Woke Watch: How will 2023 "Little Mermaid" perform?

[SillieBazzillie]

Damn woke AF Fast X is failing bigly domestically. Meanwhile the ultra woke because they have a black mermaid movie will pass $200M domestic this weekend.

And the domestic box office is worth multiples of the foreign box office. Wouldn't expect moron cultist to understand that though.

haha moron cultist.

[x-trainer ben]

98% of the actors haven't been white except maybe in the 1930s-1960s when the country was nearly 90% white you dumb ****. And it still wouldn't be 98% unless you were lumping Jewish actors in with whites? Whoopi Goldberg did that and got blasted for being racist. You're not racist, are you?

70s - modern day has been filled with black actors. 80's was a HUGE decade for prominent black actors. You're just wrong.

If you cried about Hispanics being under represented, then I'd actually agree with you, but black people are supremely over represented in all facets of life.

let the data speak for itself.

1. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...y-werent-white

2. https://www.zippia.com/actor-jobs/demographics/

3. Some key findings from the 2018-19 TV season:

Network heads were 92% white and 68% male as late as September 2020
Women held 28.6% of show creator titles for digital programs, 28.1% for broadcast and 22.4% for cable
People of color were 10.3% of digital scripted show creators, 10.7% of broadcast scripted show creators and 14.5% of cable scripted show creators
People of color were just 24% of credited writers on broadcast, digital and cable
People of color directed only 22% of all episodes airing or streaming (and men directed twice as many of those as women of color)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/entert...dy/3720579001/

So it has improved over time but is that is a recent phenomenon and data began being looked at in the 2000's.

fact check= mostly false.

[JUSA]

Damn woke AF Fast X is failing bigly domestically. Meanwhile the ultra woke because they have a black mermaid movie will pass $200M domestic this weekend.

And the domestic box office is worth multiples of the foreign box office. Wouldn't expect moron cultist to understand that though.

haha moron cultist.

Fast X: 550million worldwide (I think it's been out 2 weeks)

Mermaid: 209million world wide (opened last week)

This clown calling people morons can't get information right, sourced nothing, jumped to the wrong conclusions and in a couple weeks when Mermaid is either confirmed for sure to either be underperforming or worse -- he'll ignore this and pretend he wasn't calling people morons for seeing the truth.

Tell you what, Sillie, you use all your alts but I only have one account so this means a lot more for me: If Mermaid is a box office success, I'll take a time out. If not, then you will. Care to put your money where your mouth is, or are you a fuking coward in addition to being a liar, racist and a massive idiot? I'll be gone for some time, you can just log in with all your other accounts, because we all know you're too small a man to take up a fair challenge.

[SaltyDog920]

let the data speak for itself.

1. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/...y-werent-white

2. https://www.zippia.com/actor-jobs/demographics/

3. Some key findings from the 2018-19 TV season:

Network heads were 92% white and 68% male as late as September 2020
Women held 28.6% of show creator titles for digital programs, 28.1% for broadcast and 22.4% for cable
People of color were 10.3% of digital scripted show creators, 10.7% of broadcast scripted show creators and 14.5% of cable scripted show creators
People of color were just 24% of credited writers on broadcast, digital and cable
People of color directed only 22% of all episodes airing or streaming (and men directed twice as many of those as women of color)

http://www.usatoday.com/story/entert...dy/3720579001/

So it has improved over time but is that is a recent phenomenon and data began being looked at in the 2000's.

fact check= mostly false.

You fact checked something I didn't make a claim on? Nice!

While you're at it, fact check the amount of white NBA players and let me know if that's representative of America as a whole.

Fact check the near 40% of head coaches being black and let me know if that's representative of America as a whole.


You can cherry pick any career position in the USA and find competing results. We are specifically talking about actors/actresses in this thread. Jesus you're dense.

