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    During Covid, places like Australia and the UK were arresting people for being outdoors without a mask on.

    California kept businesses closed for over a year.

    Texas was closed for ... about 10 days.

    How many guns are owned in each of those places?

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    Originally Posted by TryingMen View Post
    If you're really interested in saving people you should be fighting for fast food, sugary cereal, candy, desserts, fried foods etc to be removed from society. Sure you can argue those people do it to themselves and you wouldn't be wrong, but people clearly can't be trusted to do the right thing. It's not different than letting them have guns. Let them have food choices that are easy to lead to poor health and they abuse it to the point of obesity, diabetes, and cardiovascular disease. And they do it on a monumental level compared to the abuse of firearms.

    Let's be honest, civilization does not need these types of foods floating around. Any food where the calories are too easy to rack up quickly. Sodas and alcohol absolutely should be stricken as options too.

    We would all be better for it if these were not within arms reach. Dead serious. Think about how much happier and healthier this world would be.
    Raise your kids healthy and strong, brb having them get shot up at the movies or concert or school.

    I'm pro 2a but let's be real-even if it's a tiny portion of the population getting shot, this chit is disturbing. If the gun lobby was smart they'd get behind laws that could prevent this chit. Instead they are going to fight it untill 2a is effectively nullified.
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    Originally Posted by Godfrd824 View Post
    Because criminals don't care about the law. This thread was stupid as fuk, even for misc standards.
    The AR-15 Robert Card used to murder 18 people was bought legally.

    Try again.
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    The AR-15 Robert Card used to murder 18 people was bought legally.

    Try again.
    That's irrelevant. In commiting the crime he wasn't thinking about the laws. Take the guns from law abiding citizens and the criminals will still be able to get them. You're really bad at this. I hope you're not a lawyer.
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    Originally Posted by Godfrd824 View Post
    That's irrelevant. In commiting the crime he wasn't thinking about the laws.
    Apparently by buying his AR-15 legally, he was.

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    Anyone that is admitted to psychiatric care should have their homes searched for guns


    And they should be taken away

    It's basically that simple

    But the ja in government would rather waste your tax dollars on 500 cops and 200 vehicles to show up after your dead

    It's not a gun problem

    It's a stupidity problem
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    Originally Posted by wasp9166 View Post
    Anyone that is admitted to psychiatric care should have their homes searched for guns


    And they should be taken away

    It's basically that simple

    But the ja in government would rather waste your tax dollars on 500 cops and 200 vehicles to show up after your dead

    It's not a gun problem

    It's a stupidity problem
    If a Democrat said this people would call that Dem a tyrannical dictator.

    You don't lose your amendment rights just because you have mental problems.
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    Apparently by buying his AR-15 legally, he was.

    Try again.
    You're just gonna have to deal with it. Or you can move to Mexico. They have very strict gun laws, it's worked out great for them. Don't become a lawyer.
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    If a Democrat said this people would call that Dem a tyrannical dictator.

    You don't lose your amendment rights just because you have mental problems.
    Yep ,people that can't see should be allowed to drive

    Oh wait ,that would kill people


    You dummies that think amendment this and amendment that belong right there with the dummies mentioned prior

    It's not working, something has to change ,and it will

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    #1 killer of people in the 20th century was democide which is where governments kill their own people. Not civilians with guns, not even close.

    Your chances of being killed in a mass shooting is pretty narrow.
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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    Funny how whenever leftists speak they basically just show off how they're constantly parroting whatever they hear on CNN or MSNBC.

    I mean ya'll are guns in general AR-15's and talking about them like they're something special lol.
    AR-15 is the media's typical assault rifle. They mean assault rifle but probably have like a product placement marketing deal with Colt or something.

    Assault rifles being a weapon designed to gunfight other humans and one of the most effective means to fight other humans while needing minimal intelligence, skill or training means it is a particularly contentious class of weapon.

    On one hand 2A proponents will argue the whole point of 2A is to gunfight other humans so this is precisely the class that should be protected.

