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    Originally Posted by XterraRob View Post
    Live and let live got us to where we are today, it's a form of apathy.
    Or self confidence. I have no gay inclination and no transgender inclinations. My kids knew what those things were by the time they were 8 and while they may not have completely understood it back then, hearing about it didn't hurt them. They don't seem to have any inclination in any of the LGBTQ directions and they're definitely not bothered by people who do.

    To me, LGBTQ stuff is kind of like oysters. I think they're gross, but if you want to eat them, it might make me cringe a little, but otherwise it won't really bother me. That's why I think people who are adamantly anti gay, or anti-transgender, or anti any of those LGBTQ things must be turned on by it or attracted to it in some way. Otherwise it shouldn't be any more significant than watching other people eating oysters if you find them disgusting.
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    My problem is there seems to be a rise, although I could be mistaken, of parents that are trying to be hyper-sensitive to their kids' needs/emotions, and misconstrue a 5yo boy putting on mom's makeup or heels as wanting to be female and the mom asks him leading questions and the boy will affirm the mother's suspicions because he's simply getting more attention from the mother than before and it is nothing more than that.

    This then can go down the path of the kid growing up at an impressionable age thinking perhaps he's the wrong gender when it's most very likely just a kid fukking around with mom's shiit. I have a feeling in 10 years we're going to hear many stories about 20-somethings that regret various stages of transitions they did.
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    That's why I think people who are adamantly anti gay, or anti-transgender, or anti any of those LGBTQ things must be turned on by it or attracted to it in some way. .
    So if you're adamantly anti ****phile you're probably a ****phile? Great logic

    That's the sort of speech a gay or trans person would make to justify their existence
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    My problem is there seems to be a rise, although I could be mistaken, of parents that are trying to be hyper-sensitive to their kids' needs/emotions, and misconstrue a 5yo boy putting on mom's makeup or heels as wanting to be female and the mom asks him leading questions and the boy will affirm the mother's suspicions because he's simply getting more attention from the mother than before and it is nothing more than that.

    This then can go down the path of the kid growing up at an impressionable age thinking perhaps he's the wrong gender when it's most very likely just a kid fukking around with mom's shiit. I have a feeling in 10 years we're going to hear many stories about 20-somethings that regret various stages of transitions they did.
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    Originally Posted by JustTheDad View Post
    Or self confidence. I have no gay inclination and no transgender inclinations. My kids knew what those things were by the time they were 8 and while they may not have completely understood it back then, hearing about it didn't hurt them. They don't seem to have any inclination in any of the LGBTQ directions and they're definitely not bothered by people who do.

    To me, LGBTQ stuff is kind of like oysters. I think they're gross, but if you want to eat them, it might make me cringe a little, but otherwise it won't really bother me. That's why I think people who are adamantly anti gay, or anti-transgender, or anti any of those LGBTQ things must be turned on by it or attracted to it in some way. Otherwise it shouldn't be any more significant than watching other people eating oysters if you find them disgusting.
    Does this mean you actually love oysters deep down?
    Just so we're clear. You think the fact that people not only notice, but object to obvious child grooming...makes the objector a secret p e d o?
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    Originally Posted by freeheeler View Post
    So if you're adamantly anti ****phile you're probably a ****phile? Great logic

    That's the sort of speech a gay or trans person would make to justify their existence
    Extremely weak when you have to attack with a strawman argument. Nobody has defended ****philia. You're basically implying the rainbow crowd hurt others the same way ****philes hurt kids.

    Unlike ****philes, they're no more dangerous or harmful to others than straight people, but for some reason, you're emotionally affected by them. Otherwise you'd have no reason to make statements implying they have to "justify their existence" or to throw up a strawman.

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    Does this mean you actually love oysters deep down?
    Just so we're clear. You think the fact that people not only notice, but object to obvious child grooming...makes the objector a secret p e d o?
    Another strawman. Nobody has said anything defending grooming children.
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    they just made some pandering press release stmts but didnt do anything actually lol

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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    they just made some pandering press release stmts but didnt do anything actually lol

    https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/sta...57847452356611



    The best part of the Target thing is that apparently even the LGBTQ crowd doesn't like Target's displays. I saw an article saying Target started doing those after they pissed off LGBTQ groups by making a campaign contribution to some homophobic politician.
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    Originally Posted by JustTheDad View Post
    Extremely weak when you have to attack with a strawman argument. Nobody has defended ****philia. You're basically implying the rainbow crowd hurt others the same way ****philes hurt kids.