[JUSA]

Network heads were 92% white and 68% male as late as September 2020

This is one of the (many) reasons I absolutely loath this woke crap -- the hypocrisy. These fuking guys, 92% white (and probably all Jewish at that) are going to sit there at the top and preach down to us, with this fake 'diversity' often pushed in divisive and obnoxious ways (such as Mermaid) -- but they don't believe a word of it, yet here in this thread we see all the mindless robots like Sillie getting their programming handed down to them, and they'll fight to the death for this fake virtue signaling woke garbage.

It's not real. It's not virtue. Wincel, you're here and you've got a good head on your shoulders and I believe a good heart, you need to stop peddling lies like this and see this for the crap it is. It's not about righting a historical wrong, it's about a bunch of people who are the problem acting like it's the rest of us and making us fight with each other in the process.

[Dave22reborn]

Fast X: 550million worldwide (I think it's been out 2 weeks)

Mermaid: 209million world wide (opened last week)

This clown calling people morons can't get information right, sourced nothing, jumped to the wrong conclusions and in a couple weeks when Mermaid is either confirmed for sure to either be underperforming or worse -- he'll ignore this and pretend he wasn't calling people morons for seeing the truth.

Tell you what, Sillie, you use all your alts but I only have one account so this means a lot more for me: If Mermaid is a box office success, I'll take a time out. If not, then you will. Care to put your money where your mouth is, or are you a fuking coward in addition to being a liar, racist and a massive idiot? I'll be gone for some time, you can just log in with all your other accounts, because we all know you're too small a man to take up a fair challenge.

Thing is, if Little Mermiad is failing in the international box office, it most likely will cost Disney money. I don't understand why he doesn't understand this.

As for Fast X, yeah, it's doing extremely well in the international box office, and didn't do well in the domestic box office.

And Spiderman came out yesterday, probably taking out Little Mermaid, so it's done.

[JUSA]

And Spiderman came out yesterday, probably taking out Little Mermaid, so it's done.

I have a feeling word of mouth is also doing LM no favors, either.

[Dave22reborn]

I have a feeling word of mouth is also doing LM no favors, either.

Also, why would you take a 5 year old to see a movie that's 2 hrs and 15 minutes??? Heard there was stories written where after 90 minutes, the kids start to squirm in their seats, and fidget.

[monty097]

Weird you cultist never once cried when 98% of the actors were white, regardless of the source material.

So weird you're screeching like the bishes you are now...so weird...it's almost like you're all racist dbags or something...

I'll take racist dbags for $500 Alex.

lmfao at cultist...SMH

Name one single movie where the original movie was a black character and they replaced them with a white character in the remake lol.

This would never happen in a million years, the woke army would lose their chit.

inb4 Ryan Gosling plays Shaft in a reboot so we can watch idiots like you freak out.

[SillieBazzillie]

Fast X: 550million worldwide (I think it's been out 2 weeks)

Mermaid: 209million world wide (opened last week)

This clown calling people morons can't get information right, sourced nothing, jumped to the wrong conclusions and in a couple weeks when Mermaid is either confirmed for sure to either be underperforming or worse -- he'll ignore this and pretend he wasn't calling people morons for seeing the truth.

Tell you what, Sillie, you use all your alts but I only have one account so this means a lot more for me: If Mermaid is a box office success, I'll take a time out. If not, then you will. Care to put your money where your mouth is, or are you a fuking coward in addition to being a liar, racist and a massive idiot? I'll be gone for some time, you can just log in with all your other accounts, because we all know you're too small a man to take up a fair challenge.

Wait, you think the studios take of the domestic and foreign box offices is the same?

This is level of stupidity I'm dealing with?

A studio would much much much rather have $250M domestic than $500M foreign.

[Dave22reborn]

Wait, you think the studios take of the domestic and foreign box offices is the same?

This is level of stupidity I'm dealing with?

A studio would much much much rather have $250M domestic than $500M foreign.

Christ......you really need to stop.......how can someone be 55 years old, and be this stupid???

[SillieBazzillie]

Christ......you really need to stop.......how can someone be 55 years old, and be this stupid???

