Russia vs Ukraine Thread IV: A Civil War, oops wrong Country

[Stizzel]

Did they want Kyiv? Or Kherson?

Nah

[jackamo2887]

Nah

PrOpAgAnDa

[Stizzel]

PrOpAgAnDa

Yawn

[memcop]

Did they want Kyiv? Or Kherson?

Russia never had a force large enough to take Kyiv and only now they do. 30k v 3,000,000 doesn't pan out. The real story is they likely wanted to fix Ukrainian forces as they wouldn't respond to the south or Donbas while keeping and holding a bridgehead from Belarus north of the city in an attempt to threaten a decapitation.

Russia will not fight outside of doctrinal formation. Any threat of loss triggers a fallback to themselves bolstering a defensive line, period. Likewise the timing lines up with negotiations but that doesn't mean it's why they left. If they were never going to attack and the Ukrainians fought back like hell, why would they stay in accordance with doctrine.

False notions of how you think Russia fights is harmful. They can get their ass handed to them but they won't stay and let it continue. The Kharkov offensive was immensely costly to Ukraine in men and equipment. There was hardly any resistance until the Ukrainians hit their fallback like in Kreminna which to this day cannot be recovered. Much is to be said in similarity to "defending" Kyiv however Russians set off millions of artillery rounds at Ukrainians during that offensive.

Kherson is fishy and it is clear the intent was to move behind a geographical boundary in the end. The vdv held a bridgehead and the previous (to Surovikin) staff liked wanted it held to head towards Odessa bit the Ukrainian resistance was too strong.

These are complex issues just as Ukraine was ejected from the landbridge doesn't mean they are a great fighting force however, them slamming into large Russian fortifications is, on its face, foolish. The Russians waited and prepared for this for9 months.

[memcop]

Well, if turbovatniks are admitting that Russia ran out of tanks and they need to fire up their imaginary factories then schit must be indeed dire.

Ukraine can do the same, no?

[memcop]

This is the lamest fuking war. Srs. What the fuk is even the point? Jfl if either side blows up the nuclear plant. JFL

All because some Ukrainians decided to larp as nazis and wouldn't let other Ukrainians speak Russian. Bruh wtf?

The only thing it did was take Russia's poverty military and give it a purpose, industry, investment, and added manpower.

Is Russia more or less dangerous than when this started? There are hundreds of thousands of reserves in the Donbas alone, the same in Zaporizhzhia.

[chalup]

says the vegan low-test talmudic circumsized pehdo soy rabbi.

Remind me how long it took Russia to take Bakmut? Didn’t russia literally LOSE Kherson during their last “offensive”?

Lmao bruh

[chalup]

The only thing it did was take Russia's poverty military and give it a purpose, industry, investment, and added manpower.

Is Russia more or less dangerous than when this started? There are hundreds of thousands of reserves in the Donbas alone, the same in Zaporizhzhia.

Russias military is/was poverty to you now? Aren’t you the same dude who quoted Macgragor in stating Russia would win in 48 hours a YEAR AGO? Have you finally descended into straight up shiet posting?

[memcop]

3 factories producing 70's soviet tech poverty arms VS the combined west producing quantity and quality.

LMFAO at this vatnik third world cope

Awkward.

You're literally quoting a post with mass BMD-4 production (in service since 2005) and T90M platforms (in service since 2017).

I suppose it makes sense on why you have your view on the war.

[memcop]

Russias military is/was poverty to you now? Aren’t you the same dude who quoted Macgragor in stating Russia would win in 48 hours a YEAR AGO? Have you finally descended into straight up shiet posting?

You're an idiot.

Srs

[memcop]

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/...xKbn9AFuw&s=19

Is this a new contender for Russian cartwheel distance? Might be further than the mortar one.

[foXs]

Reality will hit your face sooner or later anyway.

Maybe you should pay a closer attention to your home before worrying about Russia’s collapse.

Your own media reporting 20% food inflation, rising cost of living increases, interest rate increases and now your people are running out of money.
Russian money left UK, and I’m sure many to follow as you are no longer a safe place to keep your money in.
Bruv, your country is already a 2nd world, imagine another 5 years.

[foXs]

Gotta love the commentator’s comments in that video.

“Are we a poor country pretending to be rich?”

Another commentator talking about visiting Poland and saying that it looked richer than many of UK’s cities

Lmao, fuking Poland.

[ghostfacedup]

Remind me how long it took Russia to take Bakmut?

how do you still not understand Russia's objectives? so utterly stupid.

[memcop]

how do you still not understand Russia's objectives? so utterly stupid.

In reality, it was about three months. Watch from February 8th. They only committed then.

https://youtu.be/C04CXV1gqXw

[Zelensky]

[Abzu]

Exactly. He's the most despised poster i've ever seen here. There are legit like 4 or 5 people at most who don't think he is anything more than a complete retard.

Bohdy is probably the worst poster on this forum.

I don't think I have ever responded to him lol.

At least Nolibs, NYPat and JLC are fun.

[phaginator]

The russian people are ready to roll up their sleaves and participate in the war economy.

Meanwhile France is rioting and economists are writing about how the deindustrialization of Germany (which means all of Europe) has begun. Your cope won't save you

LMFAO you dumb tard, Rheinmetal and other defense companies are EXPANDING.

Cope all you want but western europe by itself alone has MUCH higher industrial capacity than poverty Ruzzia.

And that's a fact, look up the numbers

[Putinist]

Maybe you should pay a closer attention to your home before worrying about Russia’s collapse.