    Unlike ****philes, they're no more dangerous or harmful to others than straight people, but for some reason, you're emotionally affected by them. Otherwise you'd have no reason to make statements implying they have to "justify their existence" or to throw up a strawman.

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    Another strawman. Nobody has said anything defending grooming children.

    Dude, you act like Drag Queen story hour for kids isn't happening. Drag Queen story time exists for one reason...grooming opportunities.
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    Originally Posted by Procta View Post
    they just made some pandering press release stmts but didnt do anything actually lol

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    So basically, they are doubling down. Cool, it makes the decision to shop there for people much easier to make now...
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    Originally Posted by Fishman15 View Post
    Dude, you act like Drag Queen story hour for kids isn't happening. Drag Queen story time exists for one reason...grooming opportunities.
    You said the same thing about gay adoption and now gay adoption is legal in all 50 states + DC.
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    Originally Posted by Fishman15 View Post
    Dude, you act like Drag Queen story hour for kids isn't happening. Drag Queen story time exists for one reason...grooming opportunities.
    I had heard about that but googled it to see why you might think it was grooming. It's weird, but what do you think the drag queens are grooming kids for? Fake boobs and bad makeup doesn't seem contagious. Homosexuality isn't contagious. If a kid's not predisposed to being gay, then beyond them finding the costume aspect of it funny, I can't see it affecting them in any significant way.

    Seems like the bottom line is, if you don't like the stories or don't want your kid to hear about LGBTQ stuff from an LGBTQ person, don't let your kids attend. Or don't support the stores hosting it. Or simply talk to your kids which you should be doing anyway.
    You have the right to do any of those things just like the drag queens have the right to dress up and read stories when the store allows them to.
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    How the fuk did we go from "we should tolerate gay people and just let them live their lives in peace" to "we should pretend little boys are girls and make special gay tranny underwear for them" in just a decade?
    Gay marriage was a slippery slope. How do people STILL not see this?
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    My problem is there seems to be a rise, although I could be mistaken, of parents that are trying to be hyper-sensitive to their kids' needs/emotions, and misconstrue a 5yo boy putting on mom's makeup or heels as wanting to be female and the mom asks him leading questions and the boy will affirm the mother's suspicions because he's simply getting more attention from the mother than before and it is nothing more than that.

    This then can go down the path of the kid growing up at an impressionable age thinking perhaps he's the wrong gender when it's most very likely just a kid fukking around with mom's shiit. I have a feeling in 10 years we're going to hear many stories about 20-somethings that regret various stages of transitions they did.
    Just going to add in on saying very well stated.

    It seems like a staggeringly large number of parents lack that basic understanding of children, and yet they somehow got to thinking that they're all qualified children psychologists. Maybe it was because they heard "those were the signs" from a few other whack job parents, which should have been the red flag right there, or they're desperately trying to glom onto the ultra-supportive parent trend to satisfy their own subconscious, selfish needs. Whatever the case, they're lining their kids up for many long years of unhealthy, unnatural development and enough psychological issues to share across an asylum.

    To use your example, common sense alone says a young child with next to no life experience just rummaged through his mother's makeup. What they manage to see is actually attributing a hyper-rare biological disorder to so many children (1) all around the same generations, (2) rising in a first world country where birth defects are statistically more rare, (3) not seen in parts of the world with higher rates of birth disorders, and (4) have to be an extremely individual specific due to the rarity and complexity of such an anomaly, and then acting outside of all rationality or common sense to pursue life-altering treatments and possibly surgeries. That bears far more resemblance to Munchausen by Proxy than "modern sensitive/caring parenting," or whatever they tell themselves.

    The more you think about it, you have to wonder how lacking the parents are for any empathy to consider just how damaged they would be if their own parents raised them to be the wrong gender because their toddler self made the grave mistake of finding mommy's purse.