I don't usually respond to you because you're a worthless, racist, lazy, hateful moron. But I'll make an exception to dunk on your tiny little frame.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-hol...ual-1409241925

For those poorscells who can't afford the WSJ, foreign box office, particularly China, bring a fraction back to the studios versus the domestic box office.

Stop talking about chit you morons don't have the capacity to understand...SMH

[Dave22reborn]

I don't usually respond to you because you're a worthless, racist, lazy, hateful moron. But I'll make an exception to dunk on your tiny little frame.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/for-hol...ual-1409241925

For those poorscells who can't afford the WSJ, foreign box office, particularly China, bring a fraction back to the studios versus the domestic box office.

Stop talking about chit you morons don't have the capacity to understand...SMH

Let me make it easy, in a month from now, if the entire gross, domestic, and international box office, for this movie is only 500 million dollars, that will equal a HUGE loss for Disney.

You of course, will deny it, no matter how many articles say otherwise......

[Dave22reborn]

I don't understand the comparison. Isn't fastX all black people too? So the fact that it's doing well internationally would mean international people don't really hate black people. They just hate stupid race swapping BS.

How is Fast X woke??? It's mindless entertainment, but it isn't woke.

[JUSA]

Wait, you think the studios take of the domestic and foreign box offices is the same?

This is level of stupidity I'm dealing with?

A studio would much much much rather have $250M domestic than $500M foreign.

Stupid is what you are doing, which is this broad brush you paint with or just making up nonsense.

To everyone else: Studios get a greater percentage from Domestic BO vs Foreign. That's it. What dumbfuk left out: that percentage of Domestic BO is shared more with theaters over time -- which is what makes that opening weekend so crucial. If (or should I say when) Little Mermaid is spider-bit this weekend and drops 50% (or more), that's double bad because not only is it half but now they are splitting a decent chunk of the ticket sales with AMC and other theaters so it wouldn't just be a 1/2 drop in revenue, it's worse than that.

> A studio would much much much rather have $250M domestic than $500M foreign.

Here, this idiot who routinely calls others moron is comparing Apples to Oranges and thinks he's smart in doing so.

He's not.

Perhaps, he's even more stupid than I thought, because if you just took his analysis at face value -- 500 million foreign rakes in a more than 250 million domestic (assuming you discount with both the opposing foreign/domestic). Movies make both, you know -- and while the domestic market is the one with the more generous percentages shared with studios - it's also not magical or a situation where they release overseas and get 1/2% for their troubles, either.

At the end of the day, Mermaid doing better domestically than foreign is a feather in it's cap and an advantage over Fast X -- but it's going to come down to numbers. Mermaid will need to maintain this momentum, keep nailing it here in the US and have a relatively small drop off to compensate for it's weak Domestic sales.

Edit: I'm adding this in, because I forgot about it but it's very important, but as much as the percentages, it comes down to time. They get the money quicker w/ domestic, vs a holding period.

I will also leave it at this: This fuking coward, who types and pretends he's so smart, we will note he wants nothing of the challenge I laid on him. Ignore his words, he is a liar - look at his actions. They say he's an unconfident, angry and small little man.

[Dave22reborn]

Stupid is what you are doing, which is this broad brush you paint with or just making up nonsense.

To everyone else: Studios get a greater percentage from Domestic BO vs Foreign. That's it. What dumbfuk left out: that percentage of Domestic BO is shared more with theaters over time -- which is what makes that opening weekend so crucial. If (or should I say when) Little Mermaid is spider-bit this weekend and drops 50% (or more), that's double bad because not only is it half but now they are splitting a decent chunk of the ticket sales with AMC and other theaters so it wouldn't just be a 1/2 drop in revenue, it's worse than that.

> A studio would much much much rather have $250M domestic than $500M foreign.

Here, this idiot who routinely calls others moron is comparing Apples to Oranges and thinks he's smart in doing so.

He's not.

Perhaps, he's even more stupid than I thought, because if you just took his analysis at face value -- 500 million foreign rakes in a more than 250 million domestic (assuming you discount with both the opposing foreign/domestic). Movies make both, you know -- and while the domestic market is the one with the more generous percentages shared with studios - it's also not magical or a situation where they release overseas and get 1/2% for their troubles, either.

