Russia vs Ukraine Thread IV: A Civil War, oops wrong Country

[phaginator]

Vatcucks a bit upset they only lost land these last couple of weeks.


2 more weeks and Kieve will surely fall

[dabbmw2002]

ugh...

US estimate is 30.000 ukrainans dead and 150.000 wounded, 50.000 russians dead and 180.000 wounded.

And you can bet that the US is on the ukranian side and these numbers are a bit biased...

So the fact that your using ukranian sources is quite laugable, according to russian sources russia also barely lost 15.000 and the ukranians lost couple hundred thousand, you can't use biased sources lmao.

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[Stizzel]

Special forces of the Central Military District of the Russian Airborne Forces destroy saboteurs hiding on the outskirts near Artemovsk

Ukrainian saboteurs are trying to infiltrate abandoned buildings to correct artillery fire, but to no avail - the situation here is controlled by Russian fighters.

Approaching the building, the special forces move “trail to trail”, as the territory can be mined with NATO-made ammunition. Noticing a suspicious movement, the fighters throw a grenade into the room. If an enemy is seen nearby in a field or forest plantations, his coordinates are detected by means of optical reconnaissance and immediately transmitted to a command post for destruction. At the same time, the special forces themselves are trying to eliminate the enemy from small arms.

1 July 2023 on a tip from the scouts of the Dnepr group on the right-bank part of the Kherson region in the area of ​​the settlement. Cossack artillery of the 8th Artillery Regiment destroyed:

➖Ammunition depot, which stored more than 12 tons of ammunition for Western-made artillery systems.

➖Parking area, which housed about 40 units of military equipment, such as BMP-2 and Marder.

➖Point of permanent deployment, one of the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, where more than 50 militants were located.

[Noliberals4]

Ukrainecels constantly try to mock Russian equipment/soldiers/generals, yet Ukraine (backed by the US) is having next to no success (outside of taking barren farmland).

Lol at this cope. Holy chit.

[phaginator]

Lol at this cope. Holy chit.

Such is vatnik logic/10

[jackamo2887]

Ukrainecels constantly try to mock Russian equipment/soldiers/generals, yet Ukraine (backed by the US) is having next to no success (outside of taking barren farmland).

Defends kyiv from full scale russian invasion

No success

Retard crew gonna retard

[ReppinHoes69]

Still salvageable humvee, will be back on the battlefield in no time lmao

[BasedBagel]

https://files.catbox.moe/5x87dt.mp4

Ukrainian unit was hit by artillery while moving through a wood strip.

[BasedBagel]

Ukraine will receive dozens of Leopard 1A5 tanks from Germany and Denmark in the coming weeks — German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius in an interview with Rzeczpospolita.




Why not the Leopard 2?

[Stizzel]

Kiev is fully aware that the provocation at ZaES, which involves an attack by Ukrainian drones on dry waste storage (SHSF ), will cause the worst shock in the world in recent decades, a large amount of Ukrainian agricultural products will become dangerous for export, and the land will be polluted for years.

In addition, ex-Vice President Pence and then CIA chief Burns tried to convey Washington's concern about their plans to carry out a terrorist attack at a nuclear power plant to Zelensky and Yermak. It’s not that the Americans are very worried about the Ukrainian ecology, they are afraid that this provocation will push Moscow to use tactical nuclear weapons against the Armed Forces of Ukraine, to which the United States will have to respond, but they have nothing to respond with.

The American guests directly warned Bankova that a provocation at the ZaNPP would not induce the West to increase aid, and would not force NATO into conflict with Russia. However, the Ze-team decided to ignore Washington's demands to abandon the attack.

To a large extent, because British intelligence, pushing them to take this step, promises all the support of the United Kingdom, and assures that the terrorist attack will ensure the success of the landing operation on the left bank of the Dnieper.

Ukrainian sources claim that a provocation at the ZaES is planned from July 5 to July 9, so that this event becomes a trigger in the West and radically changes the agenda of the NATO summit.

[BasedBagel]

Just sanction the factories, gg putler

[Stizzel]

Just sanction the factories, gg putler

It appears that The time windows for an attrition war against Russia was missed. - Patricia Marins

"Months ago, I wrote about the three biggest Russian factories idling their production due to a shortage of electronics.