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    How the fuk did we go from "we should tolerate gay people and just let them live their lives in peace" to "we should pretend little boys are girls and make special gay tranny underwear for them" in just a decade?
    "LGBTQ+" became a Trojan horse for people who have nothing to do with the first three letters to tag along in order to artificially boost their own "representation" numbers, play the same victim card, and conveniently create the current situation where critics of the latter letters are being painted as enemies of the former. Don't like groomers? Now you're criticizing gay people (somehow) because it's all the same initialism.

    If you notice, things like this Target push avoid spelling out the "T," sticking to the lump "LGBTQLMNOP." That Target CEO exemplifies this perfectly because he's trying to create the perception that gender bender swimwear somehow means he's standing for gay people minding their own business and not facilitating groomers.
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    Just going to add in on saying very well stated.

    It seems like a staggeringly large number of parents lack that basic understanding of children, and yet they somehow got to thinking that they're all qualified children psychologists. Maybe it was because they heard "those were the signs" from a few other whack job parents, which should have been the red flag right there, or they're desperately trying to glom onto the ultra-supportive parent trend to satisfy their own subconscious, selfish needs. Whatever the case, they're lining their kids up for many long years of unhealthy, unnatural development and enough psychological issues to share across an asylum.

    To use your example, common sense alone says a young child with next to no life experience just rummaged through his mother's makeup. What they manage to see is actually attributing a hyper-rare biological disorder to so many children (1) all around the same generations, (2) rising in a first world country where birth defects are statistically more rare, (3) not seen in parts of the world with higher rates of birth disorders, and (4) have to be an extremely individual specific due to the rarity and complexity of such an anomaly, and then acting outside of all rationality or common sense to pursue life-altering treatments and possibly surgeries. That bears far more resemblance to Munchausen by Proxy than "modern sensitive/caring parenting," or whatever they tell themselves.

    The more you think about it, you have to wonder how lacking the parents are for any empathy to consider just how damaged they would be if their own parents raised them to be the wrong gender because their toddler self made the grave mistake of finding mommy's purse.

    "LGBTQ+" became a Trojan horse for people who have nothing to do with the first three letters to tag along in order to artificially boost their own "representation" numbers, play the same victim card, and conveniently create the current situation where critics of the latter letters are being painted as enemies of the former. Don't like groomers? Now you're criticizing gay people (somehow) because it's all the same initialism.

    If you notice, things like this Target push avoid spelling out the "T," sticking to the lump "LGBTQLMNOP." That Target CEO exemplifies this perfectly because he's trying to create the perception that gender bender swimwear somehow means he's standing for gay people minding their own business and not facilitating groomers.
    That's also an excellent post with lots of valid points. The only thing I'll disagree with is the groomer association you seem to imply. I don't think any of those alphabet soup groups should be equated with "groomers". It's like when some azzhat goes off the deep end with an ergonomic rifle and a PMAG. Every time it happens a majority of democrats start campaigning to make my firearms or magazines illegal. They want to associate gun owners with psychos. We'd all agree that's fear mongering and that it's stupid, but it seems like you guys are trying argue it's OK to do the exact same things to a bunch of mostly harmless LGBTQ people because there might be a groomer hidden somewhere in their group.
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    Gay marriage was a slippery slope. How do people STILL not see this?
    And it was rejected by the voters at every step of the way, even in California, before it was forced on the US as a law. What exactly do you want to be done about it?
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    And it was rejected by the voters at every step of the way, even in California, before it was forced on the US as a law. What exactly do you want to be done about it?
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    I thought the same haha.

    Even the way the post is written is completely opposite of how he normally writes.

    Very strange post.
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    And you wonder why I think you're a complete fukking retarded conspiracy theorist, eh, son?
    There ya go.

    That is more like your normal everyday posts that you have written 99.9999999999999999999999999% of the time on this website.

    No one believes that previous post because it was completely unlike anything you have ever written.

    THAT is how little respect you have around here.

    Congrats! You are seen as a troll. A liar. AND a complete moron.
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    We're not supposed to negotiate with terrorists': Twilight star Rachelle Lefevre accuses Target of 'trying to erase' LGBTQ people and claims she can't take her non-binary seven-year-old to the store anymore after it pulled Pride merchandise
    Rachelle Lefevre, 44, said she can no longer bring her non-binary seven-year-old to Target after the chain moved the Pride collection to the back of the store
    She accused the brand of 'performative allyship' and said they were 'being successful in trying to erase' the LGBT community
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