Growing too quickly?

[Gandog]

Hello,

Any thoughts of getting back into bodybuilding after getting so sick I can sleep after 20 beers a day. Something between bodybuilding and power lifting with a 4 day split. And being 38 almost, hard to eat relying on one meal a day, snacking on sliced meat and three to four protein shakes a day. Plus muscle memory and experience making me grow in muscle size maybe too quickly recently since joining the gym..?? Back at it for about a year now with a home bench and EZ bar, dumb bells. Moved up to a local gym, after conditioning. Went from 110 kg's technically, to 90 and now back to 100 depending on the day.

Main question being, am I probably pushing too hard or take the pain? Recovery seems to take longer as well, so half to half ass it sometimes. I know I don't eat enough, but that's a health problem.. Everyone has a different suggestion of how to lift.. I have heard good on you, to lower the weight and better quality sets. But, after a month at the gym or so, heavier lifter is working well, and improving form closer to how I use to lift. In so much pain now on my day off, time for sit ups.. I am not small..

Thought's?

[bodyhard]

Hello,

Any thoughts of getting back into bodybuilding after getting so sick I can sleep after 20 beers a day. Something between bodybuilding and power lifting with a 4 day split. And being 38 almost, hard to eat relying on one meal a day, snacking on sliced meat and three to four protein shakes a day. Plus muscle memory and experience making me grow in muscle size maybe too quickly recently since joining the gym..?? Back at it for about a year now with a home bench and EZ bar, dumb bells. Moved up to a local gym, after conditioning. Went from 110 kg's technically, to 90 and now back to 100 depending on the day.

Main question being, am I probably pushing too hard or take the pain? Recovery seems to take longer as well, so half to half ass it sometimes. I know I don't eat enough, but that's a health problem.. Everyone has a different suggestion of how to lift.. I have heard good on you, to lower the weight and better quality sets. But, after a month at the gym or so, heavier lifter is working well, and improving form closer to how I use to lift. In so much pain now on my day off, time for sit ups.. I am not small..

Thought's?

WTF are you trying to say?

[Gandog]

WTF are you trying to say?

Main question being, am I probably pushing too hard or take the pain? Recovery seems to take longer as well, so half to half ass it sometimes. I know I don't eat enough, but that's a health problem..

Been lifting for years, but older now, and have trouble eating enough.. People have both said good on you power lifting, body building / maybe drop the weights with better form. What I am doing is working, through a combination of power lifting and concentration or body building with better form. Also getting back into it so muscle memory is helping..

Thought id ask another opinion. A few people have given different opinions, but quality of lifts is improving lifting heavy weights.

Ohh and recovery time may be a problem pushing 100% compared to when I was 23 was pretty much the main question.. (guess ive mentioned this twice, main question I guess). Recovery! And over working myself maybe?

[TolerantLactose]

It's still not clear what you're asking.

[air2fakie]

OP, everything you’re saying is too vague and ambiguous for any useful feedback.

[Gandog]

For example, almost a week ago did leg's. I am still waddling around, and will have to do them for this week's set in about 12-15 hours. This is happening with almost all muscle group's, as in not fully recovering within a week, so I can keep the strength level and form. I do a 4 day split, and am trying to stick to Monday Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. But taking something like 10 days to recover 100%. It is working with muscle growth, good for me?

Pushed though it, been laying in bed in pain since lunch time, now 3am in the morn, have to drink myself to sleep.. 3x8 (all in Kg's) Squats 120 + the machine (can no longer get my hands behind my head to do free weights with squats), 3x8 300 + Leg presses + 3x8 380+ machine both on the leg press machine for calf raises, 3x6 120 Dead lifts (including Olympic bar), 3x12 80 leg lifts what ever that machine is, and get started on 200 sit ups 20x10 between beers which I do 5 night's a week sometimes 6.

So haven't done legs properly in a decade so in so much pain, leg day and back day (yesterday) are the biggest power lifting day's I do (also pec's on Monday, to a lesser extent probably). Just thought id ask, enjoying and getting good results quickly, but dam have been pain all day. Hence asking for your two cent's given recovery is taking more then 7 day's..

[GeneralSerpant]

Sounds like delayed onset muscle soreness.

[smokinal]

You're so all over the place I can't even comprehend...and I'm a pretty intelligent guy.

OMAD....4 shakes per day....20 beers a day....drink myself to sleep...wtf??

I've had a few beers tonight, but even so...you're questioning why you're not healing quickly enough?

Roll bread for sure...

