Russia vs Ukraine Thread VIII- Spring Thaw Time to Withdraw

[CroForce]

Video was uploaded yesterday, Zaluzhnyi appears @0:34

[Ikeman83]

scale in meters

to push west is to go through the lower lands where ukraine will have a 20-100 meter advantage depending on the area

Not what's being discussed, nor does Russia have to advance due west from Bakhmut.

What's being discussed is that the Ukrainians have taken some open fields miles from Bakhmut and people think that the territory is defensible because HiLlS! Except that the territory they advanced through is literally not a hill, just an open field with no cover.

[memcop]

Video was uploaded yesterday, Zaluzhnyi appears @0:34

They also showed him swimming in Mariupol from 2018. Are you saying he recorded this yesterday or is it from another time?

I dont think he is dead. I think it is something else but do not know what.

[CroForce]

They also showed him swimming in Mariupol from 2018. Are you saying he recorded this yesterday or is it from another time?

I dont think he is dead. I think it is something else but do not know what.

I don't know, but the weather and vegetation shows that it could have been filmed recently. I will let Russian and Ukrainian speaking brahs to dig when it was recorded, it shouldn't be too hard because the title describes the event

Відкриття Міжнародної конференції з нагоди Дня науки у НУ«ОЮА»
Opening of the International Conference on the occasion of the Day of Science at NU "OYUA"

edit: I guess they have this occasion across the entire country, the Science Day was on May 19th https://nrfu.org.ua/en/news-en/scien...e-may-19-2023/

edit2: or May 20th, not sure https://anydayguide.com/calendar/548

Science Day in Ukraine is celebrated on the third Saturday in May. It was officially established by President Leonid Kuchma in 1997 and has been celebrated annually ever since.
The history of modern Ukrainian science begins in the 17th century, when the Kyiv-Mohyla Academy was founded. The National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine was established in 1918 by renowned scientist Vladimir Vernadsky.

Science Day, also known as Day of Science or Day of Ukrainian Science, is a nationwide celebration of science, which is observed as a professional holiday of scientists and scientific workers. It is marked with ceremonial meetings and public speeches in scientific and educational institutions throughout the country.

[Stizzel]

I dunno if this guy pulls these numbers out of his ass but interesting video
TLDR: this was the biggest battle in the entire war

40k losses for the nazis vs less than 1000 for the russians. God damn

[exxtracool]

Who is responsible if an F16 is responsible for a strike in Russia?

Remember there used to be a standard regarding military assistance short of being involved. When Russia shows up backing the next flip flop wearing country we are beating on, then what?

This is remarkably stupid. If Ukraine chose to stand and fight, they should do so with their own military and their ability to provide for it.

More of the same.

Russia is responsible for allowing an f16 to cross into russia proper lmao.

How would it be the wests responsibility for an action taken by a western aircraft NOT being piloted by a nato pilot? Do you know how many f16s have been sold world wide? Would it all be the USAs “responsibility” if when and how they are used?



You guys act like countries providing military assistance for other countries at war is some unprecedented shiet. Usa-ussr ww2? Usa-britain ww2? Ussr-north korea korean war? Ussr-north vietnamese Vietnam war? Usa-mujihadeen afghanistan? This is nothing new.

[dabbmw2002]

I don't know, but the weather and vegetation shows that it could have been filmed recently. I will let Russian and Ukrainian speaking brahs to dig when it was recorded, it shouldn't be too hard because the title describes the event

Відкриття Міжнародної конференції з нагоди Дня науки у НУ«ОЮА»
Opening of the International Conference on the occasion of the Day of Science at NU "OYUA"

edit: I guess they have this occasion across the entire country, the Science Day was on May 19th https://nrfu.org.ua/en/news-en/scien...e-may-19-2023/

edit2: or May 20th, not sure https://anydayguide.com/calendar/548

They show a brief shot of outside but Zaluzny's part is recorded with the background obscured with comments off.

Unless he said something that we can track to the last week and a half, I'm not sure it proves much. My Russian is a little rusty.

[BeginnerGainz]

lol silly conspiracy theory.

Western nations are so called 'slow rolling' because individual nations do not want to contribute their equipment because they know Russia will turn it into scrap metal. Nobody wants their equipment exposed because it will hurt international orders.

The only country that doesn't seem concerned is the UK; I don't really think the UK really knows what's going on.

