In 2024, what is Trump supposed to do / say about election fraud myth?

[DanteEdmond]

He pushed the myth that the 2020 election was stolen, claiming all sorts of fraud. Fox News settled a lawsuit for 700-800 million with Dominion. Rudy and Sidney Powell have their cases going. The stolen election claims naturally lead back to Jan 06th.

Now that he is likely to face Biden again. What is Trump supposed to say or do in regards to his false stolen-election claims?

1). If he continues to claim the election was stolen, he looks bad, as he's pushing a lie. The midterms also showed that voters don't want this narrative (see Kari Lake)

2). If he renounces his claim that the election was stolen and admits he lost, he looks bad. He would either have to admit that he lied or that he was stupid enough to get duped by Rudy and others into believing that the election was stolen

[John L]

Imagine all the interviews and debates with 2024 nominee Blumpf. Imagine how easy it's going to be to goad that retard into ranting and raving about the stolen election in every single one. Imagine how badly he's going to be destroyed.

[NYPat]

Trump will never admit he lied or was wrong. So he'll continue feeding the cultists the bullchit and they'll continue to eat it up while 65% of the country votes anyone but Trump.

[DeshaunWatson]

He needs to go on about ballot harvesting. Until GOP matches that game, they’ll never win again.

[GuineaDago585]

Easy solution/compromise - Trump should not admit he was wrong, but should shift any an all focus on 2020 to saying that the Democrats “cheated” by changing the rules (mail in ballots, drop boxes, early voting 6 weeks before Election Day, etc.) which is 100% factual, but really he should avoid the subject whenever possible. I know in the debates it will come up however.

[Noliberals4]

"Hey guys, donate another $250 million to make sure there is no election fraud. This time I SWEAR I will spend the money on actually fighting election fraud. I am not corrupt at all. Also, as a bonus, I will pardon some of the 1-6 terrorists instead of corrupt Democrats and gangster rappers. Anyway, where's my golf club? Don't forget to donate!"

[Noliberals4]

Easy solution/compromise - Trump should not admit he was wrong, but should shift any an all focus on 2020 to saying that the Democrats “cheated” by changing the rules (mail in ballots, drop boxes, early voting 6 weeks before Election Day, etc.) which is 100% factual, but really he should avoid the subject whenever possible. I know in the debates it will come up however.

Trump lost because he ran a chit campaign, not because of mail in ballots.

[~Hades~]

the lawsuit doesnt mean there was no fraud. it means the fraud did not happen the way they were accused of fraud. it could also mean that they settled because they dint want more dirty laundry coming out abut how news networks lie to viewers


you really think sleepy joe biden got more votes than obama? lmao

[DanteEdmond]

the lawsuit doesnt mean there was no fraud. it means the fraud did not happen the way they were accused of fraud. it could also mean that they settled because they dint want more dirty laundry coming out abut how news networks lie to viewers


you really think sleepy joe biden got more votes than obama? lmao

Bill Barr had the DOJ and FBI investigate all allegations of fraud right after the election. They found some instances of fraud took place (just as there is fraud in every election), but there was no evidence of mass fraud that would've changed the outcome.

Biden and Trump got more votes than Obama 2008 because Covid pumped up a record-turnout

[John L]

Bill Barr had the DOJ and FBI investigate all allegations of fraud right after the election. They found some instances of fraud took place (just as there is fraud in every election), but there was no evidence of mass fraud that would've changed the outcome.

Biden and Trump got more votes than Obama 2008 because Covid pumped up a record-turnout

This. The country was (is) extremely polarized and that combined with mail in ballots resulted in record turnout.

Brandon didn't matter in the slightest. The election was between people pumped up for Blumpf, and people who hated his guts. Turns out there's more people who hate him.

[~Hades~]

Bill Barr had the DOJ and FBI investigate all allegations of fraud right after the election. They found some instances of fraud took place (just as there is fraud in every election), but there was no evidence of mass fraud that would've changed the outcome.

Biden and Trump got more votes than Obama 2008 because Covid pumped up a record-turnout

This. The country was (is) extremely polarized and that combined with mail in ballots resulted in record turnout.

Brandon didn't matter in the slightest. The election was between people pumped up for Blumpf, and people who hated his guts. Turns out there's more people who hate him.

Are you guys actually this potato?

[Tears]

He pushed the myth that the 2020 election was stolen, claiming all sorts of fraud. Fox News settled a lawsuit for 700-800 million with Dominion. Rudy and Sidney Powell have their cases going. The stolen election claims naturally lead back to Jan 06th.

Now that he is likely to face Biden again. What is Trump supposed to say or do in regards to his false stolen-election claims?

1). If he continues to claim the election was stolen, he looks bad, as he's pushing a lie. The midterms also showed that voters don't want this narrative (see Kari Lake)

2). If he renounces his claim that the election was stolen and admits he lost, he looks bad. He would either have to admit that he lied or that he was stupid enough to get duped by Rudy and others into believing that the election was stolen

Imagine all the interviews and debates with 2024 nominee Blumpf. Imagine how easy it's going to be to goad that retard into ranting and raving about the stolen election in every single one. Imagine how badly he's going to be destroyed.

Trump will never admit he lied or was wrong. So he'll continue feeding the cultists the bullchit and they'll continue to eat it up while 65% of the country votes anyone but Trump.

"Hey guys, donate another $250 million to make sure there is no election fraud. This time I SWEAR I will spend the money on actually fighting election fraud. I am not corrupt at all. Also, as a bonus, I will pardon some of the 1-6 terrorists instead of corrupt Democrats and gangster rappers. Anyway, where's my golf club? Don't forget to donate!"

Textbook.

