Russia vs Ukraine Thread VIII- Spring Thaw Time to Withdraw

[memcop]

Terrible argument. First, there has never been a time when “everybody is doing fine”, second its europes own fault for becoming overly dependent on a singular source for somethng as crucial as energy in place of promoting its own production.

Whos fault is it that europe decided to “go green bro” and take a **** on its own energy sectors?

Whos fault is it the partner europe chose to become dependent on was a known ticking time bomb? How long was europe warned about precisely this?



Finally, these predictions of western collapse are getting old af. Relax. Go ride your bike back to your canal boathouse or whatever you guys do in the netherlands, everything will be fine. Europe has been through much much worse than this.

1200 a month cannot last forever and indeed causes collapse.

I'm not sure what is fantastical about that. The government can only supply assistance for so long as it has to have a host to leech on to begin with in order to work.

[dabbmw2002]

I dont see any Ukrainians complaining about fighting in Bakhmut. Do you? Post the evidence

I made ZERO claims. You did. You post the evidence.

You know what, never mind. I can't believe you losers are here posting on a Sunday. I was just dropping in to check in on you guys. Get a life ph*ggets. I'm out.

[exxtracool]

1200 a month cannot last forever and indeed causes collapse.

I'm not sure what is fantastical about that. The government can only supply assistance for so long as it has to have a host to leech on to begin with in order to work.

So your argument is that european social welfare programs will lead to societal collapse?

I dont really see how that has anythjng to do with the points i was making but ehhh okay i guess.

[Stizzel]

I dont see any Ukrainians complaining about fighting in Bakhmut. Do you? Post the evidence

Good thing corpses don't complain

[memcop]

So your argument is that european social welfare programs will lead to societal collapse?

I dont really see how that has anythjng to do with the points i was making but ehhh okay i guess.

Absolutely not. That is not the argument I made whatsoever

No one here made that point. You made it up.

How about you discern what we both actually said to you and you can start over?

[Kane_89]

Good thing corpses don't complain

You just said you were "sad" about the loss of life, now youre making jokes about corpses.

What a fraud lol

[Stizzel]

You just said you were "sad" about the loss of life, now youre making jokes about corpses.

What a fraud lol

Wheres the joke idiot?

[exxtracool]

Absolutely not. That is not the argument I made whatsoever

No one here made that point. You made it up.

How about you discern what we both actually said to you and you can start over?

I cant really do that if i have to decipher your posts to find the points youre trying to make bro.


What is your point in relation to what i posted?

[Barteh]

Terrible argument. First, there has never been a time when “everybody is doing fine”, second its europes own fault for becoming overly dependent on a singular source for somethng as crucial as energy in place of promoting its own production.

Whos fault is it that europe decided to “go green bro” and take a **** on its own energy sectors?

Whos fault is it the partner europe chose to become dependent on was a known ticking time bomb? How long was europe warned about precisely this?



Finally, these predictions of western collapse are getting old af. Relax. Go ride your bike back to your canal boathouse or whatever you guys do in the netherlands, everything will be fine. Europe has been through much much worse than this.

Europe is doing a lot worse today compared to 2 years ago as a direct result of their involvement in the war with Russia. I'm not even sure why you'd try to argue against that and add a lot of irrelevant bullchit in your reply.

[PimpinisEasy]

Damn first europe freezes to death and now their banking system collapses. Ruff times for the west.

All hail emperor putin. Allamduhlilah.

Are you stupid?

Credit Suise, DB, SVB etc. are all in trouble...

You morons laughed at the financial imapct of this war. Now we get to see the fallout... all because idiots like you lead other stupid people, the blind leading the blind.

I am genuinely at the point where I am putting toether a Plan B, because I don't know what the future holds for the UK anymore..... meanwhile chitheads like you are posting the same tired dumb chit online.

[memcop]

I cant really do that if i have to decipher your posts to find the points youre trying to make bro.


What is your point in relation to what i posted?

Europe is doing a lot worse today compared to 2 years ago as a direct result of their involvement in the war with Russia. I'm not even sure why you'd try to argue against that and add a lot of irrelevant bullchit in your reply.

He can't help it. He's Canadian and trying to be aggressive. It's not in his nature.

Europe cannot sustain the fuel prices without radical impact to their economy

[PimpinisEasy]

Are we pretending Europe isn't fukked? My country literally has 1,5 million people right now who cannot survive without getting food handouts from the government or charity. My parents' gas bill rose in 1 year from 100 euros a month to 1200 during last winter. Fukkin LMAO if you're pretending everybody is doing fine and Europe is feeling nothing from this whole gas crisis and dumb war.

