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    Originally Posted by metroins View Post
    Mexicans are generally liked if not illegal. First generation are dirty but second generations assimilate well.

    Blacks haven't assimilated ever, slavery isn't an excuse for their behavior.

    Trans need to be culled. It's a severe mental illness and they mess with kids. Drag shows at gay clubs are OK because everyone can have a kink but the new trans need to be culled.
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    Is it basically a large version of that episode 'Herogasm' where the creators were pushing to see how shocking they could be? If so I might give 1-2 episodes a try but I feel like I'll get bored after that.
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    Originally Posted by Dontknomyass2 View Post
    Tbh it could just be a form of shapeshifting rather than woke. Haven't finished watching the show and haven't saw any of the first episode yet though. Still room for that character to be a regular shapeshifter similar to Mystique from X-men or Beast Boy Teen Titans.
    Bro there's literally a conflict in the show because the supe wants to choose his gender and be free to be a girl but he's getting pressured by his family to stay as a boy and make them proud. This literally cannot be more on the nose as a representation for transgenderism lol
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Bro there's literally a conflict in the show because the supe wants to choose his gender and be free to be a girl but he's getting pressured by his family to stay as a boy and make them proud. This literally cannot be more on the nose as a representation for transgenderism lol
    the dad always raised a boy since the powers only establish later in life so he struggles with the female form, the supe itself is comfortable switching but has never expressed feeling like a female imo (?) so she does it at the party to spite the dad, what teens tend to do

    if you really want to I guess you can dig into it and make it about trannies and wokeism and morality but I don't think it's blatantly so

    if this alone is reason to label the entire series as woke garbage you're gonna have a hard time finding anything that fits your agenda

    unrelated, how do you rate The last of Us 2 then lol
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    I watched a bit, it's ok.

    Theres some wokeness but I think some of it also just classic overused teenage tropes, ie - cutting yourself, trying to please/piss off your parents, the chick who throws up... These are like classic teenager things. I don't really think they are woke necessarily.

    As far as the gender swapper... Idk I guess it could be woke, but the character is Asian and we all know how Asians like their sons over their daughters. I don't think in 2023 it's going to be possible to do something gender related without being called woke, period. If this show was 15 years ago no one would be crying that the gender swapping kid was woke. We would all just assume he transforms to a boy because his Asian parents didn't want a girl? Maybe idk.

    As far as the debauchery... I think that's the idea of the boys universe. The "heroes" are the most degen and use their powers to get off more than they do to save anyone. I would expect that to be ramped up quite a bit more when focusing on immature teenagers, I think it makes sense they are even more fukked than the boys.

    Idk it's an OK show, I don't think it needs to cry woke tooooooo bad but I can also understand why it turns some people away. I'll keep watching for now
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    Originally Posted by TokenV View Post
    if this alone is reason to label the entire series as woke garbage you're gonna have a hard time finding anything that fits your agenda
    The thing is people don't want anything to fit an agenda. They want escapism that doesn't preach at them or condescend to them or bring up annoying "hot button issues" that they're force-fed on a daily basis 24/7.

    How hard is that to understand, ph@660t? Not everyone wants to watch "Euphoria x The Cucked Amazon Version of the Boys"
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    Originally Posted by CrimsonSteel View Post
    The thing is people don't want anything to fit an agenda. They want escapism that doesn't preach at them or condescend to them or bring up annoying "hot button issues" that they're force-fed on a daily basis 24/7.

    How hard is that to understand, ph@660t? Not everyone wants to watch "Euphoria x The Cucked Amazon Version of the Boys"
    you missed my point

    I'm saying the show isn't overly pushing any agenda at all, yet people seem to search for chit that doesn't fit their agenda living rentfree

    have you even watched the show?

    The Boys series is waaaaaaaay more agenda pushing woke chit than Gen V

    so far at least I hope it stays this way
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    Honestly the most obnoxious thing about the first episode is everyone thinking the fire dude was a chad when he was actually flubby as fuk
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    Originally Posted by freeburn View Post
    Honestly the most obnoxious thing about the first episode is everyone thinking the fire dude was a chad when he was actually flubby as fuk
    You'd think with him having Arnold's genes he'd be jacked giga chad
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    Originally Posted by Jax05 View Post
    You'd think with him having Arnold's genes he'd be jacked giga chad
    thats Arnolds kid?

    Also episode 1 wasn't bad. Just can't stand the phukin pop music.
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    Originally Posted by Jax05 View Post
    You'd think with him having Arnold's genes he'd be jacked giga chad
    look at the mother
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    Yeah show def isn't for me. Teenage version of The Boys pretty much. And annoyed the black chick and Asian chick didn't make out. cringed when he switched to male.
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    Originally Posted by TokenV View Post
    I've seen the 4 episodes that are out atm, there is no wokeness at all

    the people crying woke ITT haven't seen the show or quit after a couple of minutes

    what I gathered:

    - one of the main characters is a black woman -> conclusion: it MUST be woke since IRL this demographic doesn't exist

    - one of the supes has the ability to swap gender -> this has never been done before and MUST be pushing the transgender agenda HARD

    - they show a penis -> this is absolutely degen and MUST be an attempt to turn people gay

    it's pathetic really

    in the main series (The Boys) I can at least agree with the reasining to call certain aspects woke, in Gen V I honestly can't (again, in the first 4 episodes, not saying it can't turn out like woke crap later but so far it's fine)

    Again I haven't watched it but the parts I've seen are actually "woke" (even though I dislike that word).