At the end of the day, Mermaid doing better domestically than foreign is a feather in it's cap and an advantage over Fast X -- but it's going to come down to numbers. Mermaid will need to maintain this momentum, keep nailing it here in the US and have a relatively small drop off to compensate for it's weak Domestic sales.

I will also leave it at this: This fuking coward, who types and pretends he's so smart, we will note he wants nothing of the challenge I laid on him. Ignore his words, he is a liar - look at his actions. They say he's an unconfident, angry and small little man.

He reminds me of the Rock trying to convince everyone that Black Adam wasn't a flop.......

[monty097]

Wait, you think the studios take of the domestic and foreign box offices is the same?

This is level of stupidity I'm dealing with?

A studio would much much much rather have $250M domestic than $500M foreign.

Are you actually a fuking retard? lol.

Movies always make more from the international market than they do from the domestic market.

Endgame made $858M domestically and $1.9B internationally.

You think they would rather not have that $1.9B? lmao.

[Cleveland33]

Are you actually a fuking retard? lol.

Movies always make more from the international market than they do from the domestic market.

Endgame made $858M domestically and $1.9B internationally.

You think they would rather not have that $1.9B? lmao.

I thought he was a finance bro

[BeachPro11]

Christ......you really need to stop.......how can someone be 55 years old, and be this stupid???

I don't understand the comparison. Isn't fastX all black people too? So the fact that it's doing well internationally would mean international people don't really hate black people. They just hate stupid race swapping BS.

Stupid is what you are doing, which is this broad brush you paint with or just making up nonsense.

To everyone else: Studios get a greater percentage from Domestic BO vs Foreign. That's it. What dumbfuk left out: that percentage of Domestic BO is shared more with theaters over time -- which is what makes that opening weekend so crucial. If (or should I say when) Little Mermaid is spider-bit this weekend and drops 50% (or more), that's double bad because not only is it half but now they are splitting a decent chunk of the ticket sales with AMC and other theaters so it wouldn't just be a 1/2 drop in revenue, it's worse than that.

> A studio would much much much rather have $250M domestic than $500M foreign.

Here, this idiot who routinely calls others moron is comparing Apples to Oranges and thinks he's smart in doing so.

He's not.

Perhaps, he's even more stupid than I thought, because if you just took his analysis at face value -- 500 million foreign rakes in a more than 250 million domestic (assuming you discount with both the opposing foreign/domestic). Movies make both, you know -- and while the domestic market is the one with the more generous percentages shared with studios - it's also not magical or a situation where they release overseas and get 1/2% for their troubles, either.

At the end of the day, Mermaid doing better domestically than foreign is a feather in it's cap and an advantage over Fast X -- but it's going to come down to numbers. Mermaid will need to maintain this momentum, keep nailing it here in the US and have a relatively small drop off to compensate for it's weak Domestic sales.

Edit: I'm adding this in, because I forgot about it but it's very important, but as much as the percentages, it comes down to time. They get the money quicker w/ domestic, vs a holding period.

I will also leave it at this: This fuking coward, who types and pretends he's so smart, we will note he wants nothing of the challenge I laid on him. Ignore his words, he is a liar - look at his actions. They say he's an unconfident, angry and small little man.

Are you actually a fuking retard? lol.

Movies always make more from the international market than they do from the domestic market.

Endgame made $858M domestically and $1.9B internationally.

You think they would rather not have that $1.9B? lmao.

I thought he was a finance bro

Anyone who would do this is not all there mentally.....

[Dave22reborn]

Wincel, why don't you just ask to be unbanned???

[Dave22reborn]

I thought he was a finance bro

Hurr Durr, Disney is doing fine, sure they fired 3% of their workforce, and will probably fire thousands more, sure their stock went from 200 a share, to 90 a share, sure their movies are "allegedly" flopping, they're losing 4 million subscribers with their streaming, their shows on Disney + are being canceled, but you "Cultists" are delusional if you think they're hurting......

