Russia vs Ukraine Thread VIII- Spring Thaw Time to Withdraw

[memcop]

make fun of anything russian and its like the bat signal

No. I just need you to define your hyperbole with substance.

Still waiting btw.

[Smithers115]

So having a rough estimate or knowing roughly how many Russians have been killed is irrelevant to your claim that the Russian youth is being decimated? Or genocided as you said hyperbolically?

Interesting.

dude how remedial are you?

[Smithers115]

No. I just need you to define your hyperbole with substance.

Still waiting btw.

I'll type out my answer a second time

hundreds of thousands of young russians will be irrevocably scarred from this war

Is that enough substance or do you need me to define some words here...

pro tip, the people with an above room temperature IQ's can fill in the blanks that a significant number to make this coherent without needing a specific number

[memcop]

It is identical to a confirmed kinzhal undetonated warhead from before. The only other thing it could realistically be is the iskander missile which azerbaijan has an example of used against them, also undetonated. This one has visual differences at the lower portion of the warhead compared to the iskander, also the thickness of outer wall doesnt match.

It isnt 100% confirmed this was a kinzhal but it looks pretty likely.

There isn't enough information to make that claim. It could be an Iskander or any near variant.

Just lemme see the tip bro. Then we can argue over whether it was an iskander or kinzahl.

[memcop]

I'll type out my answer a second time

hundreds of thousands of young russians will be irrevocably scarred from this war

Is that enough substance or do you need me to define some words here...

Will this scarring impact the war and how so?

[Smithers115]

Will this scarring impact the war and how so?

its irrelevant to my point, my hyperbole had to do with the lasting societal effects of war after combat so no Gladius, emperor of the MISC senate

*makes fun of russian Mcdonalds

HEY GUISE, RUSSIAN MCDONALDS IS POVERTY

here ya go champ, ask me how the lack of pickles on the mcruski burger will affect shell discrepancies at the front line

You laugh about pickles but it is all of us that will be in a pickle

[mryamamoto]

make fun of anything russian and its like the bat signal

****'s weird. Going on since the conflict started

but keeps claiming "i'm neutral bro" and no Russian background.

[yabbayabba]

****'s weird. Going on since the conflict started

but keeps claiming "i'm neutral bro" and no Russian background.

You mean like the retard crew members that go in any thread about Russia or Putin in main Misc and cry about how Poots hurts their feelings? LOL, and I mean LOL at thinking the retard crew has any moral high ground.

Given the continued sperg out by the retard crew this morning I'm guessing that Russia hasn't given up. As usual the retard crew got themselves worked up over nothing.

[dabbmw2002]

****'s weird. Going on since the conflict started

but keeps claiming "i'm neutral bro" and no Russian background.

I'm pretty sure several of the pro ukraine posters here have eastern european backgrounds, and some of the over the top Pro Russian posters have Russian backgrounds.

There are a couple of us here who are neutral, but neutrality cant be recognized by those emotionally involved.

Here is my neutral stance- Both sides behavior contributed to this war starting, they have a complicated history going back hundreds of years, the only way the US and Europe should have intervened is as a peacekeeper not to provide weapons and dangle NATO in front of Ukraine. If this is not a neutral stance could anyone explain exactly what a neutral stance would be?

[Smithers115]

millions of videos of people being pulled off the street and forced to mobilize.

for someone autistically trying to hold me to my words and demand a number out of me, you sure dont seem to follow your beliefs

Millions, lmao

Numbers really have zero meaning to you do they dabb

(this is annoying and stupid isnt it???)

[exxtracool]

There isn't enough information to make that claim. It could be an Iskander or any near variant.

Just lemme see the tip bro. Then we can argue over whether it was an iskander or kinzahl.

There is only one variant of the iskander it could be, and that is the iskander-m.

The other variants have too short range. 40-200km. At that range there is no place in current occupied territory close enoygh to hit kyiv considering they are all surface to air.

Even the iskander-m missile has a 400km (possibly 500 but that is only speculation) effective range, so if it is the iskander-m it would mean that it was fired from the closest point at the russian-ukrainiqn border OR was fired from belarus.



Or ofc… occams razor…. Its a fuking kinzhal lol.

[dabbmw2002]

for someone autistically trying to hold me to my words and demand a number out of me, you sure dont seem to follow your beliefs

Millions, lmao

Numbers really have zero meaning to you do they dabb

(this is annoying and stupid isnt it???)

Fair point.The dozens, not millions of videos i've seen show that ukraine is suffering a manpower problem. I can provide the evidence to support my claim

Russia's youth is being destroyed, What is your rough estimate of Russians killed.

[shyheimz]

- nvm

[dabbmw2002]

100% Western European here, so let me try to explain this to you as brief as I can: the USSR wasn't what some older Russian people make it seem like it was outside of the Russian SFSR (+- what Russia is today). Basically the RSFSR controlled all the republics of the Soviet Union and used them for their own gains and used its military force to keep local people obedient, both withing the USSR (eg. Georgia (1) and Ukraine (2), Uzbekistan (3), ...) as in its sattelite states (Eastern Bloc). Most famously Poland (4), Hungary (5) and the Czechoslowak Socialist Republic (6).