He lives in Canada. Americans (and Canadians, they're basically the same) couldn't give a phuck what happens to Europe. Europe is phucked.

The UK needs a slap ion the face, the US has compeltely phucked us and we're signing a deal to start a submarine war with China... we're like the battered wife who says he still loves us.

[devopsengineer]

Are you stupid?

Credit Suise, DB, SVB etc. are all in trouble...

That is only top of the iceberg. Nobody speaks about all steel and aluminum companies in EU closing. For Aluminum production you need a lot of cheap electricity. And now it is too expensive in EU.

As well as chemical companies who moved to USA and china. Because there is cheap gas there.

But everyone talks about banks.

[PimpinisEasy]

Terrible argument. First, there has never been a time when “everybody is doing fine”, second its europes own fault for becoming overly dependent on a singular source for somethng as crucial as energy in place of promoting its own production.

Whos fault is it that europe decided to “go green bro” and take a **** on its own energy sectors?

Whos fault is it the partner europe chose to become dependent on was a known ticking time bomb? How long was europe warned about precisely this?



Finally, these predictions of western collapse are getting old af. Relax. Go ride your bike back to your canal boathouse or whatever you guys do in the netherlands, everything will be fine. Europe has been through much much worse than this.

Europe is phucked beyond repair.

We have tiny birth rates, massive sovereign debt, inverted demographic triangles, huge inflation and all of our social services are on the brink of collapse.

Super low itnerest rates for years have driven the cost of property to untenable levels. Europeans don;t have kids because the price of property is too high. Europe is in terminal decline.

The next step will be radical far left / Far-right governments....


I am starting to work on my plan B. Probbaly move to the Middle East.

[PimpinisEasy]

That is only top of the iceberg. Nobody speaks about all steel and aluminum companies in EU closing. For Aluminum production you need a lot of cheap electricity. And now it is too expensive in EU.

As well as chemical companies who moved to USA and china. Because there is cheap gas there.

But everyone talks about banks.

I have a background working in Chemicals....

My last company was throwing fits about the erngy price. Guess how they responded... they were moving eveyrthing from the UK & Germany to the US & Middle East.

[exxtracool]

Europe is doing a lot worse today compared to 2 years ago as a direct result of their involvement in the war with Russia. I'm not even sure why you'd try to argue against that and add a lot of irrelevant bullchit in your reply.

“Irrelevant bullchit” good way of not addressing anything lol.

Eu Gas prices have stabilized to a multiyear low, so idk what kind of energy bill your parents are getting thats 12x what it used to be. Your anecdote aside, eu is objectively doing better than most financial predictions at the turn of this war.


Considering that europe had to transition its entire energy demand in an almost immediate u-turn, i would say they have done a very good job of things. But dont let me rational thought support by real evidence get in the way of your “europe is doomed” larp.

If europe is so fuked like you claim, rhen why do you continue to live there? You remind me of those celebrities that endlessly post of social media about rising sea levels then buy property in malibu and miami lmao.

I have a background working in Chemicals....

My last company was throwing fits about the erngy price. Guess how they responded... they were moving eveyrthing from the UK & Germany to the US & Middle East.

You have a background in everything iranbrah, except reality lol.

[PimpinisEasy]

You have a background in everything iranbrah, except reality lol.

You're the one who is delusional. Yeh I work in engineering... wtf do you expect chit for brains.

This was with Russia that was provoked by the US is primarily harming Europe.

Although i have a suspicion the US may end getting severely harmed by this... day by day it seems that China is reducing the dayloght between the two nations.

[chalup]

They can't hold it though. Right now it's of no use to either side. Only a matter of time before Russia controls it fully. All of the men dying to delay that date could be used to form the next defensive line, but now they're just fertilizing the soil. Very sad, to me at least. I know you chicken hawk nazi lovers give no fuks about their lives.

Who can't hold what? You said Bakmut was going to fall any day back in October. Want me to quote it Stizzile?

[exxtracool]

You're the one who is delusional. Yeh I work in engineering... wtf do you expect chit for brains.

This was with Russia that was provoked by the US is primarily harming Europe.

Although i have a suspicion the US may end getting severely harmed by this... day by day it seems that China is reducing the dayloght between the two nations.

“No you”


Lmao. Okay iranbrah, whatever you say.