When F-16 turn up and all get shot down it will not look good and will especially impact orders in the ME, who will then purchase Russian equipment instead.

The F-16 is nothing special and will get merked by the Russians.

Western nations like fighting much weaker nations they can steamroll; this results in huge orders for their equipment. Sending their equipment to be destroyed in two days by Russia has the opposite effect.

I mean we already seen burning hulks of Turk leopard tanks and Saudi Abrams tanks in other conflicts around the world, but something tells me the western propaganda machine somehow won’t allow us to see anything like that on mainstream media.

[Stizzel]

[BeginnerGainz]

40k losses for the nazis vs less than 1000 for the russians. God damb

They had all the major roads save for 1 blocked off and bombed the ever living sh!t out of whatever tried to come up the road. But the Ukrainians just kept sending more and more people.

I think part of the Russian strategy was to make this as bloody for the Ukes and mercenaries fighting with them as possible. Attrition, and all that.

[Stizzel]

They had all the major roads save for 1 blocked off and bombed the ever living sh!t out of whatever tried to come up the road. But the Ukrainians just kept sending more and more people.

I think part of the Russian strategy was to make this as bloody for the Ukes and mercenaries fighting with them as possible. Attrition, and all that.

All ukraine has ever had to do to take territory from russia is present them with a force capable of inflicting at least moderate losses on them. The russians will retreat in that scenario 100% of the time, but they'll inflict huge casualties while doing it.

This is how ukraine took kharkov and kherson and huge swaths of land....but now? All they can take is some empty fields. This speaks to how broken and disfunctional the ukrainian military is now

Its a lot harder to replace men and equipment than dirt

[keyboardworkout]

Video was uploaded yesterday, Zaluzhnyi appears @0:34

LOL, wonder how old that is?

[Stizzel]

Confirmed zaluzhniy in critical condition

[Banderistan]

Russia is responsible for allowing an f16 to cross into russia proper lmao.

How would it be the wests responsibility for an action taken by a western aircraft NOT being piloted by a nato pilot? Do you know how many f16s have been sold world wide? Would it all be the USAs “responsibility” if when and how they are used?



You guys act like countries providing military assistance for other countries at war is some unprecedented shiet. Usa-ussr ww2? Usa-britain ww2? Ussr-north korea korean war? Ussr-north vietnamese Vietnam war? Usa-mujihadeen afghanistan? This is nothing new.

K keep saying that when Lviv gets nuked.

Russia = giant bear
Ukraine = barking Chihuahua

End well this will not.

[BasedBagel]

This a reminder of what Zelensky said about Bakhmut when he visited D.C. and gave a speech to our congress on 12/21/2022

He says Bakhmut is the “stronghold in the Donbass” and that the Battle for Bakhmut will “change the trajectory of our war”.

https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/s...04198711570434


Someone from the retard crew should tell Zelensky Bakhmut has no tactical or strategic value, ayyLMAO

[BalkanPrince]

Zelensky timed this perfectly along with Biden. Bakhmut falling and he goes on a trip to secure more funding before the inevitable realization that Bakhmut is no longer controlled by Ukraine. The media has also clung on to Zelensky’s statement that the city hasn’t fallen. Notice every Western article says “Wagner chief claims Bakhmut victory - but Zelensky denies”.

I am sorry but when do you get to make up your own reality? Imagine a headline that reads “Bin Laden claims 9/11 attack - Bush denies it ever happened”. Lmfaoo what?

In war you do not get to make up your own facts, the only thing that counts is what is actually happening on the ground and without a ounce of doubt - Bakhmut is 100% under Russian control.


Our media is a fukin embarrassment - it’s Vietnam all over. Tell the sheep we are winning despite reality being different

[Muscle2021]

Russian MOD release a whole bunch of new footage from the Mariupol siege.

https://files.catbox.moe/6dz99p.mp4

[jackamo2887]

Zelensky timed this perfectly along with Biden. Bakhmut falling and he goes on a trip to secure more funding before the inevitable realization that Bakhmut is no longer controlled by Ukraine. The media has also clung on to Zelensky’s statement that the city hasn’t fallen. Notice every Western article says “Wagner chief claims Bakhmut victory - but Zelensky denies”.

I am sorry but when do you get to make up your own reality? Imagine a headline that reads “Bin Laden claims 9/11 attack - Bush denies it ever happened”. Lmfaoo what?

In war you do not get to make up your own facts, the only thing that counts is what is actually happening on the ground and without a ounce of doubt - Bakhmut is 100% under Russian control.


