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    Thumbs up Newsom v DeSantis to debate 11/30

    The two governors will debate in-person on Nov. 30 in Georgia, the network said Monday. Fox News anchor Sean Hannity will moderate, as the 90-minute-long show will air during the 9 p.m. ET time slot of his show, “Hannity.”


    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...1heWWe#image=1



    Who you got Misc?


    Can Newsome even defend his failed policies?


    Will we hear him call DeSantis a fascist?



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    High risk / high reward for DeSantis. Every chance Newsom would clown him. From what I hear, DeSantis didn't do so well in one-on-one debates when he ran for governor. But with his campaign falling for months now, he has to take the chance.
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    DeSantis is still running for president? Shocking development.
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    This is a bad idea, not because it involves DeSantis, but because it will boost Gavin Newsom's visibility. The DNC might be looking to jettison Biden and this clamor will increase if Gavin does well.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    This is a bad idea, not because it involves DeSantis, but because it will boost Gavin Newsom's visibility. The DNC might be looking to jettison Biden and this clamor will increase if Gavin does well.

    OR

    The negative impact he will get if he is fact checked over and over on his lies?


    idk if i like Hannity to moderate though, lately it seems he chearleads for Gavin


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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    This is a bad idea, not because it involves DeSantis, but because it will boost Gavin Newsom's visibility. The DNC might be looking to jettison Biden and this clamor will increase if Gavin does well.


    Based Newsome 2024 would be great. Finally a candidate under 70 to vote for.
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    Originally Posted by bluebeltATT View Post
    OR

    The negative impact he will get if he is fact checked over and over on his lies?


    idk if i like Hannity to moderate though, lately it seems he chearleads for Gavin


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    Newsom is smooth af and not dumb. I doubt he made to look like an *sshole. It's perception too. Even if he "loses" on the facts he can still win - see JFK vs Nixon debate.
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    Huge possibility for DeSantis. Instead of trying to get in the mud with Trump, or talk among a panel with others all saying similar things…he can contrast one of the best-run states with one of the worst. Some of the issues voters will get to see debated.

    Cost of living - DeSantis wins

    Avoiding lockdowns and mandates - DeSantis(added bonus he gets to point out how many democrats were visiting his states while leaving their constituents back home locked down)

    Education - DeSantis

    Supply chain issue navigation - DeSantis wins(added bonus he gets to remind people that he invited the ships off the coast of Cali. Waiting over a month to unload, to come to FL and quickly get unloaded)

    Fighting clown world and LGBTBBQ+GRROOMERS - DeSantis wins

    Housing affordability(and homelessness) - DeSantis wins

    Dealing with natural disasters - DeSantis wins

    Illegal immigration - DeSantis wins

    Unemployment - DeSantis wins(13th vs 49th)…added bonus for calling out how people are fleeing FROM CA in droves while fleeing TO FL in droves



    Basically every single issue FL has handled not only better, but much MUCH better than CA.
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    Originally Posted by Phil9 View Post
    Based Newsome 2024 would be great. Finally a candidate under 70 to vote for.

    Which of his policies have been good for California?
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    Huge possibility for DeSantis. Instead of trying to get in the mud with Trump, or talk among a panel with others all saying similar things…he can contrast one of the best-run states with one of the worst. Some of the issues voters will get to see debated.

    Cost of living - DeSantis wins

    Avoiding lockdowns and mandates - DeSantis(added bonus he gets to point out how many democrats were visiting his states while leaving their constituents back home locked down)

    Education - DeSantis

    Supply chain issue navigation - DeSantis wins(added bonus he gets to remind people that he invited the ships off the coast of Cali. Waiting over a month to unload, to come to FL and quickly get unloaded)

    Fighting clown world and LGBTBBQ+GRROOMERS - DeSantis wins

    Housing affordability(and homelessness) - DeSantis wins

    Dealing with natural disasters - DeSantis wins

    Illegal immigration - DeSantis wins

    Unemployment - DeSantis wins(13th vs 49th)…added bonus for calling out how people are fleeing FROM CA in droves while fleeing TO FL in droves



    Basically every single issue FL has handled not only better, but much MUCH better than CA.

    Newson wins on Gas prices. Nowhere else has it risen quite as fast as California
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    Originally Posted by jtaylor2010 View Post
    Huge possibility for DeSantis. Instead of trying to get in the mud with Trump, or talk among a panel with others all saying similar things…he can contrast one of the best-run states with one of the worst. Some of the issues voters will get to see debated.

