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    A primary reason Ocarina of Time is so enjoyable….

    is it is easy af to beat, but gives the illusion you have to actually figure stuff out and solve problems.

    It is a false sense of accomplishment.

    Think about it….


    Even though it contains open world exploration, giving the illusion of choice in the plot, the story is very linear and you are constantly guided in the only direction.

    The dungeons have some fun puzzles, but they do not take long to figure out.

    Bosses become super easy once you figure out the one or two attacks they have.

    It is easy af to beat. The hardest part sometimes is waiting. Waiting while you traverse Hyrule Field, while you drag blocks slowly, waiting for the owl to stop talking etc.



    There are some parts that are difficult to figure out. For example dumping the fish in front of Jabu Jabu so he sucks you up. Nothing tells you to do that at all, you literally just have to keep throwing spaghetti at the wall to find the way in until you do this.

    For the most part though, the answer is obvious, but hidden just enough to make it seem like you had to work for it.
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    Have you ever played Okami?

    I played it on PS2 back in the day. supposedly very similar to zelda. quit cuz I put about 40 hours in. googled much longer and I wasn't even 30% finished or something.

    beautiful game though.
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    Originally Posted by andrepmeet View Post
    Have you ever played Okami?

    I played it on PS2 back in the day. supposedly very similar to zelda. quit cuz I put about 40 hours in. googled much longer and I wasn't even 30% finished or something.

    beautiful game though.
    never heard of it.

    I may try to bring it up on an emulator when I have time.

    Haven’t played games in a long time though. Thanks for sharing.
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    its not easy when you are 12 and its like one of the first video games you've ever played.

    took years to beat the water temple srs lol
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    I agree. Back then as a kid it was a big mind fuk. But now being older I can realize that it wasn't as hard as I thought or was as difficult as I was making it.
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    That game also came out at the perfect time, pushing the action/RPG genre forward.
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    never beat it

    was hard af

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    Originally Posted by AWillis View Post
    never beat it

    was hard af

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    My only problem was how it was often one of those games you could easily get lost in, like not knowing where to go or what to do.
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    its not easy when you are 12 and its like one of the first video games you've ever played.

    took years to beat the water temple srs lol
    this

    OP was probably using guides

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    My only problem was how it was often one of those games you could easily get lost in, like not knowing where to go or what to do.
    Jet Force Gemini was another amazing game. got lost in that one too. must have been near the end

    dead fkn srs

    but zelda i didn't get to the fire dungeon

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    Originally Posted by AWillis View Post
    Jet Force Gemini was another amazing game. got lost in that one too. must have been near the end

    dead fkn srs

    but zelda i didn't get to the fire dungeon

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    Yeah I never beat it either lol
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    Feel like most of the people who didn't beat Ocarina of Time, either didn't play it a lot/like it, or just didn't spend a lot of time playing video games in general to have that natural game sense.

    Going into a game like Ocarina is probably a lot more difficult if you've only played a couple games before. Think I was 12... 13 when it came out? But I had already beaten 3 Zelda games by that point plus god knows how many others so other than a few confusing dungeons, it was pretty easy, particularly the boss fights, which I was annoyed with being so lame even back then. Zelda franchise has been hamstrung by the Ocarina boss formula ever since.


    I'll still take ALTTP over Ocarina as best Zelda game.
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    As mentioned above, the water temple was a nightmare, and everyone in my school was talking about it and sharing tips when the game first came out.
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    Funnily enough I'm doing a first play through of Ocarina of Time on my N64 right now - owned the game for like 5 years but never played it past the deku tree mission before.

    Am really enjoying it much more this time now I'm not looking at a guide.

    Looking at a guide makes it incredibly dull and uninteresting, but without the guide its truly fun and you can appreciate what they developed. Brings some challenge!
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    There are some parts that are difficult to figure out. For example dumping the fish in front of Jabu Jabu so he sucks you up. Nothing tells you to do that at all, you literally just have to keep throwing spaghetti at the wall to find the way in until you do this.
    Lol, that part took me ages to figure out. I remember standing in front of him doing different attacks thinking it would break open his mouth somehow.
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    never heard of it.

    I may try to bring it up on an emulator when I have time.

    Haven’t played games in a long time though. Thanks for sharing.
    here's how it looked. imo the best games ever were Ico & its sequel shadow of the colossus. theres a 3rd one that game out but don't play games anymore.

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    Funnily enough I'm doing a first play through of Ocarina of Time on my N64 right now - owned the game for like 5 years but never played it past the deku tree mission before.

    Am really enjoying it much more this time now I'm not looking at a guide.

    Looking at a guide makes it incredibly dull and uninteresting, but without the guide its truly fun and you can appreciate what they developed. Brings some challenge!
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    Challenge? Age 29..
    Did I ever claim not to be retarded?
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    Challenge? Age 29..
    I played Chrono Trigger and FF6 late, and do not regret it. The challenge isn't as bad obviously, but it's definitely worth looking into old games that are iconic, and understanding what made them so, IMO.
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    the jabu jabu fish thing and something about shooting an arrow into the sun were the most challenging. pretty sure I looked those up

    finishing that game is like breaking off a long term relationship
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    Originally Posted by bicmane102 View Post
    its not easy when you are 12 and its like one of the first video games you've ever played.

    took years to beat the water temple srs lol
    This. Fkn water temple made me stop playing for a while.
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    It was one of the first true 3D games. Imagine only playing 2D games and then getting that game. It was like riding a unicycle one day then flying a plane the next day

    Also it wasn’t as common for families to have computer/internet access back then. When you got stuck in the game you either kept trying random chit until you figured it out, then maybe you asked someone at school the next day. Very different than now where it’s too tempting to look up an answer after getting stuck for 2 mins

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    I just beat it for this first time earlier this year playing on my switch.

    I never got to beat it when I was younger. My older bro would always play and I would just have to watch/ help in the background lol.

    I was actually thinking exactly what OP said. It’s actually pretty straightforward lol. But I also remembered a lot of stuff from when I was kid.

    The fish thing was obvious to me, even back then. It was kinda a play on Jonah and the Whale from the bibble.

    The water temple was incredibly frustrating. I don’t think I used a guide, but I had to call my friend and ask him wtf I was doing wrong, cuz he just replayed it as well.
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    Originally Posted by Ironmanlet View Post
    There are some parts that are difficult to figure out.
    For the most part though, the answer is obvious, but hidden just enough to make it seem like you had to work for it.
    This is exactly what I want from a single player video game.

    I play games to relax and enjoy some downtime, not beat my head against a wall unable to figure something out or get past a boss for days.
    I call it "Celebration". It's sexual, and violent...

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