Is this self defense?
I know some places you have a duty to retreat and other you can stand your ground..
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10-01-2023, 10:31 PM #1Registered User
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Is this self defense?
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10-01-2023, 10:52 PM #2Registered User
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Not sure what the context is but id say probably not. At that point dude let go and was on other side of the barrier.
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10-01-2023, 11:03 PM #3Registered User
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Hahaha. The guy was all confident beating up on a younger person as part of a group.
His cries like an absolute bitch when facing the consequences to his actions make this hilarious.
Self defense for me. Beautiful.
Although I guess some people will think just because he jumped on the other side of a foot high wall, the attackers were just going to turn around and forget about him hahahahaha.
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10-01-2023, 11:11 PM #45'3" 300lbs Fudge Rounds
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New Mexico I think, but anyways, Not sure what was going on before hand. Either way, you can't go around provoking people or escalating situations and then think you are going to shoot someone when things don't go your way.
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10-01-2023, 11:33 PM #5Registered User
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Self defense. He es coming at her and you don’t know what kind of life she had. Don’t touch me. I train all my girls to shoot first and ask questions later.
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10-01-2023, 11:39 PM #6Registered User
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It’s open Cary. With rape on the Rise you can’t blann md e her. She gave a warningOriginally Posted by Jasonw1178
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10-01-2023, 11:40 PM #7Registered User
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What you sipping on brah?Originally Posted by Immichaelski
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10-01-2023, 11:43 PM #8Registered User
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Fuq u. It’s ok when one of y’all shoot us but when we protect ourselves you get your panties in a bunch. You next *******.Originally Posted by baroni01
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10-01-2023, 11:43 PM #9
Not self defense. He has to shoot them when they are on the offense, not when they are on defense.
They stopped pursuing and he shot the guy to "git back at him".
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10-01-2023, 11:46 PM #10Originally Posted by bananastand11
Yup, all of this done in self defense
It’s so crazy to me what has gone down because
They even go to the extent to try to manipulate my thoughts. Clinging to some idea that one crime is going to make up for another. It’s absolute insanity. Like it makes no sense to me.
But it is hard to feel about it like I told you
All I did was defend myself…
If you don’t see it, that’s too bad
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10-01-2023, 11:49 PM #11Registered User
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Got one coming for you too. You think you rub this **** but you don’t. I’ve been quiet hit you about to be stabbed. Get on your kneesOriginally Posted by baroni01
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10-02-2023, 12:00 AM #12aka cheeseburger walrus
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Typical antifa typeOriginally Posted by bananastand11
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10-02-2023, 12:02 AM #13Registered User
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I’m American. You just jealous it’s brown skin
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10-02-2023, 12:05 AM #14Registered User
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no.guy with the gun was the aggressor.and they were little bitch ass liberal antifa ph@ggots.fuking bitch ass poosay
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10-02-2023, 12:08 AM #15
This is strictly about a girl fight ye? Or what’s going on right now?
This is solely about females fighting each other because if not understand
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10-02-2023, 12:09 AM #16Texas Crew
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It's difficult to see, but it looks like he was on the left side of the wall, jumped over and started trying to run to the right, the group stopped him, pushed him back over the to the left side of the wall again, and that's when he shot.
It appears as though he was attempting to run someone down and was trying to charge through that crowd of men, which means, he did not fear for his life, and the shooting was not justified. That was attempted murder.One party system; Most Republicans are Democrats, but no Democrats are Republicans.
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10-02-2023, 12:10 AM #17Registered User
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They weren't trying to kill or seriously harm him, they let him go and yet he decided to needlessly take a disproportionate revenge. At least if he threw a rock or something it would have been more reasonable.
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10-02-2023, 12:12 AM #18Registered User
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That was my take. I'm guessing they'll be a story with him charged soon enough..Originally Posted by Kraken
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10-02-2023, 02:19 AM #19Registered User
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https://sourcenm.com/2023/09/29/trum...nola-shooting/Originally Posted by baroni01
Trump supporter charged with attempted murder in Española shooting
Ryan Martinez, 23, shot a man at a prayer vigil at site of proposed Oñate statue
I'm a Trump supporter but have no issue with this dude being charged..
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10-02-2023, 08:53 AM #20Texas Crew
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That report is cringe. Did you purposely post the most left wing article you could find? It reads like the diary of a 12 year old girl.Originally Posted by baroni01
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10-02-2023, 09:01 AM #21Structural Engineer Brah
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Why does it say Mexico when one guy is wearing a MAGA hat lmaoo
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10-02-2023, 09:20 AM #22Registered User
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I didnt bother watching it but pretty much if there is an imminent threat of death to you or someone else you are justified.Originally Posted by baroni01
But you have got to use your head and no win. To dk something and win not to. Some say knowing when to shoot is a pretty good test. But knowing when not too shoot is equally as good of a test
Example. I was in jail a couple days last year. While in jail I was sitting on the floor reading news paper this piece of white trash attacked me from behind while I was sitting on the floor . By the rime I was on my feet he was on the other side of the cell.
The corrections clown came in and started clowning me. Saying I should have went over there and kicked his ass and was saying i was a pusdy and all kinds of immature uneducated dirty ball nonsense you expect from a guard. But I knew once I was on my feet and he was across the room had I walked over there and reengaged what was a few minutes ago a threat. But now was not a threat. The judge would have pointed that out and I would have been stuck there for probably a month if not longer.
Any weapon guys no matter if it's a gun a knife or even your hands can turn from a tool that can save you and help you to a tool that will hurt you and destroy you.
Knowledge, education, training these make up the foundation you need to have if you plan to walk around like Marian Cobretie.
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10-02-2023, 09:23 AM #23Banned
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It is not. The guy was not grabbing/charging him when he shot.
He is absolutely fuked.
If he did it literally 2 seconds earlier, it would be self defense.
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10-02-2023, 09:25 AM #24Registered User
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"let him go, let him go, let him go."
He is let go after being pressed against a wall.
ok i am free now, let me shoot that guy that let me go.There is an unspoken thing, we are iron brothers and sisters, we are to support each other and...It is our duty to support our brothers and sisters in the iron game!
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10-02-2023, 09:39 AM #25Registered User
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Because of the angle of the camera it is hard to know. If one of the individuals that was the aggressor was showing signs of going over the wall, it could be considered self-defense. The camera doesn't capture that, so it depends on what the witness statements are. If nobody was coming over the wall at him when he pulled, yeah, he's got troubles.
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10-02-2023, 10:04 AM #26Offal
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Only reason he was being manhandled was because he was trying to charge into the group of people making him an initial aggressor. Then a petty shooting afterward.
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10-02-2023, 10:05 AM #27Registered User
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For self defense you have to prove your life was in imminent danger.
I didn't see any of that in the video.
I would bet the vast majority of people claiming self defense is not self defense. They feel all powerful with a gun, they pull it out illegally and then get a happy trigger finger. If you pull a gun out, they better have a knife or gun pointed at you. Imagine carrying a gun for self defense and that action puts you away for decades.
Anyone who carry's, they need to research the laws. Its crazy what you can do and can't. And its state by state
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10-02-2023, 10:08 AM #28Honk Honk
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Not self defense, imo.
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10-02-2023, 10:11 AM #29Bonrard
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Yeah he jumped the barrier to go after some guy, the group stopped him and let him go, he gets back over the barrier and creates distance/an obstacle then decides to shoot. Not self defense at all. Especially since it escalated due to him going after another guy in the first place. A guy with a gun can't chase someone to start fights like that.Originally Posted by Kraken
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10-02-2023, 10:13 AM #30Originally Posted by Immichaelski
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