(https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...217898500.html)

Now, the situation is just the opposite. The three biggest Russian factories, Uralvagonzavod, Omsktransmash and Kurganmashzavod, are producing intensely, and that's not all. Uraltransmash and the Armored Repair Plants, consisting of eight units, are working at least 12 hours a day, but not yet in "war mode."
For example, Kurganmashzavod had around 1,700 workers but hired another 1,000 last year and another 1,200 recently.

During the last few months, the Russian industry has delivered dozens of helicopters and jets to African countries like Mali, Uganda, Togo, and Zimbabwe. This suggests that any shortage of electronics is in the past.

Recently, Uralvagonzavod set 100% of its production exclusively for tanks, while Omsktransmash isn't producing tanks anymore and has instead shifted its focus to the Tos-1 and the modernization of T80s and T62Ms, as well as some artillery, including the D30, 2s4, and 2s5.

Kurganmashzavod is working intensely on IFVs like the BMP3M, and at least five repair armored plants are refurbishing other IFVs and APCs. Uraltransmash is producing Akatsiya, Malka, and Msta S artillery and has already delivered two batches of Msta S this year.

The number of missiles launched against Kiev is another example of the kick in production for the Russian aerospace industry.

All evidence suggests that the Russian military complex can produce/refurbish many hundreds of tanks and probably thousands of IFVs, APCs, and artilleries annually.

We must consider 14 units producing (not including the units working in indirect production like the "techzavods").

The war is on the way where the US will hold the front, or the allies have to start negotiating with Russia. If Russia keeps up this rate, it will easily overcome the EU donations for Ukraine and seriously threaten the EU's capacity to keep supplying Ukraine. This situation just exposes an old criticism, where the allies didn't invest in facilities for Ukrainian companies to keep producing, refurbishing and repairing outside the country. Ukraine had an excellent military complex that suffered the war's consequences and didn't receive any restructuring program funds from the allies. From other hands, the Ukr decided to buy $800 millions in weapons never delivered. Another mistake.

*Adding as note, Ukraine just got something like 60% of what was announced for the offensive.

The Ukrainian army improved considerably since the begin of the offensive, but the scarcity of SHORADS and heavy armored vehicles are a serious issue for this kind of offensive, nor mentioning the lack of Air support.

I'd like to hear where are the perspectives for the Ukrainian offensive. With the current equipment I don't see any perspectives, except if US take a step forward and send many hundreds of Bradleys and Abrams. It would be able to balance the war again. The number of Storm shadows is insufficient to cause worries for RuAF.

������ Below are recent pictures and videos of the mentioned factories, while the deliveries you can search on Google."

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1...809604096.html

[phaginator]

Just sanction the factories, gg putler

3 factories producing 70's soviet tech poverty arms VS the combined west producing quantity and quality.

LMFAO at this vatnik third world cope

[dabbmw2002]

3 factories producing 70's soviet tech poverty arms VS the combined west producing quantity and quality.

LMFAO at this vatnik third world cope

So Ukraine is firing more artillery rounds at Russia?

[Putinist]

Kiev is fully aware that the provocation at ZaES, which involves an attack by Ukrainian drones on dry waste storage (SHSF ), will cause the worst shock in the world in recent decades, a large amount of Ukrainian agricultural products will become dangerous for export, and the land will be polluted for years.

In addition, ex-Vice President Pence and then CIA chief Burns tried to convey Washington's concern about their plans to carry out a terrorist attack at a nuclear power plant to Zelensky and Yermak. It’s not that the Americans are very worried about the Ukrainian ecology, they are afraid that this provocation will push Moscow to use tactical nuclear weapons against the Armed Forces of Ukraine, to which the United States will have to respond, but they have nothing to respond with.

The American guests directly warned Bankova that a provocation at the ZaNPP would not induce the West to increase aid, and would not force NATO into conflict with Russia. However, the Ze-team decided to ignore Washington's demands to abandon the attack.

To a large extent, because British intelligence, pushing them to take this step, promises all the support of the United Kingdom, and assures that the terrorist attack will ensure the success of the landing operation on the left bank of the Dnieper.

Ukrainian sources claim that a provocation at the ZaES is planned from July 5 to July 9, so that this event becomes a trigger in the West and radically changes the agenda of the NATO summit.

LMAO we will see what happens with this. Nazis gonna nazi.

