To work on pushing movements, I'm doing BP, push-ups and OHP. I can't seem to find a comfortable way to perform the OHP.
Can dips be a substitute for that movement?
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Thread: Are Dips a subs for OHP?
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05-26-2023, 08:42 AM #1
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05-26-2023, 08:59 AM #2
It's not a good substitute if that's what you're asking, but it's your routine, so you can substitute anything for anything and you're not required to do any particular exercise.
If you were going to do 3 of those 4 exercises... your routine would be better with BP, dips and OHP (or any OHP variation). But you can do whatever you want.
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05-26-2023, 09:00 AM #3
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05-26-2023, 09:49 AM #4
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05-26-2023, 10:10 AM #5
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05-26-2023, 10:49 AM #6
You can also incorporate upright rows to your push routine. It's a pull exercise that works your shoulders.
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05-26-2023, 12:18 PM #7
IDK why an exercise needs to be "comfortable".
Do lower weight for a while, get used to it.
Or do Arnold press, that's pretty much my exclusive press currently.2022 -- Just maintaining and doing the van life
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05-26-2023, 12:22 PM #8
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05-26-2023, 01:18 PM #9
I think if OP is already doing a horizontal press, lateral raises would be better than front raises because bench press already hits the front delts pretty hard. Sometimes even my front delts give out first in bench press, depending on the variation. I typically do full body these days, and when I feel short on time I'll skip shoulder press and do an extra set or two of lateral raises.
2022 -- Just maintaining and doing the van life
April 2021.................16 week cut.................168 lbs
2020......................375 / 285 / 505..............186 lbs
Pre-COVID..............335 / 295 / 499..............185 lbs
July 1, 2019................9 week cut.................164 lbs
Late April 2019.........285 / 275 / 440.............178 lbs
Oct, 2018..............175x6 / 145x6 / 275x5......163 lbs
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05-26-2023, 06:08 PM #10
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05-26-2023, 08:38 PM #11
Maybe for you flat bench press and side lateral are enough for front delts, but they aren't generally a good substitute for overhead pressing. An incline bench press at a relatively steep angle would be a decent substitute for overhead press. And overhead press is highly overrated as a complete shoulder movement. Including side and rear delt movements will have much greater benefit than relying on OHP alone for shoulder development.
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