How would someone with 2 years of MMA training do against a really good boxer?

[BornagaininUES]

Say the fight is a straight-up MMA type of fight where kicks and takedowns go.

How would someone with 2 years of MMA training at a legit gym do against a really good boxer that isn't pro but is pretty good?

[bicmane123]

theres a million different ways this can go.

most likely, MMA guy will recognize the boxer has hands, goes for a take down. and wins.

[Kraken]

“Pretty good” is a bit subjective, but let’s say he’s not pro but has been seriously training for 5-6 years and has talent. I would say, you better be damn fast and talented yourself. If you look at the power of a boxer’s punch, it’s significant compared to other fighting styles. You could be knocked out in the first few seconds. Boxing is specialized with defense and offense. MMA doesn’t specialize, which means it’s not quite as effective at blocking or throwing punches.

It’s always difficult to make a judgement call like this in an MMA scenario though. You could get lucky and get him down really fast. Either way, you need to be damn good at defense.

[BornagaininUES]

theres a million different ways this can go.

most likely, MMA guy will recognize the boxer has hands, goes for a take down. and wins.

How hard would it be to get a takedown on a boxer with fast hands though?

[blindsideflank]

How hard would it be to get a takedown on a boxer with fast hands though?

Not hard. a strict boxer doesn't have a stance that defends takedowns nor do they have the instinct to avoid standing grappling. Think how easy it is in fights for an injured boxer to step into his opponent and hold him with em what is essentially double underhooks. Anyone that has trained mma for 2 years takes that boxer down 100% of the time if the get there.

Negating superior striking skills momentarily isn't that hard in mma because you have so many options. It's similar to BJJ where and very skilled (not talking world champ) practitioner can usually be stopped from submitting a weaker person for several minutes if they just posture and don't overextend their arms. Add in the ability stile them and it really negates things.

To easily beat someone quickly a discipline generally requires you to be light years ahead of them in skill. That's why mma is so great, because it levels the field against those who have been in on discipline their whole lives. But when someone does truly dominate with their discipline it is so special (pereira, khabib, etc. or the first person that comes to my mind is karo pariysan and his judo).

[Sergis]

oblique kick comes to mind

especially on a boxer jab with the knee turning sideways

dont be a strickland vs pereira and you win

[sooby]

can go 1000 different ways,

either you get the takedown, or his lightning fast hands, good technique and punching power leaves you face down ass up

[Cartiac]

Say the fight is a straight-up MMA type of fight where kicks and takedowns go.

How would someone with 2 years of MMA training at a legit gym do against a really good boxer that isn't pro but is pretty good?

probably get KO'ed pretty fast. Assuming that 2 years of training is starting from complete scratch you are not going to have effective offensive wrestling skills to execute take downs or navigate his strikes. Basic take down defense comes much faster than the ability to execute take downs so it won't be hard for the boxer to keep the fight standing and unless you just have very heavy hands naturally you are going to have a tough time striking against a really good boxer. If you have a previous wrestling base then it is likely a different story.

[stayhomeneet]

It's far too loose a question

How good is the "pretty good" boxer exactly?

Also, boxing in and of itself has many different styles.

Is he a stationary counterpuncher? A swarmer? Stick and move artist with good feet? Long range jabber with massive reach? Bob and weave style with fast feet?

It depends on the two individuals involved, usually I'd back the guy with MMA experience but there's some guys in MMA who have absoloutley terrible ground game and are 90% stand up who would get absoloutley ****ing wrecked by a Mike Tyson or a George Foreman style guy.

If it's a street fight question, ANY trained fighter of ANY discipline is ****ing dangerous to fight in a street fight and it's a stupid idea to risk it.

[mrtheend]

Pretty good in boxing is world class in opinion Great boxers are determined by how many Hall of Fame fighters they have beaten in their prime. Pretty good boxers just have world championships for short periods of time. All boxers know of MMA. The secret is out since 93. If any boxer is willing to go into an MMA style match they will be at least prepared for a takedown. Avoiding a takedown varies. If you watch MMA, simple footwork and a fencing blow like a jab can avoid a lot of takedowns. BJ Penn would use simple boxing techniques to put world class grapplers at a distance to not even touch him.

Now a leg kick is almost always money in the bank. Until you break your own shin.

[latverian41]

"as with all living things. Each according to his gifts"

[latverian41]

How hard would it be to get a takedown on a boxer with fast hands though?

A grass hopper step much like a bong sau can be a save your azz move

[iloveus]