[fitnessislife]

Hurr Durr, Disney is doing fine, sure they fired 3% of their workforce, and will probably fire thousands more, sure their stock went from 200 a share, to 90 a share, sure their movies are "allegedly" flopping, they're losing 4 million subscribers with their streaming, their shows on Disney + are being canceled, but you "Cultists" are delusional if you think they're hurting......

Wasn't there a study recently conducted that showed what we all thought, that the majority of Disney employees aren't in favor of their extreme woke garbage that's alienated their traditional fan base?

[Dave22reborn]

Wasn't there a study recently conducted that showed what we all thought, that the majority of Disney employees aren't in favor of their extreme woke garbage that's alienated their traditional fan base?

Probably, but this is the day and age, where if you speak up, your life is ruined.

[JUSA]

https://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice/sta...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

Projected drop-off of 56%

Meanwhile GotG, which has been out for a month, dropped 46% even w/ direct super-hero competition.

[Dave22reborn]

https://twitter.com/ERCboxoffice/sta...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

Projected drop-off of 56%

Meanwhile GotG, which has been out for a month, dropped 46% even w/ direct super-hero competition.

Reading numerous articles, despite what delusional Sillie believes, all predictions are saying that it'll be a loss for Disney, around the 50-100 million range. It might, "might" break even.

Fast X cost around 350 million to make, which is insane, and will probably be a loss as well.

But for the last one, they're bring back the Rock, and somehow Gal Gadot........I guess it's like Marvel, where nobody really dies.

[Dave22reborn]

How much to make mermaid movie?

200mil in two weeks seems like a success to me.

Not how it works, usually the marketing is double the cost, sometimes even more, and the theaters take a cut of 50%.

So let's say Little Mermaid cost 200 million, and another 200 million in marketing. It needs to make 800 million just to break even.

[Kev1972]

Not how it works, usually the marketing is double the cost, sometimes even more, and the theaters take a cut of 50%.

So let's say Little Mermaid cost 200 million, and another 200 million in marketing. It needs to make 800 million just to break even.

And that's not counting stuff like the toy line or other gimmicks they attach to the film also failing.

[Dave22reborn]

And that's not counting stuff like the toy line or other gimmicks they attach to the film also failing.

Yep, I'm sure that purple haired lesbian from Last Jedi was a huge seller.......

[JUSA]

It's not a 50-50 split, the first weekend is almost entirely the studio, every week after more and more to the theaters.

200m right now is not as great as it seems, an almost 60% drop off from week 1 is bad and every week from here out is another expected 30-50% drop from that - with studios getting more and more of ticket sales. Meanwhile, it was what? 250 million to produce and likely another 250 in marketing? That is what you put behind a movie you expect to rake in 1Billion at the box office -- as every other Live Action Disney remake has recently.

They will get some play out of Disney+ and elsewhere, but bluray sales are almost non-existent these days and I don't see Little Mermaid toys flying off the shelves.

Week two, this looks like a break even at best and more and more like they are going to lose money - probably not an outright bomb, but even that is not off the table right now.

Btw, Dave- why quote wincel and his porn? Some of us don't like that chit, maybe have kids around or are at work. Why broadcast his nonsense by quoting him?

[adimare]

Not how it works, usually the marketing is double the cost, sometimes even more, and the theaters take a cut of 50%.

So let's say Little Mermaid cost 200 million, and another 200 million in marketing. It needs to make 800 million just to break even.

You're absolutely insane if you think movies need to make QUADRUPLE their budget in order to just break even.

The rule of thumb is they need to double their budget in order to break even, and that takes into account the extra spend in marketing + the shared profits with distribution, theaters, etc.

As a counter example to your ridiculous claim, take Pacific Rim. It cost $200 million and grossed $411 million. Do you really think they needed to make $800 million just to break even? That would mean that it was a net loss of $389 million. Do you really think they would have made a sequel if that were true?