on play calling?

    And again, who is “they”? Who is pulling the strings on all this?
    Last I checked it is the offensive, defensive, head coach, & sometimes the QB..calling the plays..no.

    “They”..are the chairman/head of any major sports league in America.

    Why would all these players lie?
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    Last I checked it is the offensive, defensive, head coach, & sometimes the QB..calling the plays..no.
    Yes, that is who generally calls the plays. But Smith said they were running plays they hadn’t run all year that also happened use the same verbiage as the opposing coach. You don’t think that decision to suddenly switch to a set of offensive plays that haven't been installed all year (if that is even possible) into the Super Bowl game plan wouldn’t be an issue for at least a few players after a loss?

    “They”..are the chairman/head of any major sports league in America.
    Why would they? The risk vs reward wouldn't be worth it for a systemic wide game rigging in an organization as large and under the microscope as the NFL.


    Why would all these players lie?
    I have no idea but your whole thought process seems to be this is true because “why would they lie about it?
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    Yes, that is who generally calls the plays. But Smith said they were running plays they hadn’t run all year that also happened use the same verbiage as the opposing coach. You don’t think that decision to suddenly switch to a set of offensive plays that haven't been installed all year (if that is even possible) into the Super Bowl game plan wouldn’t be an issue for at least a few players after a loss?



    Why would they? The risk vs reward wouldn't be worth it for a systemic wide game rigging in an organization as large and under the microscope as the NFL.




    I have no idea but your whole thought process seems to be this is true because “why would they lie about it?
    No my whole thought process is true because the guy playing the actual game on the field is telling you this is how it is..
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    Originally Posted by Paul Kreul View Post
    No my whole thought process is true because the guy playing the actual game on the field is telling you this is how it is..
    Ok, you aren’t answering the basic question so I guess we will end with that. Well one more question, since you are so certain these games are scripted for a predetermined winner, what percentage of your savings will you be betting on this game?
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    Ok, you aren’t answering the basic question so I guess we will end with that. Well one more question, since you are so certain these games are scripted for a predetermined winner, what percentage of your savings will you be betting on this game?
    I’m not interested in betting. Look man, if you want to convince yourself that it’s not rigged, that’s on you. Eat your Doritos, drink your bud light & clap like seal they trained you to be. not much more I can say
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    I’m not interested in betting. Look man, if you want to convince yourself that it’s not rigged, that’s on you. Eat your Doritos, drink your bud light & clap like seal they trained you to be. not much more I can say
    Is it even gambling if you know the result beforehand? You are just saying no to free money.
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    The real conspiracy is why everything on the internet has to be redirected towards the American political battle of the geriatrics. Taylor swift conspiracies could be easily spun up without once mentioning Sleepy Joe or the Angry Orange. She comes from old banker money. Let’s do better and try to be a bit more creative with our nut show. TIA.
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    The real conspiracy is why everything on the internet has to be redirected towards the American political battle of the geriatrics. Taylor swift conspiracies could be easily spun up without once mentioning Sleepy Joe or the Angry Orange. She comes from old banker money. Let’s do better and try to be a bit more creative with our nut show. TIA.









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    Yeah, sorry about that. Apparently just another failed attempt at humor on my part. I promise IRL I am a fckn riot, but unfortunately my comedic genius doesn’t always translate well in short forum posts.
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    Yeah, sorry about that. Apparently just another failed attempt at humor on my part. I promise IRL I am a fckn riot, but unfortunately my comedic genius doesn’t always translate well in short forum posts.


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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    I laugh at just about all your posts.

    Everything is a joke until it isn’t, like for instance I always get the last bag of Dave’s Killer bagels. Last night they were out, my luck ran out, or did it? I decided to get a loaf of Dave’s Killer Powerseed bread. Been eating it all day in between lifting, is that a joke to the bodybuilders? Well chit I’ve been demolishing PRs all fricking day!!!!
    Dave’s is good bread. But if you compare labels - the macros are the same as plenty of other brands. But I buy it more because it is going to a good cause. The company hires those with criminal backgrounds and offers second chances. They started a foundation that uses proceeds to inform businesses who are hesitant to hire people with a criminal history, working to reduce stigma around it, and hopefully help in reducing recidivism. It’s a pretty cool company and I like supporting them. In addition to the bread being pretty good.
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