UFC 295: Procházka vs. Pereira ~Official Discussion Thread~

[ninetynine8]

styles make fights. Alex is a kickboxer who can get pressured in the grappling easier, this leaves him open to strikes and levels the playing field

IMO also alex chin is worse at this point in his career. I can see Jiri taking his best punch and not getting koed, i can't see Jiri getting kod by israel

thing is Pavlovich doesn't have 1 punch ko power, at least not that i've seen. He's kod fat guys that have no way of dealing with his offense. If Tom shoots a takedown and gets clipped he'll probably still be fine.


Tom will play outside a bit with leg kicks, pop in with a 1 2 after a feint and then after another feint hit the tdd and sub him. It's HW so anything can happen ofc

well i got the aspinall prediction atleast, except he knocked him out with the 1-2 so didn't have to take down

glad i didn't bet on this one!

[Tuga88]

Good stoppage. Jiri went out, was in a bad position and was just going to take more damage. The kind of damage that will ruin your life in 20 years time.

[Cartiac]

only way this could have gone on if not stopped when it was, is that alex would have landed a few more shots on jiri while in full mount. jiri admitted that he was out, and didn't complain about the stoppage. his arms went limp for a moment after 5th or 6th elbow.

Yep, Jiri took a lot of very bad, unanswered damage and it wasn't going to get any better as he was not intelligently defending himself. He was hurt badly from Alex's brutal left hook, just hugging Alex's legs and showed no reaction to protect himself when Alex started slamming very hard elbows into the side of his head until he collapsed to his back.

I think a lot of people's comments are based on the absolutely horrendous commentary. Jiri did not just bounce back up quickly. He had no immediate or even delayed reaction because he was clearly not present or aware for a long time. We didn't hear this early stoppage crap in the first Izzy fight even though Izzy was still on his feet and immediately reacted with protest, obviously much more conscious than Jiri was. DC actually said that one could have been stopped earlier. They were both good stops, but the comparison shows just how stupid people claiming the Jiri fight was stopped early actually is.

[Schnitzl]

Checked out fighter purses.

Steve Erceg made $12k. Imagine flying from Australia to NY, fighting on the biggest stage in the world and the salary not covering your flights ayy
Diego Lopes - people calling him a "problem" in LW and a once in a generation talent. $12k for being on the main event of UFC 295
Saint-Denis $34500
Aspinall + Pavlovich both $250k. Who knows if Hunter gave them PPV points, hopefully he did.

[Barteh]

Checked out fighter purses.

Steve Erceg made $12k. Imagine flying from Australia to NY, fighting on the biggest stage in the world and the salary not covering your flights ayy
Diego Lopes - people calling him a "problem" in LW and a once in a generation talent. $12k for being on the main event of UFC 295
Saint-Denis $34500
Aspinall + Pavlovich both $250k. Who knows if Hunter gave them PPV points, hopefully he did.

How'd you check out the fighter purses when the numbers aren't disclosed?

[Mr.PissShivers]

[ninetynine8]

the stoppage was early... it's the fukken main event, crazier comebacks have happened

jiri was knocked out against reyes upkick and recovered quickly

[Schnitzl]

How'd you check out the fighter purses when the numbers aren't disclosed?

Why do you think they aren't disclosed?

[Barteh]

Why do you think they aren't disclosed?

Because they aren't in New York, nor in Nevada where the UFC does a lot of other events.

" Majority of United States ACs keeps purses confidential including New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, and Texas. Some exceptions are Oregon, Washington, California, Georgia, and Arizona."

Everything you read online will be guesswork.

[Lastro]

the stoppage was early... it's the fukken main event, crazier comebacks have happened

jiri was knocked out against reyes upkick and recovered quickly

this

you gotta let the ground and pound play out especially since it's a title fight. jiri's been wobbled tons of times and reversed texeiea's mount like 3 times in their last fight

chance of him coming back was very small but you still gotta give it to him

[ninetynine8]

this

you gotta let the ground and pound play out especially since it's a title fight. jiri's been wobbled tons of times and reversed texeiea's mount like 3 times in their last fight

chance of him coming back was very small but you still gotta give it to him

yep

it's unlikely jiri would have recovered but so what? it's unlikely a tincan is beating ngannou yet they still let them knowing he's getting knocked into the shadow realm. a couple more seconds would have sufficed

[Mr.PissShivers]

yep

it's unlikely jiri would have recovered but so what? it's unlikely a tincan is beating ngannou yet they still let them knowing he's getting knocked into the shadow realm. a couple more seconds would have sufficed

Thats what most people including myself thought, but with Jiri admitting he was out, can't argue with the stoppage

[Barteh]

Thats what most people including myself thought, but with Jiri admitting he was out, can't argue with the stoppage

Jiri was just being humble because he embodies the true spirit of a martial artist. In reality the stoppage was slightly early at worst so it's hard to have a real problem with it anyway.

[Mr.PissShivers]

Jiri was just being humble because he embodies the true spirit of a martial artist. In reality the stoppage was slightly early at worst so it's hard to have a real problem with it anyway.

In hindsight was was fuked after the left hook.

[ninetynine8]

when he fell down alex had his hands on the ground... there could be a solid few seconds between gnp, in which anything could have happened like jiri wiggling out or blocking/mitigating while he comes back to senses


it was a shiet stoppage, jiri is just humble.

[Schnitzl]

Because they aren't in New York, nor in Nevada where the UFC does a lot of other events.

" Majority of United States ACs keeps purses confidential including New Jersey, New York, Pennsylvania, Illinois, and Texas. Some exceptions are Oregon, Washington, California, Georgia, and Arizona."

Everything you read online will be guesswork.

Not really guesswork. Some of the sites go off the contract lengths and how much fighters got paid in the past. They analyse how long the contract lasts and base their numbers on that.

If Lopes for example has a 6 fight contract and got paid 12000 on his first 3 while 295 being the 4th, it's going to be the same number.