[Stizzel]

3 factories producing 70's soviet tech poverty arms VS the combined west producing quantity and quality.

LMFAO at this vatnik third world cope

The russian people are ready to roll up their sleaves and participate in the war economy.

Meanwhile France is rioting and economists are writing about how the deindustrialization of Germany (which means all of Europe) has begun. Your cope won't save you

[Putinist]

This is the lamest fuking war. Srs. What the fuk is even the point? Jfl if either side blows up the nuclear plant. JFL

All because some Ukrainians decided to larp as nazis and wouldn't let other Ukrainians speak Russian. Bruh wtf?

[Smithers115]

Meanwhile France is rioting

in the defense of the croissant *******s, they riot every year over something retarded

2005: 2005 French riots, a series of riots that occurred in the suburbs of Paris and other French cities involving the burning of cars and public buildings at night.
2006: 2006 youth protests in France, riots resulting from opposition to a measure set to deregulate labour in France.
2007: 2007 Villiers-le-Bel riots, riots in the Val-d'Oise department that began following the deaths of two teenagers whose motorcycle collided with a police vehicle.
2007–09: 2007–09 university protests in France, protest movements resulting from several reform projects under Minister for Higher Education and Research Valérie Pécresse.
2009: 2009 French riots, a series of riots that occurred on Bastille Day (14 July) in the commune of Montreuil, an eastern suburb area of Paris.
2012: Notre Dame-des Landes Communities from nearby towns prevent an airport from being built on Notre Dame-des Landes forest and agricultural fields.
2013: 2013 Trappes riots, riots that broke out after police arrested a man who assaulted a police officer who tried to check the identity of his wife wearing a Muslim veil
2014: 2014 Sarcelles riots, a pro-Palestinian protest against the Israeli ground invasion of Gaza degenerated into an antisemitic riot in Sarcelles, France.
2016: 2016 French taxi driver strike, a strike by taxi drivers in several major cities against Uber, included many road blockades, fires, overturned vehicles, and the blockade of roads leading to the two major airports in Paris.[8]
2016: Nuit debout, protests that grew out of opposition to proposed labor reforms.
2017: Protests started following accusations a police officer anally raped a young black man with a baton.[9] Anti-police protests continued well into March 2017 when migrants were met with resistance from Paris residents.
2017: During May Day protests in Paris, a group of about 150[10] hooded demonstrators disrupted the march, throwing "Molotov cocktails, firebombs and other objects at the police near Place de la Bastille."[11] These "violent protesters, who did not carry any union or election paraphernalia, appeared to be from the same fringe groups that have targeted anti-government protests in the past."[11] Riot police responded with batons and tear gas.[11] Six police officers were injured, two of them seriously, by petrol bombs.[12]
2018: Ongoing Yellow vests movement (French: Gilets jaunes protests) over dissatisfaction with wealth disparity and ongoing increases to fuel taxes.
2022: 2022 Corsica unrest by Corsican nationalists in response to prison attack on Yvan Colonna
2022: 2022 Paris shooting, protests after the killing of three Kurds in Paris.
2023: 2023 French pension reform strikes due to the planned raise in retirement age from 62 to 64 years old.
2023: Nahel M. riots, protests after the killing of a teenager by police near Paris.

[BraneyGumble]

Just sanction the factories, gg putler

Well, if turbovatniks are admitting that Russia ran out of tanks and they need to fire up their imaginary factories then schit must be indeed dire.

[Stizzel]

in the defense of the croissant *******s, they riot every year over something retarded