Our media is a fukin embarrassment - it’s Vietnam all over. Tell the sheep we are winning despite reality being different

Bahkmut was never meant to be held. This was never part of ukraines defensive strategy.

[Muscle2021]

Bahkmut was never meant to be held. This was never part of ukraines defensive strategy.

awwwwww... lol come on man

[yabbayabba]

Bahkmut was never meant to be held. This was never part of ukraines defensive strategy.

This a reminder of what Zelensky said about Bakhmut when he visited D.C. and gave a speech to our congress on 12/21/2022

He says Bakhmut is the “stronghold in the Donbass” and that the Battle for Bakhmut will “change the trajectory of our war”.

https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/s...04198711570434


Someone from the retard crew should tell Zelensky Bakhmut has no tactical or strategic value, ayyLMAO

I mean I'm not surprised your goy boy Zelensky has no idea what's going on in his own country with him traveling all over the world whoring himself out for a few more bucks.

LOL that Ukraine spent years building up defenses in the city and just got done sacrificing thousands of troops for something they never intended to hold. The retard crew denial on this one is off the charts.

[Googooly]

Bahkmut was never meant to be held. This was never part of ukraines defensive strategy.

Lol.

[Googooly]

Russian MOD release a whole bunch of new footage from the Mariupol siege.

https://files.catbox.moe/6dz99p.mp4

Great video and the music! So catchy.

[Banderistan]

This a reminder of what Zelensky said about Bakhmut when he visited D.C. and gave a speech to our congress on 12/21/2022

He says Bakhmut is the “stronghold in the Donbass” and that the Battle for Bakhmut will “change the trajectory of our war”.

https://twitter.com/WarClandestine/s...04198711570434


Someone from the retard crew should tell Zelensky Bakhmut has no tactical or strategic value, ayyLMAO

Zelensky when Ukraine is defending in Bakhmut: "Bakhmut is the key to everything! Send more weapons!"

Zelensky when Bakhmut falls: "LOL Bakhmut was only a distraction! You have won nothing! It didn't even matter bro!"

These are not serious people. He's a comedian and his job is to make everyone laugh at the absurdity of the situation. Unfortunately, there is little to laugh about except at the stupidity of our species.

[ghostfacedup]

Ukraine getting that ASS WHOOPED. lmao. we paid for it. great job, sheep.

[Islandboyo]

Zelensky timed this perfectly along with Biden. Bakhmut falling and he goes on a trip to secure more funding before the inevitable realization that Bakhmut is no longer controlled by Ukraine. The media has also clung on to Zelensky’s statement that the city hasn’t fallen. Notice every Western article says “Wagner chief claims Bakhmut victory - but Zelensky denies”.

I am sorry but when do you get to make up your own reality? Imagine a headline that reads “Bin Laden claims 9/11 attack - Bush denies it ever happened”. Lmfaoo what?

In war you do not get to make up your own facts, the only thing that counts is what is actually happening on the ground and without a ounce of doubt - Bakhmut is 100% under Russian control.


Our media is a fukin embarrassment - it’s Vietnam all over. Tell the sheep we are winning despite reality being different

wonder if it well ever click in some of your heads that the same disinformation and down right lies the western media is spreading today about the Ukraine war, is what they have been doing about every war since World War 1. Literally create your own narrative that you want the sheep to believe despite the facts.

[Stizzel]

Bahkmut was never meant to be held. This was never part of ukraines defensive strategy.

[Banderistan]

wonder if it well ever click in some of your heads that the same disinformation and down right lies the western media is spreading today about the Ukraine war, is what they have been doing about every war since World War 1. Literally create your own narrative that you want the sheep to believe despite the facts.

True, but we also have evidence. If you're gonna go into holocaust denial and other crap, I would refer you to hitler's speeches where he flat out gloated about doing what he did.

[SlavaUkrain]

awwwwww... lol come on man

The goal of Bahkmut was alwys to kill as much russian invaders as possible. Ukraine will fight untill denazification of russia is completed.

[BasedBagel]

The goal of Bahkmut was alwys to kill as much russian invaders as possible. Ukraine will fight untill denazification of russia is completed.

awwwwww... lol come on man

[jackamo2887]

The goal of Bahkmut was alwys to kill as much russian invaders as possible. Ukraine will fight untill denazification of russia is completed.

I concur. As do the majority of experts.