Was Clinton the last decent democrat president?

[Fang2]

Obama and Biden are crap compared to him

[isingmodel]

All the recent Democrats have been pretty conventional, middle of the road politicans. Their biggest failings are the fact that they are still too beholden to corporate America and so not hugely different from Republicans and still can't get things like universal health coverage passed, though that is largely on Congress.

[elterrible987]

clinton era was the last time the MIC actually downsized though not really his doing but congress.


They were not happy about reduction in funds nor efforts to reduce powers of the intelligence community. we all know what happened next

[gachase21]

Clinton is pretty much the reason we ended up in all the 2000's wars- and 2008 housing crisis

[Manc33]

About 50 people died around the Clintons in suspicious circumstances. Wikipedia calls it a conspiracy theory and yet all those people did die in suspicious circumstances. Moving right along...

[greenleaf]

[nutsy54]

{Clinton taking credit for Republican results}

So... A Republican majority House and Senate passes budget legislation with "$0" deficit... and Clinton takes credit?

[SmithMachineGuy]

So... A Republican majority House and Senate passes budget legislation with "$0" deficit... and Clinton takes credit?

He signed it, so he can rightfully take credit.
He could have vetoed it if he wanted.

[Noliberals4]

So... A Republican majority House and Senate passes budget legislation with "$0" deficit... and Clinton takes credit?

uhhhh yes?

Lol

Nutsty54 is one dumb MFer

[Chowboy]

Has the bar gotten that low that Bubba is considered good?


Yeah, I guess it has?

[gachase21]

Even though I adamantly disagreed with some of them...

If I had to rank the last presidents in terms of "good person"

It would be

1. George H Bush
2. Carter
3. Reagan.
4. Obama
5. George W. Bush
6. Trump
7. Clinton
8. Biden

Years ago, I probably would've had Biden ahead of Trump until leanres more about him as a parent.

[Duckliver]

Even though I adamantly disagreed with some of them...

If I had to rank the last presidents in terms of "good person"

It would be

1. George H Bush
2. Carter
3. Reagan.
4. Obama
5. George W. Bush
6. Trump
7. Clinton
8. Biden

Years ago, I probably would've had Biden ahead of Trump until leanres more about him as a parent.

Imagine putting the former cia director on top of this list

Also on bill clinton
The Telecommunications Act of 1996 is a United States federal law enacted by the 104th United States Congress on January 3, 1996, and signed into law on February 8, 1996, by President Bill Clinton. It primarily amended Chapter 5 of Title 47 of the United States Code.

This is why we have 5 media companies instead of over 100


Can you guys wake up already

[XterraRob]

Imagine knowing about Bill Clinton's deep relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and the Chinese and thinking anything positive about him.

[Chowboy]

Imagine knowing about Bill Clinton's deep relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and the Chinese and thinking anything positive about him.

I remember. When the ChiComs could not figure out how to make their rockets not explode, Bubba sent some of our best to help 'em out. Now look at 'em.

[LargePeter]

Jfk

[benedetto27]

People forget about how corrupt he was because the Obama and Biden regimes made it look quaint and it was a while ago. Read the book about him by Christopher Hitchens for a contemporary account of all his BS.

The balanced budget was great but more due to based Newt Gingrich.

The idea of a balanced budget does take me back to a better time. Like in 2015 when Canada had a balanced budget but city people cared more about electing a part time drama teacher with nice hair and that was it for the nation of Canada.

[stevebec]

The budget was only balanced because of funny government math. They count net Social Security receipts as revenue, even though they're only borrowing it from the trust fund. No business on the planet could get away with counting a loan as income.

[tng83]

Bruh Kennedy was the last decent Democrat. And Trump was the best Republican since Reagan. Most presidents lately are utter shiit.

[Duckliver]

Bruh Kennedy was the last decent Democrat. And Trump was the best Republican since Reagan. Most presidents lately are utter shiit.

Pretty accurate

Except trump paved the way for Biden and has only bitched about things instead of doing something about it. Also responsible for radicalizing the useful idiots and tainting good policy. Also operation warpspeed spearheaded by NSA and CIA was a psyop on the American people.

Reagan ended the Cold War effectively.

[TaeBoNinja]

Clinton is pretty much the reason we ended up in all the 2000's wars- and 2008 housing crisis

No that was Bush 41 and then Dubya

[EctoCanuck]

So... A Republican majority House and Senate passes budget legislation with "$0" deficit... and Clinton takes credit?

Old man nutsy forgot to take his Geritol this morning.

No Republican has balanced the Federal Budget in 100 years...only Democrats...

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And Trump was the best Republican since Reagan. .

Trump, Reagan, and don't forget Nixon...

[Phil9]

Obama was our best overall president in the past 50 years so no. Slick Willy is a close second though.

[Duckliver]

Old man nutsy forgot to take his Geritol this morning.

No Republican has balanced the Federal Budget in 100 years...only Democrats...

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Trump, Reagan, and don't forget Nixon...

Ever wonder why Nixon got railroaded by intelligence community?

The Jews are all over the government," Nixon complained to his chief of staff, H.R. "Bob" Haldeman, in an Oval Office meeting recorded on one of a set of White House tapes released yesterday at the National Archives. Nixon said the Jews needed to be brought under control by putting someone "in charge who is not Jewish" in key agencies.

Washington "is full of Jews," the president asserted. "Most Jews are disloyal." He made exceptions for some of his top aides, such as national security adviser Henry Kissinger, his White House counsel, Leonard Garment, and one of his speechwriters, William Safire, and then added:

"But, Bob, generally speaking, you can't trust the bastards. They turn on you. Am I wrong or right?"

Haldeman agreed wholeheartedly. "Their whole orientation is against you. In this administration, anyway. And they are smart. They have the ability to do what they want to do--which is to hurt us."

