You don’t believe that stifling energy production and adding massive regulations to the markets would have an inflationary affect?
BTW, extremely low unemployment could also be an indication of not being close to full production. Full production and efficiency has a tendency to cause some unemployment. Full employment means that production is not at full efficiency. For example, creating labor where it is not needed causes production to slow and increase prices and decrease supply.
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12-08-2023, 03:04 PM #61One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
"To Call something fair or unfair is a subjective value judgment and not liable to any verification" Ludwig Von Mises
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12-08-2023, 03:06 PM #62
We are at record domestic energy production boyo. And explain how adding "massive regulations" can impact the US economy in less than 3 months. Did he declare that all prices double or something?
The cause of inflation is clear, too much money chasing too few goods. Trump flooded the country with money while screwing up supply chains causing shortages. Pretty simple if you look at it logically friend.
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12-08-2023, 03:11 PM #64
LMFAO. Know what none of those presidents did? FLood the country with soo much money in such a short period of time WHILE destroying supply chains and creating shortages. Do you think the toilet paper shortage Trump created made prices go down? Remember all those ships that couldn't dock?
And Inflation is a lagging indicator cultist. Please explain how inflation increased .28% from January to February and .94% from February to March and 1.54% from March to April.
I know you can't be serious. Even cultist aren't this freaking dumb. Inflation increased 87% from January to March. Did Biden signing the bill magically make US inflation almost double from two months prior in the month he signed the bill?
Just lol at you cultist
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12-08-2023, 03:19 PM #69
Please explain to me how Biden is responsible for inflation? Do you believe it came about in the first months of his presidency due to his actions?
And yes, presidents are responsible for what they can control. The prior presidents actions impact the next president's first year quite bigly. After that the actions of the new president have had time to percolate their way through the economy. ie. inflation under control = Biden's doing. Inflation creation = Trump's doing.
See how easy that is?
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12-08-2023, 03:22 PM #72
We get it. You discovered that the money supply affects inflation, but didn’t do much more economic study to learn more about the causes of inflation. Government spending and energy supply and costs. Energy companies will increase prices to prevent future losses. If the president signs an EO that adds heavy regulations, prices will immediately start going up in anticipation of the estimated losses. Energy is used for everything, therefore, it causes inflation of a different kind.
It’s important to also read up on bottlenecks, how they are created, and their outcomes.One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
"To Call something fair or unfair is a subjective value judgment and not liable to any verification" Ludwig Von Mises
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12-08-2023, 03:40 PM #76
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Honestly, how intellectually dishonest do you have to be to praise the current economic climate? We all lived through Trump, and our individual purchasing power **** on this. No amount of fake statistics and doctored numbers changes what we all individually witnessed.
But hey, no mean tweets and more tranny power. Yay
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12-08-2023, 06:54 PM #81
What I find so interesting about the Fed, as well as progressive economists, is that they will run victory laps before all of the monetary policies have played out. Always keep in mind, as long as the fed keeps interfering and making changes, the government keeps spending money etc, all of those things have to "resolve" before we see the end result. It's very possible that we don't see this in its entirety until 2024. It's very possible that we are still going to go into recession, possibly even a depression. And wouldn't it be convenient if the fed has pushed this off until a Republican candidate is in office. There is never a boom without a bust.
One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
"To Call something fair or unfair is a subjective value judgment and not liable to any verification" Ludwig Von Mises
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12-08-2023, 07:52 PM #83
The University of Michigan does surveys to gauge the consumers. The survey asks about their financial situations, how they FEEL about the economy, and their outlook. It's based on subjectiveness of the consumer, but the consumer is who matters in an economy when it comes to demand.
The recent survey found that most were still not in a position to purchase durable goods, like refrigerators, furniture, and TVs. Interest rates are still high, so financing is out, and the consumer generally feels that the prices of durable goods are still too high. So contrary to your post, how the consumer FEELS has a huge impact on how healthy the economy is. In fact, the Biden regime changed the largely agreed upon measure of recession, and made it based on how the consumer feels, then turned around and pretended it was based on these other economic measures. Things aren't going their way, so they have to keep changing how it's measured.
So maybe you should stop pretending. This is a repeat of all of the COVIDcels telling everyone to "FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!", when there was no science, and they just went along with whatever the bureaucrats and politicians told them.One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
"To Call something fair or unfair is a subjective value judgment and not liable to any verification" Ludwig Von Mises
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12-08-2023, 07:58 PM #84
Stats written by people who love Biden.
Here is the reality, most people won't read statistics like this. They will base their judgement on what they see.
Rent is falling? It's down? It's still really high.
Wages up? Maybe but not keeping up with inflation. they have less buying power now than previous years.
Food still insanely high.
Stock market, it's been up since whenver, 99% of it is the ultra rich.
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12-08-2023, 08:34 PM #88
Yes, but this is where the history of economics comes in. Many people make malinvestments under artificial economic conditions. When the bust comes, correction, or recession, whatever you want to call it, those same individuals end up having to liquidate because suddenly they realize they made bad investments and what they were seeing wasn't real.
I explained this in my economics thread. I recommend you read it.One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
Hayek and Mises were right; they're all socialists.
"To Call something fair or unfair is a subjective value judgment and not liable to any verification" Ludwig Von Mises
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12-08-2023, 08:40 PM #89
no mass layoffs in 2019, income compared to inflation means most people are actually making less compared to 2019. How the **** can there be more "Career Opportunities" under Biden when many sectors are bleeding jobs by the hundreds of thousands every month and they have enacted hiring freezes.
Last edited by 6gorillion; 12-08-2023 at 08:46 PM.
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12-08-2023, 08:45 PM #90
Most sectors are really tight under Biden to the point it's actually possible for most young people to get a decent job in this economy. It hasn't been like that since the late 90's srs. Some sectors are doing worse than others like tech, but that's pretty much recovered now. Check out some of the major tech stocks like Meta.
I hate capitalism srs
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