Your own media reporting 20% food inflation, rising cost of living increases, interest rate increases and now your people are running out of money.
Russian money left UK, and I’m sure many to follow as you are no longer a safe place to keep your money in.
Bruv, your country is already a 2nd world, imagine another 5 years.

This isn't really Germany's fault. America blew up the pipeline and forced them to go along with everything. Their people are suffering too because of our decision.

[Putinist]

LMFAO you dumb tard, Rheinmetal and other defense companies are EXPANDING.

Cope all you want but western europe by itself alone has MUCH higher industrial capacity than poverty Ruzzia.

And that's a fact, look up the numbers

You're German right? Question. Do you really fear Russia attacking you? Even with us there?

[phaginator]

yes, losing, even though they already control most of what they want. do you know anything about the peace agreement when Russia had soldiers headed to Kiev? no, because you only listen to propaganda. dumb sheep.

AHAHAHAHAH!!! THE FCKING COOOOPE SUPREME!!



"L..Lord Putler didn't want Kiev bro"



Meanwhile reality:

[phaginator]

You're German right? Question. Do you really fear Russia attacking you? Even with us there?

Ich bin keine deutscher du schwuchtel.

Nobody in europe is afraid of Russia after their humiliation in their poverty neighbouring country/10. Only thing they have are nukes.

If it came to an actual conventional war, we wouldn't need americans to defeat them.

[PimpinisEasy]

Maybe you should pay a closer attention to your home before worrying about Russia’s collapse.

Your own media reporting 20% food inflation, rising cost of living increases, interest rate increases and now your people are running out of money.
Russian money left UK, and I’m sure many to follow as you are no longer a safe place to keep your money in.
Bruv, your country is already a 2nd world, imagine another 5 years.

The UK is not a poor country.

We have a situation where there are pockets of affluence and large amounts of poor people.

The media always focuses on the poor people, but in reality there are areas with a lot of wealthy people. Primarily down in the South East. I work remotely in the South East and I don't tell my friends (where i live) how much I earn.

Although it's not like the US, where you have average guys making huge sums. In the UK you have to be skilled to make a lot of money.

Europe as a whole is in a period of decline however. The issue is multi-faceted. Some of the issues include:
- Over generous welfare
- Over generous pensions for the previous generation
- Too few kids
- High cost of energy/food
- A focus on LGBT, feminism and mental health has made thee next generation lazy and weak
- Overspending on foreign aid and military
- A lack of focus on STEM subjects; ther was twenty years or so where a huge number of people who went to Uni studied absolute nonsense.
- Growth in the leech class of people. The amoutn of people relying on the government has reach ridiculous levels. Something like 55% of the UK is deppendant on the government.
- Net Zero has harmed British industries.

[Putinist]

Ich bin keine deutscher du schwuchtel.

Nobody in europe is afraid of Russia after their humiliation in their poverty neighbouring country/10. Only thing they have are nukes.

If it came to an actual conventional war, we wouldn't need to americans to defeat them.

So you admit the claims he is trying to rebuild the USSR are crap then.

[PimpinisEasy]

Ich bin keine deutscher du schwuchtel.

Nobody in europe is afraid of Russia after their humiliation in their poverty neighbouring country/10. Only thing they have are nukes.

If it came to an actual conventional war, we wouldn't need americans to defeat them.

You think the youth of Europe will fight a hot war against Russia?

You're delusional the only alpha young people are ethnic minorities who wont fight.

[phaginator]

Maybe you should pay a closer attention to your home before worrying about Russia’s collapse.

Your own media reporting 20% food inflation, rising cost of living increases, interest rate increases and now your people are running out of money.
Russian money left UK, and I’m sure many to follow as you are no longer a safe place to keep your money in.
Bruv, your country is already a 2nd world, imagine another 5 years.

"Bu..bu...look at the UK bro, Ruzzia doing so much better bro"

Holy cope batman

I know you're braindead but if you actually thing UK has a worse economy than Ruzzia...just LOL at you srs. Or do you really want me to post facts vatnik?

Meanwhile the ruble collapsing:

OH NO NO NON ON NO NO NO NO ZISTERS WE'RE GETTING POORER!

[TrueTruth]

Russian bitches are freaking out right now over some drones flying in Moscow.

"muh terrorist attack"

But hundreds of drones they send to bomb Ukrainian residential buildings every day is all good in their book.

Russians must not know what hypocrisy is though, because they are a bunch of immoral braindead orcs who live by their own rules in their own fantasy schizoland. And then they wonder why no one wants to be friends with them and why they get isolated from the rest of the world.

[Putinist]

Russian bitches are freaking out right now over some drones flying in Moscow.

"muh terrorist attack"

But hundreds of drones they send to bomb Ukrainian residential buildings every day is all good in their book.

Russians must not know what hypocrisy is though, because they are a bunch of immoral braindead orcs who live by their own rules in their own fantasy schizoland. And then they wonder why no one wants to be friends with them and why they get isolated from the rest of the world.

If only America could learn this lesson.

Lettuce be real tea tho those Russian women have no real say in what Russia's govt does, unlike America's people.

[phaginator]

You think the youth of Europe will fight a hot war against Russia?

You're delusional the only alpha young people are ethnic minorities who wont fight.

Most ethnic minorities are low IQ durka's that at best are pizza delivery boys, they will get defeated in an afternoon if sh*t really hits the fan. Western euros are just too tolerant and cucked by laws, ethnics don't care about the law. But if society keeps deteriorating that can change very fast.

Also eastern euros will destroy any poverty ethnic living in the west. Most ethnics in western europe are also north africans and are smaller and weaker than the averarge european.

[phaginator]

WOT IS HAPPENNING ZZZIISSTERSSS?!!!! AAAGGGGGGGGGGG?!