    On the other hand, it is so easy and effective that when used nefariously it can be extremely devastating and terrifying, even if handled by a child or retard.
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    Imagine being so stupid that you think that changing the LAWS will stop people from being losers.
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    Originally Posted by wasp9166 View Post
    Anyone that is admitted to psychiatric care should have their homes searched for guns


    And they should be taken away

    It's basically that simple

    But the ja in government would rather waste your tax dollars on 500 cops and 200 vehicles to show up after your dead

    It's not a gun problem

    It's a stupidity problem
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    I get the slippery slope argument that is trotted out against any of these sort of common sense ideas, but that's why I think that gun owners and the gun lobby has to get ahead of this chit. If Democrats force this through, 5 years later a divorced dude with a mean tweet is gonna have his guns taken. If this was brought up from a pro 2a side, those sort of shenanigans can be protected against. That guy in Maine obviously should not have had guns.
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    AR-15's only makeup 1.5% of gun deaths annually on average.

    One is much more likely to be beaten to death by an unarmed person.
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    Originally Posted by BearyManilowe View Post
    Imagine being so stupid that you think that changing the LAWS will stop people from being losers.
    Are you suggesting the laws are useless so changing them is pointless?

    Are you suggesting that the current laws are perfect so changing them would only make things worse?

    Is this only gun laws or do you mean all laws?

    Anarchy?
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    If a Democrat said this people would call that Dem a tyrannical dictator.

    You don't lose your amendment rights just because you have mental problems.
    your trying to support taking away peoples amendment rights away from the mentally stable so the illegals can gun everyone down without fear of being shot back. classic bread roll of the ill.

    should ban cars too while your at it since kids get ran over all the time plus you dont even need ammo to take out a bunch of people.
    should ban your internet access since you can contact someone to buy a gun.
    should close schools because they can indoctrinate the kids.
    should close down the government all they do is have young kids kill people in other countries and launder money to themselves during murderess wars.
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    Originally Posted by ~Hades~ View Post
    It’s wild how many people go to those things everyday and don’t get shot



    Op conveniently ignores all other daily murders because he’s a supreme phggt
    A key difference between first world and third world countries is whether it is indeed wild that most people don't get shot at the mall or if it is completely normal that noone gets shot at the mall.

    I agree with the second point though, it's a good point. 7 single person murders is morally the same as one 7 person mass murder.

    Mass murders skew towards white school kids?
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    The AR-15 Robert Card used to murder 18 people was bought legally.

    Try again.
    However his commitment should have triggered the sheriff to get his weapons. That just didn't happen, because why idk...but he could have concealed the fact that he had them or they could have just dropped the ball and not reported to police that he got committed.

    The guy was hearing voices and clearly unwell...he had paranoid schizophrenia and was hearing voices say horrible things to him.
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    The gun debate typically lands in one of two camps:

    - It's the guns
    - It's a mental health crisis

    Children in the US are 1,766% more likely to die by guns than comparable countries. If this was a mental health crisis, wouldn't we expect to see the US citizen's risk of mental health at comparable percentage? However, you are only 81% (2x) more likely to be diagnosed with a mental health condition in the US.

    So a child is 18x more likely to die by a gun in the US compared to other countries, but the average American is only 2x more likely to have a mental health condition.

    But guns have nothing to do with it?
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    OP must be an absolute wreck (pun intended) anytime he drives on a public road
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    Originally Posted by NinjaBoots View Post
    The gun debate typically lands in one of two camps:

    - It's the guns
    - It's a mental health crisis

    Children in the US are 1,766% more likely to die by guns than comparable countries. If this was a mental health crisis, wouldn't we expect to see the US citizen's risk of mental health at comparable percentage? However, you are only 81% (2x) more likely to be diagnosed with a mental health condition in the US.

    So a child is 18x more likely to die by a gun in the US compared to other countries, but the average American is only 2x more likely to have a mental health condition.

    But guns have nothing to do with it?
    What the fuk is comparable countries? And why single out guns? Sounds like angling for statistics you want rather than making a rational point. Child gun deaths especially from mass shootings are so small its an insignificant statistic.

    The child mortality rate in the United States was 5.44 in 2020. This rate was 50th among the 195 countries and territories measured,
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