    The entire premise of this scene is a white male terrorist overcome by media that says "keep America safe again!" as a slogan. The radicalized white male then goes on to shoot an innocent middle eastern man.


    Are you... trying to convince me the underlying tones here aren't written by a left leaning person trying to convey their own narrative here? This isn't a leftist propaganda-styled wet dream?

    This is the exact narrative left leaning writers constantly try to get at. Another recent example were the episodes of the new Lord of the Rings series.
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    Originally Posted by 3fifty View Post
    Again I haven't watched it but the parts I've seen are actually "woke" (even though I dislike that word).



    The entire premise of this scene is a white male terrorist overcome by media that says "keep America safe again!" as a slogan. The radicalized white male then goes on to shoot an innocent middle eastern man.


    Are you... trying to convince me the underlying tones here aren't written by a left leaning person trying to convey their own narrative here? This isn't a leftist propaganda-styled wet dream?

    This is the exact narrative left leaning writers constantly try to get at. Another recent example were the episodes of the new Lord of the Rings series.
    I mean you can take it personally and be offended like a male Karen or realize they are making satire of exactly what does happen with the politics and media in America.

    As someone who doesn't give a chit about politics I don't get offended. You really going to act like radicalized ass white dudes haven't been shooting up places in America? Why be offended? It's simply a play on real things that have happened. There's been an insane amount of racial and political driven shootings exactly like that video. To deny it is absurd. It bothers you because it's true.

    Polticial weirdos just out here complaining about narratives and left learners and whatever cringe chit and can't even enjoy a tv show because of their own personal inner political crisis LOL
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    I mean you can take it personally and be offended like a male Karen or realize they are making satire of exactly what does happen with the politics and media in America.

    As someone who doesn't give a chit about politics I don't get offended. You really going to act like radicalized ass white dudes haven't been shooting up places in America? Why be offended? It's simply a play on real things that have happened. There's been an insane amount of racial and political driven shootings exactly like that video. To deny it is absurd. It bothers you because it's true.

    Polticial weirdos just out here complaining about narratives and left learners and whatever cringe chit and can't even enjoy a tv show because of their own personal inner political crisis LOL
    That's cuz ur a pussy. We go to shows for escapism, not commentary on modern culture trends we aleady see and hear about daily.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    That's cuz ur a pussy. We go to shows for escapism, not commentary on modern culture trends we aleady see and hear about daily.
    I just don't really get offended by fiction.

    I turn off plenty of things that are too woke to enjoy. I just didn't think the first episode (that's all I've seen) was really THAT bad. Sure some is cringe but I've seen way worse out there.

    Either way the scene he posted is from the boys, not gen v. Did you turn it off when that little sub plot took place? It didn't bother me, i could totally see that happening if superheroes existed.

    Dudes just butthurt cuz "muh politicals". People like that don't enjoy anything that rustles their view point.
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    Originally Posted by freeburn View Post
    I mean you can take it personally and be offended like a male Karen or realize they are making satire of exactly what does happen with the politics and media in America.

    As someone who doesn't give a chit about politics I don't get offended. You really going to act like radicalized ass white dudes haven't been shooting up places in America? Why be offended? It's simply a play on real things that have happened. There's been an insane amount of racial and political driven shootings exactly like that video. To deny it is absurd. It bothers you because it's true.

    Polticial weirdos just out here complaining about narratives and left learners and whatever cringe chit and can't even enjoy a tv show because of their own personal inner political crisis LOL
    I never said I was offended, I'm sitting here just casually browsing and replying. It's a sign that you don't have a real argument if you use a straw man argument.


    White guys actually commit fewer hate crimes than black guys, statistically, when adjusted for population sizes in the US. That's part of the narrative that is a bit backwards and what you may not understand. Shows like this repeat a myth that white men are doing this stuff at unusual numbers; they aren't. White people in the US are statistically less violent, less religious, commit fewer hate crimes, they're more in shape, and less extreme on nearly all fronts than their counterparts.

    Which is fine. I don't care about much of that, but, most normal people are getting annoyed that myths are repeated in TV shows this often, confusing the more easily confused percent of the population, like yourself. It seems as if you support pushing this narrative, especially when you spend this much time defending the TV show.
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    Originally Posted by 3fifty View Post
    I never said I was offended, I'm sitting here just casually browsing and replying. It's a sign that you don't have a real argument if you use a straw man argument.