2005: 2005 French riots, a series of riots that occurred in the suburbs of Paris and other French cities involving the burning of cars and public buildings at night.
2006: 2006 youth protests in France, riots resulting from opposition to a measure set to deregulate labour in France.
2007: 2007 Villiers-le-Bel riots, riots in the Val-d'Oise department that began following the deaths of two teenagers whose motorcycle collided with a police vehicle.
2007–09: 2007–09 university protests in France, protest movements resulting from several reform projects under Minister for Higher Education and Research Valérie Pécresse.
2009: 2009 French riots, a series of riots that occurred on Bastille Day (14 July) in the commune of Montreuil, an eastern suburb area of Paris.
2012: Notre Dame-des Landes Communities from nearby towns prevent an airport from being built on Notre Dame-des Landes forest and agricultural fields.
2013: 2013 Trappes riots, riots that broke out after police arrested a man who assaulted a police officer who tried to check the identity of his wife wearing a Muslim veil
2014: 2014 Sarcelles riots, a pro-Palestinian protest against the Israeli ground invasion of Gaza degenerated into an antisemitic riot in Sarcelles, France.
2016: 2016 French taxi driver strike, a strike by taxi drivers in several major cities against Uber, included many road blockades, fires, overturned vehicles, and the blockade of roads leading to the two major airports in Paris.[8]
2016: Nuit debout, protests that grew out of opposition to proposed labor reforms.
2017: Protests started following accusations a police officer anally raped a young black man with a baton.[9] Anti-police protests continued well into March 2017 when migrants were met with resistance from Paris residents.
2017: During May Day protests in Paris, a group of about 150[10] hooded demonstrators disrupted the march, throwing "Molotov cocktails, firebombs and other objects at the police near Place de la Bastille."[11] These "violent protesters, who did not carry any union or election paraphernalia, appeared to be from the same fringe groups that have targeted anti-government protests in the past."[11] Riot police responded with batons and tear gas.[11] Six police officers were injured, two of them seriously, by petrol bombs.[12]
2018: Ongoing Yellow vests movement (French: Gilets jaunes protests) over dissatisfaction with wealth disparity and ongoing increases to fuel taxes.
2022: 2022 Corsica unrest by Corsican nationalists in response to prison attack on Yvan Colonna
2022: 2022 Paris shooting, protests after the killing of three Kurds in Paris.
2023: 2023 French pension reform strikes due to the planned raise in retirement age from 62 to 64 years old.
2023: Nahel M. riots, protests after the killing of a teenager by police near Paris.

I think capital flight from deutschland is the more serious issue

[MattBam87]

'2nd most powerful military in the world'

Lol this is such a ****ing embarrassment for poverty Russia. Always been such a poverty sh*t country, filled with drunks that die before 60. So many people want to emigrate, they're embarrassed to be Russian.

[jackamo2887]

The russian people are ready to roll up their sleaves and participate in the war economy.

Meanwhile France is rioting and economists are writing about how the deindustrialization of Germany (which means all of Europe) has begun. Your cope won't save you

GDP of Nigeria.

[ghostfacedup]

what an abject failure of an "offensive" by Ukraine. Can we even call it an "offensive"? they've failed in every respect, and haven't even reached the defensive lines.

perhaps Z will finally try to negotiate after this failure.

[dabbmw2002]

what an abject failure of an "offensive" by Ukraine. Can we even call it an "offensive"? they've failed in every respect, and haven't even reached the defensive lines.

perhaps Z will finally try to negotiate after this failure.

you're doing it wrong.

Step 1- Ignore the three layered defense lines

Step 2- celebrate the taking of empty fields in front of said lines at an enormous cost

Step 3- Scream "400 days in the 48hr mission to take Kiev"

Step 4- Ask about what Russian objectives have been achieved

Step 5- repeat

[Stizzel]

Vatcucks a bit upset they only lost land these last couple of weeks.


2 more weeks and Kieve will surely fall

As long as the flanks of bakhmut remain secure we are able to enjoy our borscht in contentment

[suave2000]

you're doing it wrong.

Step 1- Ignore the three layered defense lines

Step 2- celebrate the taking of empty fields in front of said lines at an enormous cost

Step 3- Scream "400 days in the 48hr mission to take Kiev"

Step 4- Ask about what Russian objectives have been achieved

Step 5- repeat

Astronaut jogger COPE

[ghostfacedup]

Astronaut jogger COPE

says the vegan low-test talmudic circumsized pehdo soy rabbi.

[jackamo2887]

Remember when Russia tried to take Kyiv and failed and has been stuck in a losing 400 day long 48 hour military operation?

You remember.

[ghostfacedup]

Remember when Russia tried to take Kyiv and failed and has been stuck in a losing 400 day long 48 hour military operation?

You remember.

yes, losing, even though they already control most of what they want. do you know anything about the peace agreement when Russia had soldiers headed to Kiev? no, because you only listen to propaganda. dumb sheep.

[jackamo2887]

yes, losing, even though they already control most of what they want. do you know anything about the peace agreement when Russia had soldiers headed to Kiev? no, because you only listen to propaganda. dumb sheep.

Did they want Kyiv? Or Kherson?