[AlwaysFocus]

"Myth"

[AlwaysFocus]

God damn, Trump is the most popular person on the planet EVER. Ive never seen someone universally worshiped by people that hate him.

They really should do some human psyche evaluations there is a lot to learn here about human behavior.

[Noliberals4]

Bill Barr had the DOJ and FBI investigate all allegations of fraud right after the election. They found some instances of fraud took place (just as there is fraud in every election), but there was no evidence of mass fraud that would've changed the outcome.

Biden and Trump got more votes than Obama 2008 because Covid pumped up a record-turnout

Record turnout was going to happen anyway. The 2018 midterms had literal Presidential year level turnout (Dems got 61 million votes - only 2 million less than Trump! In a midterm!). Anyone with half a brain knew the Democrat nominee was going to get 80 million+ votes. In 2019 on this site I said that.

People really overrate the effect mail in ballots had on the election. The 2020 election played out exactly like the 2016 election except this time Trump didn't have Gary Johnson (and Jill Stein) to save him.

Winning states with 47% of the vote is OK in a year of heavy third party voting (2016), but not in a normal election year. Trump has a hard ceiling of 47-48% and that's not enough to win without high third party voting.

[TaeBoNinja]

Imagine all the interviews and debates with 2024 nominee Blumpf. Imagine how easy it's going to be to goad that retard into ranting and raving about the stolen election in every single one. Imagine how badly he's going to be destroyed.

You literally have gone on and on about elections being pointless because the Dems will just steal it. And here you are kissing ass. Just lol

[Tears]

You literally have gone on and on about elections being pointless because the Dems will just steal it. And here you are kissing ass. Just lol

He's what you call an "indecisive voter"



lols

[PenorBrahNoHomo]

Trump won 18 of 19 bellwether counties that were perfect predictors of the outcome since 1980, yet still lost because Biden spurred a generational political realignment.

This is what you have to believe to believe that Biden won without fraud, i.e. you must be retarded.

Also don't forget that the vote counting was paused in the middle of the night in crucial democratic controlled inner cities.

[SmithMachineGuy]

Trump was an idiot for going so hard on the election fraud. There was never any upside to it.

1. Fraud was real and he was outsmarted by Joe Biden...this makes him look like a loser.
2. Fraud was not real and he lost to Joe Biden...also makes him look like a loser.


But he dug himself so deep in the hole he has to own it some how. I say he goes on TV admitting there was no election fraud and he's very sorry about the misunderstanding. Do it in the most sarcastic voice possible and then he do an exaggerated wink toward the camera, making his statement completely ambiguous. When pressed about it, he can just do it again until people get bored with it. Like on WWE when Shinsuke Nakamura apologized about hitting AJ Styles in the nuts.

[Noliberals4]

Trump won 18 of 19 bellwether counties that were perfect predictors of the outcome since 1980, yet still lost because Biden spurred a generational political realignment.

Democrats picked up suburban voters while Trump picked up more rural voters. Not that hard to figure out.

Biden won because he picked up Gary Johnson 2016 voters. Trump has a hard 47-48% ceiling and that won't win you a typical 2 party election.

[Noliberals4]

Trump was an idiot for going so hard on the election fraud. There was never any upside to it.

1. Fraud was real and he was outsmarted by Joe Biden...this makes him look like a loser.
2. Fraud was not real and he lost to Joe Biden...also makes him look like a loser.


But he dug himself so deep in the hole he has to own it some how. I say he goes on TV admitting there was no election fraud and he's very sorry about the misunderstanding. Do it in the most sarcastic voice possible and then he do an exaggerated wink toward the camera, making his statement completely ambiguous. When pressed about it, he can just do it again until people get bored with it. Like on WWE when Shinsuke Nakamura apologized about hitting AJ Styles in the nuts.

If Trump conceded graciously before January 6th, and then stayed focus on a comeback he would easily win 2024. Instead his idiot choices got nuked in 2022 and he has virtually no chance in 2024.

He shouldn't be sarcastic if he does apologize.

[volleys]

FBI/CIA has controlled our elections, without fail (including 2016s), since JFK got a new paintjob on his car. You're naïve to think otherwise.

[~Hades~]

Democrats picked up suburban voters while Trump picked up more rural voters. Not that hard to figure out.

Biden won because he picked up Gary Johnson 2016 voters. Trump has a hard 47-48% ceiling and that won't win you a typical 2 party election.

Biden won because they frauded the mail in votes

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[Phil9]

the lawsuit doesnt mean there was no fraud. it means the fraud did not happen the way they were accused of fraud. it could also mean that they settled because they dint want more dirty laundry coming out abut how news networks lie to viewers


you really think sleepy joe biden got more votes than obama? lmao

But you think Trump getting more votes than a way more popular Obama is totally legit? LOL.

Biden won because they frauded the mail in votes

/thread

Nope.


/thread and /election

[Phil9]

trump won 18 of 19 bellwether counties that were perfect predictors of the outcome since 1980, yet still lost because biden spurred a generational political realignment.

This is what you have to believe to believe that biden won without fraud, i.e. You must be retarded.

Also don't forget that the vote counting was paused in the middle of the night in crucial democratic controlled inner cities.

but muh bellwethers!

[TCmaxxing]

Just because compromised judges were paid off doesn’t mean actually fraud didn’t happen

[Phil9]

Just because compromised judges were paid off doesn’t mean actually fraud didn’t happen

Making up more conspiracy theories to justify the old CTs I see. Fuking deranged.

[Stizzel]

Literally no one denies the election was frauded fortified

[Noliberals4]

Biden won

Agreed

[JUSA]

I think this will be the 2016 equivalent of him "never denouncing white supremacy" even after he says it's time to move on and the election wasn't stolen, if he even does.