Starches vs Sugars

[GeneralSerpant]

Does anybody find a distinction between the two? By either terms of energy burn or appetite cravings?

I feel that I can work up cravings for starchy foods like potatoes, beans, and rice. It's different from a sweet tooth, or at least the flavors between the two groups aren't noticeably consistent.

[air2fakie]

This has likely been developed over time, but I expect starches to be part of my meals and make it so. It’s not so much a craving, but my body and stomach knows something is missing if I don’t have them.

I enjoy sugary stuff but can do without them, and eat them when fate has them cross my path.

[AdamWW]

I would say yes on average, but for me the biggest factor is fiber. White rice for example is a starchy carb, but the lack of fiber makes digestion much different.

Even foods that have a high amount of sugar can digest slower if they’re containing fiber, like certain fruits.

[DougyF7]

1-1.5 cups of fruit/day for women
2-2.5 cups of fruit/day for men (2 cups/day after age 60)

[air2fakie]

Oh, I thought OP meant more traditional sweets/snacks when he said sugar. I eat 2-4 servings of fruit most days.

[paulinkansas]

Fruitcake probably has both starches and sugars. That's why it's so popular around the holidays.

[Strawng]

Fruitcake probably has both starches and sugars. That's why it's so popular around the holidays.

Does anyone actually like fruitcake? I'm much more a blueberry muffin guy myself

[TolerantLactose]

I actually like fruitcake but they're so hard to find outside of Christmas.

[air2fakie]

I actually like fruitcake but they're so hard to find outside of Christmas.

I used to think fruitcake was an old-timey insult, like huckleberry (which I also learned was a real thing a while back).

[TolerantLactose]

I used to think fruitcake was an old-timey insult, like huckleberry (which I also learned was a real thing a while back).

That kind of fruitcake I'm not looking for but find everywhere.

[Strawng]

I actually like fruitcake but they're so hard to find outside of Christmas.

Hmmm. Maybe I should give it another shot. To be fair, the only fruitcake I've ever had was my grandma's, and EVERYTHING she makes is awful.

I used to think fruitcake was an old-timey insult, like huckleberry (which I also learned was a real thing a while back).

Fruitcake is a pretty common Boomer term, but "huckleberry" I've definitely never heard. As a fruit, huckleberries are pretty damn good. They're basically blueberries.

[Camarija]

Does anyone actually like fruitcake? I'm much more a blueberry muffin guy myself

I like the idea of cake/pie more than I actually enjoy eating it

Now I'll request a mango for dessert instead

[air2fakie]

Fruitcake is a pretty common Boomer term, but "huckleberry" I've definitely never heard. As a fruit, huckleberries are pretty damn good. They're basically blueberries.

[GeneralSerpant]

Oh, I thought OP meant more traditional sweets/snacks when he said sugar. I eat 2-4 servings of fruit most days.

Yes. I meant by separation between two different carbohydrates. Notably distinct from each other by taste.

[paulinkansas]

My daughter in law is Facebook friends with Val Kilmer. They message each other from time to time. That's my other claim to fame besides lifting with Franco Columbu's wife's ex-husband.

[GeneralSerpant]

I would say yes on average, but for me the biggest factor is fiber. White rice for example is a starchy carb, but the lack of fiber makes digestion much different.

Even foods that have a high amount of sugar can digest slower if they’re containing fiber, like certain fruits.

I don't think potatoes are particularly fibrous (nor sweet for that matter), but smaller ones with higher skin-flesh ratio might be different.

As far as fruit is concerned, apples are probably your first bet. It's just a matter of texture for insoluble fiber.

Isn't soluble fiber linked to ldl cholesterol rinsing?

[air2fakie]

I don't think potatoes are particularly fibrous (nor sweet for that matter), but smaller ones with higher skin-flesh ratio might be different.

Some potatoes are both high in fiber and sweet.

[DougyF7]

Some potatoes are both high in fiber and sweet.

Let me guess...sweet potatoes?

[GeneralSerpant]

Some potatoes are both high in fiber and sweet.

True. I'm put off by sweet potato fries so I kind of forgot about the potato itself, but I also have to look into those fibrous potatoes.

[air2fakie]

True. I'm put off by sweet potato fries so I kind of forgot about the potato itself, but I also have to look into those fibrous potatoes.

Baked sweet potatoes taste pretty good IMO.

[AdamWW]

I don't think potatoes are particularly fibrous (nor sweet for that matter), but smaller ones with higher skin-flesh ratio might be different.

As far as fruit is concerned, apples are probably your first bet. It's just a matter of texture for insoluble fiber.

Isn't soluble fiber linked to ldl cholesterol rinsing?

'rinsing' ??

[GeneralSerpant]

'rinsing' ??

Combating ldl buildup.

[AdamWW]

Combating ldl buildup.

That isn’t the mechanism by which fiber attenuates the accumulation of LDL.

Fiber forms bulk in the intestines, binding to cholesterol and thus limiting its absorption… that’s the main reason fiber can lower LDL. “Combating buildup” seems to imply it literally removes plaque from arteries…. I’m actually not sure if there is a means to do that at all (literally remove plaque after it’s there), but definitely not via fiber.

[GeneralSerpant]

That isn’t the mechanism by which fiber attenuates the accumulation of LDL.

Fiber forms bulk in the intestines, binding to cholesterol and thus limiting its absorption… that’s the main reason fiber can lower LDL. “Combating buildup” seems to imply it literally removes plaque from arteries…. I’m actually not sure if there is a means to do that at all (literally remove plaque after it’s there), but definitely not via fiber.

Yeah I googled it after you asked and that's what I found out.

Ironic, if you google "how to remove tarter," you get endless results telling you to brush regularly.