[GeneralSerpant]

Didn’t Arnold say you need to be drinking beer? That’s why I did.

[Gandog]

Chemical brain damage caused the problem off insomnia, covered up, too expensive to see one of the professionals and won't last too much longer anyway. If I don't drink the beer will be awake for 2-4 weeks at a time, not counting micro sleeps (the lightest type of sleep/rest) for 20-40 minutes. You can't live properly let alone body build so do the best I can given the situation. Apparently one if not the worst forms prolonged torture, Ill leave it there.
Thanks for the suggestion of delayed onset muscle soreness. Ill research it.

[Bando]

This sounds like one of those AI things where a geek writes a program to read the forum and has a computer formulate a post.

[henryaham897]

It's really hard to get slimmer when your over 35 now. i didn't eat much but still getting fatter unlike when i was 20 to 32 years old i eat a lot of rice and still my body is thin like Spiderman

[Gandog]

I was right about it..

Simply if I took photos of before and after, growing massively everywhere. mainly back and chest...

Hard to recover in time, which was what I was asking about.

Back to it tomorrow..

[Karl_Hungus]

I was right about it..

Simply if I took photos of before and after, growing massively everywhere. mainly back and chest...

Hard to recover in time, which was what I was asking about.

Back to it tomorrow..

There is no world in which you add muscle "too fast", so not sure I understand this one. If your question is about being debilitated by severe DOMS, then you can ease into it if you haven't lifted in a long time, but generally DOMS decreases quite a bit as your experience increases. I still get sore, but nowhere near what I would get if I took a couple of months off and returned to my current routine full force.

[mtpockets]

Growing too quickly?

You sound like LWW's drunk uncle. If you share his genetics, your muscle is only growing during your workouts.

Shorter workouts should solve this.

If that don't work, the muscle is probably feeding itself. Stop eating..

You're Welcome Fukker...

[Gandog]

@mtpockets your an idiot, google "muscle micro tears" while working out you cause damage to muscle. It then repairs making you grow, as a summary if you can't figure out how to search that for correct information. If you are not sore for a day or few after working out give it up..

@Karl_Hungus that would be it, in a world of pain. Day off today, back at it tomorrow and Friday for the power lifting sigh.. I will just push through, miss appointments constantly until I get use to it again lol..

Thanks for the info to some..

[mtpockets]

@mtpockets your an idiot

I gave you sound advice and you call me names? I take that back you aren't the drunk uncle, you could be his alt account

You sound like LWW's drunk uncle. If you share his genetics, your muscle is only growing during your workouts.

Shorter workouts should solve this.

If that don't work, the muscle is probably feeding itself. Stop eating..

You're Welcome Fukker...

If you have been following along I have always said that the muscle is damaged during training in the form of micro tears and repairs during rest and recovery.

If I am an idiot, I am in good company, all those Professional bodybuilders and everyone in the ov 35 except you Tater.

Have a great day Fukker! Enjoy the soaps lol

[Gandog]

Look at responses to posts in other threads.
People seem to feel like they shouldn't post due to being called out it seems. All I am doing is asking for info, sitting in here in so much pain 2:20am. Kinda a good/bad thing knowing what I am doing is working. Hoping someone had other ideas other then dropping weight, I go up and down reps and sets to grow, so not applicable. Hopefully wake up and get through my back and forearm exercises, sore every where. Would like to keep the Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday routine.. Not get trolled.. Might need more rest between days but would rather avoid that... Too many trolls these days..

[air2fakie]

Look at responses to posts in other threads.
People seem to feel like they shouldn't post due to being called out it seems. All I am doing is asking for info, sitting in here in so much pain 2:20am. Kinda a good/bad thing knowing what I am doing is working. Hoping someone had other ideas other then dropping weight, I go up and down reps and sets to grow, so not applicable. Hopefully wake up and get through my back and forearm exercises, sore every where. Would like to keep the Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, Friday routine.. Not get trolled.. Might need more rest between days but would rather avoid that... Too many trolls these days..

Setting aside the fact you still haven't given any details of your program, you don't sound like you want to change anything you're doing anyway, so not sure what kind of advice you're looking for here. Regardless, you most likely need to adjust the volume & intensity of whatever you're doing.

[LWW]

Pockets, this OP is obviously not me or training under me.

OP stated that lower weights are not an option when sore.

I’m a huge fan of doing something rather than nothing for fast active recovery repair and using light weights for higher reps does just that.

[mtpockets]

I’m a huge fan of doing something rather than nothing for fast active recovery repair and using light weights for higher reps does just that.

