Self-defense is on its way out. It seems the stars have to align for your life to be warranted protection.
Imagine relaxing in your own home either alone or with your family and someone breaks in. You have to whip out the "do-i-have-the-right-to defend myself chart"
I'll admit he didn't need to execute them after they were incapacitated, but still, that situation could've been anything & it seems to only apply to the victims.
As the old saying goes, rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.1) Man's house burglarized 12 times prior
2) Police of no help, so he waits in basement with gun
3) Shoots and kills 2 career thieves one after the other
4) 2 life sentences
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11-07-2023, 12:09 PM #1
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11-07-2023, 12:16 PM #3
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This is the dude who waited, while recording it via voice recorder and executed them. I think he said something creepy.
Should have stuck with the shots to the torso, waited a few minutes (5 hours), then called 911.Life is easy when you take personal responsibility
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11-07-2023, 12:23 PM #6
strong explanation. The dude planned and carried out an ambush and then executed 2 people. Thats murder jack. Sorry.
Should have just shot them as they came in the window or whever they were breaking in, called 911, and he would not have even been taken to trial.
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Right, he forced criminals into his home to defend himself. I'm sure even shooting someone as they're entering your window is 50/50. I also know you'd feel differently if your home was constantly entered by strangers with malicious intent. Anyone could say what he should have done. It's different being in that position. I agree he planned to kill them. But still. Dude lived in a society that failed him.
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Dude was probably really paranoid after things went missing and people probably told him he was crazy. So he wanted some peace.
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Shooting burglars is legal. Torturing burglars, recording it, then waiting hours to alert the authorities as to not interrupt your meal is not.
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11-07-2023, 12:38 PM #22
Didn't watch video, opinions strictly based on thread.....
Not sure how people know "he sat in a chair and waited." That should never have come out. Could have easily shot them in self defense and kept that to himself. The chair BS sounds like hunting in his own home. Also dumb on him to record it obviously. When there are 3 people in a home and 2 are dead, there is only 1 story.
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11-07-2023, 12:43 PM #27
You don’t understand the concept of self defense.
You seem to be the kind of sociopath who is chomping at the bit to get legal justification to kill someone regardless of if it is moral/necessary or not.
You ruin gun rights for the rest of us.
The dude murdered those people and an appropriate punishment was handed down.
Your ignorant opinion is irrelevant.I only read thread titles and my own posts.
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I haven't watched the vid you posted yet, but I remember the original vid from a big thread years ago. You're allowed to use reasonable force. The dude was dead, the chick was injured and not a threat. a sane person would have then called the cops, but he decided to drag her off just to execute her while taunting her. There's certain things you aren't supposed to do when you live in a society.
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you guys are retarded
could you imagine taunting a 17yo girl who you shot before executing her?
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11-07-2023, 12:55 PM #30
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murd...Nicholas_Brady
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