Elsewhere on the tapes, Nixon denies being antisemitic, but his attitude toward Jews was starkly displayed in the approximately 445 hours of White House tape recordings made between February and July 1971 and released yesterday--the first comprehensive disclosure of confidential discussions between Nixon and his closest advisers. Only portions of recordings dealing with the Watergate scandal and other abuses of governmental power, along with semi-public meetings in the Cabinet room, had been released before.

The newly released tapes give an unprecedented insight into the workings of the Nixon White House, punctuated by the president's frequent coarse comments on prominent figures, including Supreme Court justices, leading newspaper publishers and officials in his own administration.

They show Nixon talking about selling ambassadorships, railing against Jews and other minorities, complaining about the drinking habits of leading members of Congress, and exchanging conspiracy theories with Kissinger and other top aides.

In many cases, Nixon's tirades were touched off by news leaks and political setbacks, such as the occasion at the beginning of July 1971 when the Bureau of Labor Statistics released figures showing that unemployment was on the upswing. Concerned that news of the joblessness was hurting him in the polls, Nixon demanded the ouster of the director of the bureau, Julius Shiskin, and asked his hatchet man, Charles Colson, to investigate the ethnic background of officials in the agency.

"They are all Jews?" Nixon exclaimed when Colson listed the names.

"Every one of them," Colson replied. "Well, with a couple of exceptions. . . . You just have to go down the goddamn list and you know they are out to kill us."

In a later conversation the same day--July 3--Nixon and Haldeman discussed Jewish penetration of the National Security Council staff. "Is Tony Lake Jewish?" Nixon demands, referring to a young Kissinger aide who went on to become national security adviser under President Clinton.

"I've always wondered about that," Haldeman replies.

"He looked it," says Nixon, without reaching a firm conclusion. [Lake is not Jewish].

When The Washington Post gave front-page coverage in April 1971 to a survey showing 60 percent support for antiwar demonstrations among residents of affluent District neighborhoods, Nixon complained that the results were loaded.

"Bob," he explained to a receptive Haldeman, "there's a hell of a lot of Jews in the District, see . . . The gentiles have moved out."

Such complaints were overshadowed by the controversy surrounding publication of the Pentagon Papers, a classified history of the Vietnam War, that first appeared in the New York Times and later in The Post and other newspapers. Two days after the articles first appeared, the Justice Department moved to enjoin publication and the battle soon moved to the Supreme Court, which ruled against the government June 30 in a 6-3 decision.

The decision dismayed Nixon, even though he told Colson he had expected such an outcome. That afternoon, he expressed special chagrin at Justice Potter Stewart, whom he described as "a weak bastard" who had been "overwhelmed by the Washington-Georgetown social set." The next morning, in a telephone conversation with FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, he said he hoped he would "outlive the bastards" on the high court.

"We have got to change that court," he told Hoover, adding that the "stinking decision" had stolen the headlines from his own visit to FBI headquarters, where he had given a tough law-and-order talk.

The two men exchanged views on "a conspiracy" among leading Washington journalists and the man who leaked the classified history, Daniel Ellsberg, to embarrass the government. Hoover observed that he had seen Post Publisher Katharine Graham on television the night before commenting on the decision, and described her as "an old bitch."

"She is a terrible old bag," agreed Nixon.

The tapes shed more light on the sometimes tortured relationship between Nixon and Kissinger. At one point, in March 1971, the national security adviser threatened to resign because of critical articles in the news media that he blamed on a jealous secretary of state, William P. Rogers. "I produce an almost pathological reaction in him now," Kissinger told Nixon. "I am such an offense to his ego."

At least he got off easy and didn’t get murdered like when JFK was trying to halt nuclear weapon development in Israel with the uranium Mossad stole.


“It’s about time that the Jew in America realizes he’s an American first and a Jew second” -Richard Nixon


And now here’s a lesson for the ********** retards who can’t accept people because they are Jewish. It doesn’t matter, there are amazing Jews and bad Jews. They are individuals and also part of a group. Ben stein was one of Nixon best supporters and continues to defend his legacy to this day.





Wake up

[Dan_S]

Yeah, the guy who had Chinese spies sleeping in the White House and then ordered his AG to squash the investigation into it was the "last good Democrat President."

[Duckliver]

Obama was our best overall president in the past 50 years so no. Slick Willy is a close second though.

Ignoring being the father of terror in the Middle East. ( Can you imagine little kids growing up with predator drones monitoring and bombing their villages their whole lives? Literal “America is Skynet” type chit.)

Imagine saying that about the man who legalized the CIA to perform psy-ops on Americans.

[x-trainer ben]

Ecto those numbers are shocking!


Fang, what is your definition of the words "last decent"?

character, morals, criminal charges, people you liked,?

[lockdev]

Even though I adamantly disagreed with some of them...

If I had to rank the last presidents in terms of "good person"

It would be

1. George H Bush
2. Carter
3. Reagan.
4. Obama
5. George W. Bush
6. Trump
7. Clinton
8. Biden

Years ago, I probably would've had Biden ahead of Trump until leanres more about him as a parent.

All presidents have been mouthpieces since Carter.

Even Trump is just controlled opposition.

LOL@US and A thinking their vote actually matters.

Elections are liking choosing if you want to be killed by a roofing hammer or a ball peen hammer.

inb4 miscers choose the peen.

[Kraken]

No. The Republican congress saved Clinton's admin from disaster, the same way the dem congresses trash Republican presidencies.

The 90s permanently changed politics though. There was a revolution that dramatically increased corruption, and Clinton and Dems were the main culprits. It helped create the unit party, solidified the climate agenda with massive spending, changed election standards, omnibus rules, and put the country moving left at break neck speeds.