To give you some examples on some uprisings from those states against the USSR, which were all ended by military force.
(1) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_Uprising
(2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-S...Insurgent_Army (and most famously the man-made famine to give you an idea on how Russia cared for its brethren: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor )
(3) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basmachi_movement
(4) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_October
(5) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungar...lution_of_1956
(6) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague_Spring
I could give you many more examples, but let's start with this.


It shouldn't come as a surprise that a lot of those countries, once the USSR fell and the end of the Warsaw Pact, wanted to get away from the Eastern Bloc and sought protection in the West. That's how in the '90s countries like Poland, Czechia and Hungary (4 - 5 - 6, cf. supra) were to join NATO and later other countries that were actually part of the USSR joined too (eg. Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania).

So please, let's stop with the "dangle NATO in front of", and accept that those countries wanted to leave the Russian Bloc for a Western Bloc to have some securities that they wouldn't fall under Russian Rule again...
...quod errat demonstrandum.

So Estonia and Latvia joined and Russia didn't nothing? It's almost like Ukraine was a different situation since the US was giving them weapons to go on the offensive against Russia, specifically Russian speakers in the Donbass after assisting in Maiden. As I said if the United States was not meddling in Ukrainian affairs we wouldn't have this problem today.



The reason we dangled NATO but did not bring Ukraine in was because we wanted an army to field against Russia without the legal requirement to join directly in the conflict. The one hundred billion that we will not track in Ukraine that has shown up in bank accounts all across Europe taken by the Ukrainian leadership and generals, was the payoff for using their military.

I'm actually more pro ukraine than some of the posters here ironically enough.

[Smithers115]

So let's stop with the "dangle NATO in front of", and accept that those countries wanted to leave the Russian Bloc and willingly joined the a Western Bloc to have some securities that they wouldn't fall under Russian Rule again...
...quod errat demonstrandum. So now Finland joined as well and Sweden is on the verge of it.

bro this logic is strong but fails when confronted by the ultimate skeptic trap card

"The CIA did it"

[Smithers115]

Fair point.The dozens, not millions of videos i've seen show that ukraine is suffering a manpower problem. I can provide the evidence to support my claim

Russia's youth is being destroyed, What is your rough estimate of Russians killed.

meme cop gave our bottom at 50k so between 50k-150k

The fog of war and propaganda makes it impossible for an outsider to be able to estimate

[memcop]

meme cop gave our bottom at 50k so between 50k-150k

The fog of war and propaganda makes it impossible for an outsider to be able to estimate

Estimated dead. Not all loss bit you're in that range.


On another note...
https://twitter.com/ChrisWohoa/statu...ZbVbPAQEQ&s=19

Just waiting on more info. Not sure if the link is accurate but there happens to be specs on these items.

[dabbmw2002]

bro this logic is strong but fails when confronted by the ultimate skeptic trap card

"The CIA did it"

Strawman. I said the US assisted. That is not even debatable.

[Smithers115]

Strawman. I said the US assisted. That is not even debatable.

Nein, it wasn't directed at your response to him

tbh i didnt even read what you wrote when i wrote that, its just a common argument for the colour revolutions

[dabbmw2002]

Nein, it wasn't directed at your response to him

tbh i didnt even read what you wrote when i wrote that, its just a common argument for the colour revolutions

So you are saying that US intelligence is not involved in any way in the political activities of former BLOC countries that want a closer relationship with the West?

[Smithers115]

- nvm

i aspire for this energy

[mulletwarrior]

Haven't checked in on this thread or this war in general for a while. A few questions:

1) Has Ukraine won yet?

2) Are sanctions still working?

3) Is Zelensky still on the front lines wearing his camo?

[dabbmw2002]

- nvm

Well, thanks for playing

[BasedBagel]

Estimated dead. Not all loss bit you're in that range.


On another note...
https://twitter.com/ChrisWohoa/statu...ZbVbPAQEQ&s=19

Just waiting on more info. Not sure if the link is accurate but there happens to be specs on these items.

Whatever was shot down looks more like a BetAB-500ShP concrete-piercing bomb, not a Kinzhal





https://files.catbox.moe/ybjgtu.mp4

[memcop]

Whatever was shot down looks more like a BetAB-500ShP concrete-piercing bomb, not a Kinzhal





https://files.catbox.moe/ybjgtu.mp4

I knew they would fuk up and get too cocky. They hid it in the first round of photos.

Though they still may have shot one down. I just don't think the two may be related.

But it goes to prove Russia is lobbing old inventory by the hundreds..

[memcop]

Well, thanks for playing

It wasn't that good. Old Warsaw pact post and these nations chosing their fate.

[Ikarsuz1337]

"Full video of Norwegian redditors getting under fire. 4 minutes."
https://files.catbox.moe/z1ufrv.mp4

[devopsengineer]

It wasn't that good. Old Warsaw pact post and these nations chosing their fate.

They chose fate of nuclear desert.

[yabbayabba]

Whatever was shot down looks more like a BetAB-500ShP concrete-piercing bomb, not a Kinzhal

https://files.catbox.moe/ybjgtu.mp4

For the mental state of the retard crew I hope it was a Kinzhal.

No Russian withdrawal.
No more meme city.
No counteroffensive.
No hypersonic missile shot down.

Might want to keep sharp objects and rope away from them for awhile.

[yabbayabba]

"Full video of Norwegian redditors getting under fire. 4 minutes."
https://files.catbox.moe/z1ufrv.mp4

When real life doesn't match Reddit expectations. Though that video can't be any time recent.