[chalup]

He lives in Canada. Americans (and Canadians, they're basically the same) couldn't give a phuck what happens to Europe. Europe is phucked.

The UK needs a slap ion the face, the US has compeltely phucked us and we're signing a deal to start a submarine war with China... we're like the battered wife who says he still loves us.

This is true. Literally zero fuks about what happens to EU. I will say they are smart enough to not get fukked tho. And if I had to bet money on EU or Iran faltering, guess who I'm betting on?

[DSTEE]

Lawmakers in Israel wanted to make politicians above the law and now there are huge protests going.

Vatnigs can't fanthom why others don't bow down for their 5'2 overlords

[memcop]

Lawmakers in Israel wanted to make politicians above the law and now there are huge protests going.

Vatnigs can't fanthom why others don't bow down for their 5'2 overlords

Why are you so racist? Srs?

[Kane_89]

Leaked FSB Report: Putin plotted "total cleansing" of Ukraine, concentration camps

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...us/ar-AA196dxQ

"According to leaked documents, Russian President Vladimir Putin plotted a "total cleansing" of Ukraine with house-to-house terror and civilians marching to concentration camps.
Emails from Russia's Federal Security Service (FSB) reveal orders "from the very top" to take Ukrainian citizens and march them to their deaths, the Sun reported on Saturday.

Putin allegedly wants to carry out the "total cleansing" so that Russia "could install any government in Kyiv." The emails also mention how Putin would deal with Ukrainian citizens who resisted Russian forces. Actions reportedly include reducing “massive protests down to local skirmishes, and to cause severe injuries to individual protesters,” and detaining people "in their homes at night during curfew" and transferring them "to Russian territories - concentration camps and worse."

"Its not worth it, Ukrainians should just surrender"...they said

"Putin only wants peace."...they said.

[memcop]

This is true. Literally zero fuks about what happens to EU. I will say they are smart enough to not get fukked tho. And if I had to bet money on EU or Iran faltering, guess who I'm betting on?

Iran is about as ground down as it can be in reality. It's way out is through an alliance with a growing Russia and China.

Europe is in a bad way and it's best way out is to pay Russia for fuel which would skyrocket the Russian economy. Russia has already recouped their lost sales to the global south. It would double prewar exports.

The only way out is to subsidize American fuel sales to keep Europe subordinate to the US in the long run.

It's all a self inflicted and unnecessary mess. None of this went as it was expected.

[Zelensky]

Leaked FSB Report: Putin plotted "total cleansing" of Ukraine, concentration camps

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...us/ar-AA196dxQ



"Its not worth it, Ukrainians should just surrender"...they said

"Putin only wants peace."...they said.

"Muh leaked emails"

LMFAO sounds legit, I'm sure he was planning on killing 6 gorillion of them, huh?

I swear, the more fantastical the propaganda gets the more the NPCs latch on.

[Kane_89]

"Muh leaked emails"

LMFAO sounds legit, I'm sure he was planning on killing 6 gorillion of them, huh?

I swear, the more fantastical the propaganda gets the more the NPCs latch on.

"He only wants peace" LOL

[memcop]

Leaked FSB Report: Putin plotted "total cleansing" of Ukraine, concentration camps

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...us/ar-AA196dxQ



"Its not worth it, Ukrainians should just surrender"...they said

"Putin only wants peace."...they said.

Seems legit.

Can you point out to me on a map where the current camps are since Russia has seized a good bit of Ukraine so far?

I'll need pictures and statements too. It seems to be your threshold. Thanks in advance.

[Kane_89]

Seems legit.

Can you point out to me on a map where the current camps are since Russia has seized a good bit of Ukraine so far?

I'll need pictures and statements too. It seems to be your threshold. Thanks in advance.

Show me in the link where it says Putin currently has camps.

Maybe I missed it.

[DSTEE]

Leaked FSB Report: Putin plotted "total cleansing" of Ukraine, concentration camps

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...us/ar-AA196dxQ



"Its not worth it, Ukrainians should just surrender"...they said

"Putin only wants peace."...they said.

russians have been doing it for hundreds of years.
https://mobile.twitter.com/2Russopho...36837136687109

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https://mobile.twitter.com/2Russopho...36982356058114

Why are you so racist? Srs?

Do you have russian heritage by any chance? Srs?

[yabbayabba]

Holy ****...the retard crew is really grasping at straws now. Couple of you are really gunning to take the tile of king retard from coward chalupa.