    White guys actually commit fewer hate crimes than black guys, statistically, when adjusted for population sizes in the US. That's part of the narrative that is a bit backwards and what you may not understand. Shows like this repeat a myth that white men are doing this stuff at unusual numbers; they aren't. White people in the US are statistically less violent, less religious, commit fewer hate crimes, they're more in shape, and less extreme on nearly all fronts than their counterparts.

    Which is fine. I don't care about much of that, but, most normal people are getting annoyed that myths are repeated in TV shows this often, confusing the more easily confused percent of the population, like yourself. It seems as if you support pushing this narrative, especially when you spend this much time defending the TV show.
    My b I didn't mean to come off hard like a doo doo head outta the gate.

    Lol bro we can sit here and talk about statistics but it doesn't change anything. It's just what they'd decided to make into a small subplot for an episode. There's a million shows about black people killing eachother in the hood too.

    It's fiction.

    Idk bro the point is to detach yourself from reality a bit, it's a show about superheroes.
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    Originally Posted by freeburn View Post
    My b I didn't mean to come off hard like a doo doo head outta the gate.

    Lol bro we can sit here and talk about statistics but it doesn't change anything. It's just what they'd decided to make into a small subplot for an episode. There's a million shows about black people killing eachother in the hood too.

    It's fiction.

    Idk bro the point is to detach yourself from reality a bit, it's a show about superheroes.
    All good.


    The point is that this isn't simply a white guy shooting someone, it's the narrative behind it. The narrative that some on the left keep trying to push is that white people are so much more prone to extremism, bigotry, racism, you name it, and that they're a problem to be solved.

    Scenes like this reinforce that false narrative, and it's most often done by a writer who WANTS to reinforce that narrative because of a bias they have. They want people to think that.


    Remove the subtle narrative pushing and I have no problem with the scene. You don't see narratives against black people in movies almost ever in the last 15+ years, but you constantly see a negative narrative about white guys. It gets old.
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    Originally Posted by 3fifty View Post
    Again I haven't watched it but the parts I've seen are actually "woke" (even though I dislike that word).

    [youtube]KZVAFPPMZY4[youtube]

    The entire premise of this scene is a white male terrorist overcome by media that says "keep America safe again!" as a slogan. The radicalized white male then goes on to shoot an innocent middle eastern man.


    Are you... trying to convince me the underlying tones here aren't written by a left leaning person trying to convey their own narrative here? This isn't a leftist propaganda-styled wet dream?

    This is the exact narrative left leaning writers constantly try to get at. Another recent example were the episodes of the new Lord of the Rings series.
    the scene you're posting is from the main series "The Boys", the thread is about a new spin-off series "Gen V" with only 4 episodes out so far

    I've mentioned a few times ITT already that I also noticed quite a few woke elements being shoehorned into "The Boys", especially in the later seasons

    but as far as the spin-off "Gen V" is concerned I'm not inclined to call it woke (up to ep.4)
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    Originally Posted by TokenV View Post
    yeah the comics are A LOT more degen than the show lol

    comic and series spoilers below

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    Do you think the comics are better than the both shows?
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    Originally Posted by Dontknomyass2 View Post
    Do you think the comics are better than the both shows?
    Comic is way better. Show started off strong until it became so politically focused. The comic wasn't focused on bashing either "side," it was focused on bashing superheroes and comic books in general.
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    Originally Posted by CrimsonSteel View Post
    Comic is way better. Show started off strong until it became so politically focused. The comic wasn't focused on bashing either "side," it was focused on bashing superheroes and comic books in general.
    Yeah that's a great way to put it
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    thats Arnolds kid?
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    Originally Posted by Dontknomyass2 View Post
    Do you think the comics are better than the both shows?

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    OK so about the wokeness...

    30 seconds into episode 2

    The publicist lady from the boys is talking about the incident from episode 1

    Someone brings up The gender swapper about joining the seven

    She says "oh a bi gender Asian with pronoun ****ery, try selling that to Dallas or fort Lauderdale"

    ... Here she is saying **** no to a gender pronoun hero... Idk not exactly praising the wokeness?

    Idk just sayin... Clearly the writers have some self awareness
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    I really like The Boys so I tried to watch this but just can't. It's complete trash as most spinoffs usually are. Oh well...
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    Originally Posted by TryingMen View Post
    I really like The Boys so I tried to watch this but just can't. It's complete trash as most spinoffs usually are. Oh well...
    Yeahhh kinda clear this is kinda for a younger less mature audience. Pretty much everything is school and social media. Not great.

    I preferred the animated shorts, those were pretty cool
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    Originally Posted by freeburn View Post
    Yeahhh kinda clear this is kinda for a younger less mature audience. Pretty much everything is school and social media. Not great.

    I preferred the animated shorts, those were pretty cool
    I'm surprised they didn't come out with a Season 2 yet. I enjoyed the dark humor. Also surprised and kind of not surprised Seth Rogen is behind some of these projects. Always enjoyed his stuff but then I found out what kind of person he was politically behind the scenes. BIG sad. But everyones free to support whatever they like.

    Also for dark humor related stuff Smiling Friends/Captain Fall for dark humor related animation
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