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    Man Convicted Of 1st Degree Murder For Shooting Burglars During Home Invasion

    Self-defense is on its way out. It seems the stars have to align for your life to be warranted protection.

    Imagine relaxing in your own home either alone or with your family and someone breaks in. You have to whip out the "do-i-have-the-right-to defend myself chart"

    I'll admit he didn't need to execute them after they were incapacitated, but still, that situation could've been anything & it seems to only apply to the victims.

    1) Man's house burglarized 12 times prior
    2) Police of no help, so he waits in basement with gun
    3) Shoots and kills 2 career thieves one after the other
    4) 2 life sentences
    As the old saying goes, rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

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    This is the dude who waited, while recording it via voice recorder and executed them. I think he said something creepy.

    Should have stuck with the shots to the torso, waited a few minutes (5 hours), then called 911.
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    i have a feeling that if the race was reverse they would say it was fine to defend
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    This is the dude who waited, while recording it via voice recorder and executed them. I think he said something creepy.

    Should have stuck with the shots to the torso, waited a few minutes (5 hours), then called 911.
    Agreed honestly. Should've also lawyered up. Not sure why he recorded it but heck the dudes old as hell and traumatized.
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    strong explanation. The dude planned and carried out an ambush and then executed 2 people. Thats murder jack. Sorry.

    Should have just shot them as they came in the window or whever they were breaking in, called 911, and he would not have even been taken to trial.

    And I am 1000000000000% in support of stand your ground laws.
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    Did it wrong. Should have just kept blasting left them as they lay then called the police. Nothing wrong with sitting in that chair prepared. Lots wrong with recording it, putting the bodies in tarps, waiting a whole day to call the cops. Theres mental illness there, dangerous mental illness.
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    Originally Posted by Retoaded View Post
    strong explanation. The dude planned and carried out an ambush and then executed 2 people. Thats murder jack. Sorry.

    Should have just shot them as they came in the window or whever they were breaking in, called 911, and he would not have even been taken to trial.

    And I am 1000000000000% in support of stand your ground laws.
    Shouldn't be murder because they entered his home.

    I know it is, but it should not be.
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    I call bs on house being burglarized 12 times prior, just no way.

    An execution after a neutralized threat is murder in a civilized society.
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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    Shouldn't be murder because they entered his home.

    I know it is, but it should not be.
    I agree with you.
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    He didn't get 1st degree murder for shooting burglars, he got it for executing them when they posed no threat.
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    Originally Posted by liftandsleep30 View Post
    i have a feeling that if the race was reverse they would say it was fine to defend
    This. If you reverse the races and the burglars were white and the shooter was white they would have let him off.
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    Originally Posted by Retoaded View Post
    strong explanation. The dude planned and carried out an ambush and then executed 2 people. Thats murder jack. Sorry.

    Should have just shot them as they came in the window or whever they were breaking in, called 911, and he would not have even been taken to trial.

    And I am 1000000000000% in support of stand your ground laws.
    Right, he forced criminals into his home to defend himself. I'm sure even shooting someone as they're entering your window is 50/50. I also know you'd feel differently if your home was constantly entered by strangers with malicious intent. Anyone could say what he should have done. It's different being in that position. I agree he planned to kill them. But still. Dude lived in a society that failed him.
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    Should he have killed them? Yes.

    Should he say this and recorded it?

    "I don't see them as human. I see them as vermin."

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    He didn’t use common sense.
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    Shouldn't be murder because they entered his home.

    I know it is, but it should not be.
    So if Breonna Taylor's bf shot the cop that entered her home, it wouldn't be murder?
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    So if Breonna Taylor's bf shot the cop that entered her home, it wouldn't be murder?
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    Not sure how people know "he sat in a chair and waited." That should never have come out. Could have easily shot them in self defense and kept that to himself. The chair BS sounds like hunting in his own home. Also dumb on him to record it obviously. When there are 3 people in a home and 2 are dead, there is only 1 story.
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    Originally Posted by BrianDaMan View Post
    This. If you reverse the races and the burglars were white and the shooter was white they would have let him off.

    Weren't they all white tho?
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    So if Breonna Taylor's bf shot the cop that entered her home, it wouldn't be murder?
    In my opinion it would not be.

    Cops should announce themselves; cops talk about officer safety, I believe in everybody's safety.

    Originally Posted by Muzzlrpress View Post
    Shooting burglars is legal. Torturing burglars, recording it, then waiting hours to alert the authorities as to not interrupt your meal is not.
    Somebody breaks into your home, torturing and streaming it should be fine.

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    Originally Posted by Muzzlrpress View Post
    Shooting burglars is legal. Torturing burglars, recording it, then waiting hours to alert the authorities as to not interrupt your meal is not.
    Right. He should be charged for that. Not sure about life sentences.

    One of his fears were that they'd get out of jail years later and come back for him. I wonder what the stats are on that.
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    You don’t understand the concept of self defense.


    You seem to be the kind of sociopath who is chomping at the bit to get legal justification to kill someone regardless of if it is moral/necessary or not.

    You ruin gun rights for the rest of us.

    The dude murdered those people and an appropriate punishment was handed down.

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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    In my opinion it would not be.

    Cops should announce themselves; cops talk about officer safety, I believe in everybody's safety.



    Somebody breaks into your home, torturing and streaming it should be fine.

    I haven't watched the vid you posted yet, but I remember the original vid from a big thread years ago. You're allowed to use reasonable force. The dude was dead, the chick was injured and not a threat. a sane person would have then called the cops, but he decided to drag her off just to execute her while taunting her. There's certain things you aren't supposed to do when you live in a society.
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    Originally Posted by BalognaNbeans View Post
    Another white supremacist off the street
    Originally Posted by liftandsleep30 View Post
    i have a feeling that if the race was reverse they would say it was fine to defend
    Originally Posted by BrianDaMan View Post
    This. If you reverse the races and the burglars were white and the shooter was white they would have let him off.

    you guys are retarded

    could you imagine taunting a 17yo girl who you shot before executing her?


    The murders of Haile Kifer and Nicholas Brady occurred on Thanksgiving Day of 2012, when Haile Kifer, 18, and her cousin, Nicholas Brady, 17, broke into the home of 64-year-old Byron David Smith in Little Falls, Minnesota, in the United States. Smith shot the teens separately and 10 minutes apart as they entered the basement where he was, later stating to police he was worried about them being armed. After already shooting them once, he repeatedly taunted them while they were injured as he shot them both in an execution style until they were dead. He did not report that he had killed Kifer and Brady until the day after the murders, keeping their corpses in his closet. On April 29, 2014, he was found guilty of two counts of premeditated first-degree murder. He was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.


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