https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htmTotal nonfarm payroll employment increased by 199,000 in November, and the unemployment rate edged down to 3.7 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Job gains occurred in health care and government. Employment also increased in manufacturing, reflecting the return of workers from a strike. Employment in retail trade declined."
Honestly giving hats off to Biden here. He worked with the fed, let them raise rates appropriately (unlike Trump who cried about a 25 basis point increase), and did his part with Congress reaching across the aisle. Yes he's old, we get it, but you can't argue with results. I'd rather have an old president than a lunatic who cries about 25 basis point rate hikes.
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12-08-2023, 06:44 AM #1
Unemployment rate down to 3.7% vs. expected 3.9%; Biden PRAISED for soft landing
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You realize low unemployment numbers are actually antithesis to the Fed's goal of raising rates, yes? It's a signal that the Fed needs to raise rates more, because interest rate hikes should theoretically depress the economy.
The fact that it's still somehow going down should tell you that the unemployment numbers are actually BS.
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The main issue is that we kept rates near zero under our bans to give to illusion that the economy wasn’t a dumpster fire. We were set up for disaster, but trumps policies brought the economy back to life. The fed immediately starting raising rates to stifle growth, during a time when China was manipulating their currency, etc. so trumps gripes were well founded. The rates needed to rise, but not at the rate that the fed insisted.
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Everyone working 2nd and 3rd jobs to keep the lights on probably helps those numbers
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The economy was already getting back on track before Trump. The issue is that he kept his foot on the gas with unnecessary policy that stimulated the economy at a time where it wasn't needed. The fed was forced to step in at that point.
The problem with Trump is that he only cares about himself and his own legacy. He doesn't give a sh*t about doing the right thing. This is why I've been praising Biden recently - he accepted what needed to be done despite the impact it could have on his legacy. This is ZERO chance Trump would have reacted positively to this like Biden has.Anti identity politics crew
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12-08-2023, 08:57 AM #14
In our current global economic environment, lower unemployment is a bad thing because it means that rate cuts could be further out and rates can stay higher for longer, that means mortgage rates stay high and markets top out until the economy starts showing signs of stress and/or inflation goes below 2%, if inflation goes below 2% with the economy never showing signs of stress then you can say we have had a soft landing.
I don't think so.
The fed could have stopped raising rates in 2022 and still KO inflation but instead, they officially triggered economic reversal in Nov of 2022 when they did an additional .75 hike, what we need is for the government to stop spending, for the fed to cut rates and for China to reopen... or a supply side president.
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Elon Musk accuses Fed of 'looking in the rearview mirror' with rate hikes
Elon Musk issued a stern warning this week to the Federal Reserve as it embarks on one of the most aggressive campaigns in decades to crush out-of-control inflation.
The U.S. central bank, he said, is raising interest rates too high, too quickly – even though the Tesla CEO believes the economy has entered a period of deflation.
"There's more deflation than inflation," Musk said on Wednesday during Tesla's third-quarter earnings call. "I'm going to make this point over and over again to the Fed, and the Fed is not listening because they're looking at the rearview mirror instead of looking out the front windshield."
The wealthiest man(LOL) in the world first expressed concern in September that the Fed risks deflation with its rapid rate hikes, and called on policymakers to cut rates by 25 basis points.
Instead, the Fed voted to lift the benchmark federal funds rate by 75 basis points, the third straight hike of that magnitude. Officials have shown no signs of slowing down, with the Fed's benchmark currently in a target range of 3% to 3.25% – near restrictive territories.
Policymakers are widely expected to approve a fourth straight 75-basis-point hike when they next meet in early November.
In a troubling development, however, the Fed's rate hikes have thus far failed to tame inflation: The government reported last week that the consumer price index soared 8.2% in September from the previous year, faster than expected. Even more concerning, core prices – which exclude more volatile measurements of food and gas – jumped 6.6%, the fastest since 1982.
That indicates the Fed will have to continue charting its aggressive course, raising the odds that it will crush consumer demand and cause unemployment to rise.
Musk is just the latest CEO to sound the alarm over the deteriorating U.S. economy. JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos and Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon have all expressed concern that the U.S. is headed for a recession as a result of higher interest rates.
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High interest rates means small businesses and the middle class gets screwed. Only large corporations can manage. Small businesses and middle class people wanting to own a home get locked into perpetual debt slavery to keep afloat, which benefits big banks.
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Lol.
Posted that in Jan of this year.
I've predicted where the fed should take rates for a soft landing, where they are actually going to take them, when they will cut rates and where they will cut them to. I've made so many spot on economic predictions on this forum that you literally could have gotten rich by following my posts. Called the correction in Sep 2021 to the day, called the crash in 2022, called the boom in 2023 and I have already said what would happen in 2024(though adjustments must be made do the fed starting skipping every other meeting instead of raising until terminal).
I think a lot of folks missed out on some of the content I provide because I'm also very inflammatory and I'm willing to call out anyone.
I do that on purpose online and offline because I know what I am offering is special and I want to know you deserve it.
Think about like tax loopholes, they are available to all but utilized by few, this allows the cream to rise to the top.
I'm only saying this now because I won't be here much longer and I want to allow more people the chance to expand their base of knowledge.
Posted that in Dec 2021 just prior to the crash lol
No wonder folks didn't listen lol
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