    Cost of living - DeSantis wins

    Avoiding lockdowns and mandates - DeSantis(added bonus he gets to point out how many democrats were visiting his states while leaving their constituents back home locked down)

    Education - DeSantis

    Supply chain issue navigation - DeSantis wins(added bonus he gets to remind people that he invited the ships off the coast of Cali. Waiting over a month to unload, to come to FL and quickly get unloaded)

    Fighting clown world and LGBTBBQ+GRROOMERS - DeSantis wins

    Housing affordability(and homelessness) - DeSantis wins

    Dealing with natural disasters - DeSantis wins

    Illegal immigration - DeSantis wins

    Unemployment - DeSantis wins(13th vs 49th)…added bonus for calling out how people are fleeing FROM CA in droves while fleeing TO FL in droves



    Basically every single issue FL has handled not only better, but much MUCH better than CA.

    It also wouldn't hurt if he got with someone who can give him pointers on having charisma.

    It isn't just his winning policies that will get him over the finish line, it's about optics too


    Look at how the left fawns over Newsom because of his looks despite all of his horrible policies
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    This is good for Ron. It separates him from the Non-Trump pack
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    This is good for Ron. It separates him from the Non-Trump pack


    Dude has cratered since his announcement. The primaries are pretty much a race for the silver medal at this point.
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    Don’t care much about how DeSantis does. I just want Newsom to look like an idiot. He can probably lie through his teeth like usual and the media will be out to save him though.
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    Dude has cratered since his announcement. The primaries are pretty much a race for the silver medal at this point.
    The only time you don't use the word Trump


    So you admit he is going to be the nominee?
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    This is UTTERLY STUPID for DeSantis and Republicans. Newsome will kill him, that guy is way too slick for Rick. Rick has NOTHING TO GAIN from this. Newsome and Dems have everything to gain. Newsome will gain a ton of popularity from this and give the Dems a backup plan for Biden. what a stupid ass idea by Ron, he's undercutting his entire party.
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    Originally Posted by dabbmw2002 View Post
    This is a bad idea, not because it involves DeSantis, but because it will boost Gavin Newsom's visibility. The DNC might be looking to jettison Biden and this clamor will increase if Gavin does well.
    Bingo. this is PERFECT for the DNC. DeSantis is being used.
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    If Shy Ronnie can actually whup Newsom in the debate instead of folding like he did with Crist, he will deserve a lot of credit.

    Newsom is a serious threat in 2024. Dude is a slick operator. Doesn't matter how bad California is. Suburban white women would vote for him in droves. He could even beat Trump in 2024 IMO.
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    sounds like a test run for two possible front runners in the 2024 election. thefixisin.jpg
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    Newsom has a chit load more charisma than desantis.

    This will prob look like a Bill Clinton George H debate
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    Originally Posted by bluebeltATT View Post
    The only time you don't use the word Trump


    So you admit he is going to be the nominee?

    You seem a little lost. I've never claimed DeSantis would beat Trump. Granted, I did initially think he would give Trump more of a challenge than he did but he couldn't even pull off being a halfway competitive primary opponent. That's on Rick's lack of charisma and messaging. Dude is truly a rookie once he leaves the Florida border. At this point, he may want to leave the race before Florida runs their primary, he would probably be done for good nationally if he can't even win his home state.
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    Based Newsome 2024 would be great. Finally a candidate under 70 to vote for.
    Oh yeah? What do you like about him and his policies?
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    Originally Posted by freeheeler View Post
    Which of his policies have been good for California?
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    Oh yeah? What do you like about him and his policies?

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    Originally Posted by DeshaunWatson View Post
    Oh yeah? What do you like about him and his policies?
    His policies are trash- as well as their results

    But...

    His charisma will win over women and soy's
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    Newsom talks in circles more eloquently than anyone. After he's done talking you can't remember what your question was.

    It's like...



    Originally Posted by gachase21 View Post
    His policies are trash- as well as their results

    But...

    His charisma will win over women and soy's
    MSNBC: He is so presidential.

    I do believe that DeSantis will challenge Newsom on the results of his poor policies.
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    And now that California running a deficit and no longer the fifth biggest economy on the planet

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    More people leaving than arriving apart from illegal scum

    Human sh it and pi$$ on the streets of every major city

    And let's not talk about Covid when he closed businesses and only him and friends could be outside without masks while others were arrested for doing the same as him

    But, women do like his hair
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    This will be interesting. Newsome is for sure smoother but DeSantis....if he hits him with the right facts.....which are there for all to see.....could destroy him.
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    If Shy Ronnie can actually whup Newsom in the debate instead of folding like he did with Crist, he will deserve a lot of credit.

    Newsom is a serious threat in 2024. Dude is a slick operator. Doesn't matter how bad California is. Suburban white women would vote for him in droves. He could even beat Trump in 2024 IMO.
    First of all, Biden has to NOT RUN in 2024. And I am on record saying that he will not run and that Newsome will be the guy for the Dems.

    This is why all of these polls between Biden and Trump are pointless.

    BIDEN IS NOT RUNNING in 2024.
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