Why would you need to recover or repair, if the muscle is built during training?

[LWW]

Why would you need to recover or repair, if the muscle is built during training?

That light weight higher rep “training” is building the muscle.

Not all lifting is tearing the muscles. Pumping blood into the muscles can also be part of building it.

look up blood flow and muscle recovery.

[mtpockets]

That light weight higher rep “training” is building the muscle.

Not all lifting is tearing the muscles. Pumping blood into the muscles can also be part of building it.

look up blood flow and muscle recovery.

LMAO you are so full of sh!t...Stop going off in another direction. Why the hell would you need to recover or repair a muscle if it was built during training ? You said...

I’m a huge fan of doing something rather than nothing for

fast active [/b[recovery repair[/b] and using light weights for higher reps does just that.

You should actually speak less, a closed mouth gathers no foot and brother, you just put both feet in your yap...


Feel free continue to spew more nonsense in any direction that you see fit and make yourself look like a bigger fool if you want but it won't take away from the fact that you mentioned the recovery/repair period after the training was done. Funny dat.


You tripped up, suck it up buttercup.

[Gandog]

I jump weights and reps.. Heavy/lighter, 4-12 reps, 3-4 sets...

Not as big as I use to be, getting back into it, no longer a proper six pack needing to drink so much.. Asking for ideas to recover quicker.

Seems use like to troll..

Ill try and get some sleep, 7:34 am after being poisoned or something 2 night's from a food delivery.

Leg day today.. Hopefully as long as I can wake up before 3pm or have better things to do..

[LWW]

LMAO you are so full of sh!t...Stop going off in another direction. Why the hell would you need to recover or repair a muscle if it was built during training ? You said...






You should actually speak less, a closed mouth gathers no foot and brother, you just put both feet in your yap...


Feel free continue to spew more nonsense in any direction that you see fit and make yourself look like a bigger fool if you want but it won't take away from the fact that you mentioned the recovery/repair period after the training was done. Funny dat.


You tripped up, suck it up buttercup.

Pockets, you probably don’t even pay attention to the way I lift.

I haven’t done much heavy lifting frequently in a year, in which those workouts tear/break down muscle fibers. I was working up to 15+ reps with 315 deads, which was my heavy stuff.

Since going lighter and training for hypertrophy via my routine, I have yet to see my muscles grow from resting. So far I see my muscles grow immediately during training and they stay that way. The food is part of the equation as food sustains those gains.

On the contrast, heavy lifting and breaking down the fibers, the muscles repair and grow during the resting, but one can still train very light while the muscle is still experiencing breakdown of fibers for faster recovery.

So I will continue to spew my nonsense. I don’t believe in doing what the masses do, I will discover another way.

[mtpockets]

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I’m a huge fan of doing something rather than nothing for fast active recovery repair and using light weights for higher reps does just that.

Why would you need to recover or repair, if the muscle is built during training?

[Gandog]

9:40 am, few more beers, back to it as long as I wake up... Growing quickly, extreme pain. Results are showing, women are agreeing..

Leg day sigh.. If I wake in time.. Always lovely talking to use asking for advice that may help recover quicker other then what ive mentioned, even though not mentioning my full schedule..

Use are actually right though. I probably won't change what I am doing.. If your not in pain your doing something wrong. Getting back into it is a bitch.. 10:13 bed time... AM

[mtpockets]

I’m a huge fan of doing something rather than nothing for fast active recovery repair and using light weights for higher reps does just that.

Why would you need to recover or repair, if the muscle is built during training?

the muscles repair and grow during the resting,

Yeah, that's what we have been trying to get into your thick skull.. Glad that you finally agree that the Muscle isn't built during training but during rest/recovery.

The food is part of the equation as food sustains those gains.

So the muscle don't feed itself... Been trying to tell you that for months. Glad you came around.

[LWW]

Why would you need to recover or repair, if the muscle is built during training?

Yeah, that's what we have been trying to get into your thick skull.. Glad that you finally agree that the Muscle isn't built during training but during rest/recovery.




So the muscle don't feed itself... Been trying to tell you that for months. Glad you came around.

You really are obsessed with manipulating what I say.

I don’t agree with what you are saying here.

I was talking about heavy lifts breaking down the muscles versus light weights and high reps.


Light weights you are not breaking down the muscle fibers, the muscle grows during training. In heavy lifting you need to recover. Light lifting recovers those tears. I’ve always said you have to eat.

You are becoming an annoyance.

Have a good day, I’m sure you’ll brag about it in some way. Good for you!

[mtpockets]

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