Russia vs Ukraine Thread VIII- Spring Thaw Time to Withdraw

[oreogasm]

Uranium 238 does not "poison land for a million years". It is a toxic heavy metal and very VERY mildly radioactive, but it won't do chit to the land. The half life of U238 is like 4.5 billion years. That means it barely decays. There's no long term damage to anyone.

You are thinking that because it has a long hl, it is less safe. It's the opposite. Something with a short half life is incresibly dangerous to be around. And something with a medium half life will leave radioactive residue over a long term. U238's half life is long enough that decays are relatively infrequent. The decay chain also produces alpha particles, which are not as deadly as beta particles generally.

It's honestly not a whole lot worse than huge amounts of lead and fuel being dumped into the environment.

Depleted uranium may pose a risk to both soldiers and local civilian populations. When ammunition made from depleted uranium strikes a target, the uranium turns into dust that is inhaled by soldiers near the explosion site. The wind then carries dust to surrounding areas, polluting local water and agriculture.

Pieces of old armor and ammunition also pose a threat, particularly to local children playing on tanks and other military hardware made from depleted uranium. “The kids were playing on the tanks… and they were collecting the bullets,” explained Souad Al-Azzawi, an associate professor of environmental engineering at the Canadian University Dubai and former director of the doctoral program in environmental engineering at the University of Baghdad. “For some of the people, those bullets stayed in their houses for years. It was a disaster.”

That being said, there remains a strong possibility that depleted uranium has negative consequences on civilians. After all, depleted uranium is carcinogenic, and there is evidence to suggest that it may also impact hormones. A paper from the World Health Organization (WHO) reports that someone who inhales small, insoluble uranium particles may experience lung damage or lung cancer due to radiation. Depleted uranium may also lead to poor kidney functioning.

Although the research process is difficult, scholars have still been working to see if there is a link between depleted uranium and community health near conflict zones. Researcher Al-Azzawi cites studies showing that children’s leukemia cases increased by 60 percent between 1990 and 1997 and that birth defects tripled between 1990 and 1998 in Basra, Iraq. Basra experienced a stage of US bombings in response to the 1990 invasion of Kuwait. Al-Azzawi suggests that depleted uranium used during such conflicts is responsible for the rise in cancer and birth defects in the area.

https://hir.harvard.edu/depleted-ura...e-middle-east/

https://www.foreignpolicyjournal.com...ldren-in-iraq/

Can you STFU now ?

[Kane_89]

Terrorist state th eUnited States occupying a portion of Syria (Al Tanf) performed airstrike sagianst the Syrain government.

Would lvoe to hear the Ukranians and American boot lickers explain how they don't condemn the US for their occupation in Syria.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle...ay-2023-03-23/

BEIRUT/RIYADH, March 23 (Reuters) - Syria and Saudi Arabia have agreed to reopen their embassies after cutting diplomatic ties more than a decade ago, three sources with knowledge of the matter said, a step that would mark a leap forward in Damascus's return to the Arab fold.

Contacts between Riyadh and Damascus had gathered momentum following a landmark agreement to re-establish ties between Saudi Arabia and Iran, a key ally of President Bashar al-Assad, a regional source aligned with Damascus said.


Saudi and Syria to reconvene international relations in a rebuke to the Terrorist state of the United States.

Your country is literally run by actual Islamic terrorists lol

[PimpinisEasy]

Your country is literally run by actual Islamic terrorists lol

Perhaps through the distorted Lens of an American who's brain has been shrivelled by lead water pipes and toxic food.

The reality is: The behaviour of the US is becoming more and more erratic; so much so that a large portion of the world considers you a rogue state.

The US appears to be struggling with the notion that it is being overtaken by China.

We are entering a period of a Thucydides trap. This is an apparent tendency towards war when an emerging power threatens to displace an existing great power.

The US is being displaced and crazy Americans are provoking war everywhere they can. Fortunately Russia will de-fang you before you can cause anymore chaos.

[Kane_89]

Perhaps through the distorted Lens of an American who's brain has been shrivelled by lead water pipes and toxic food.

The reality is: The behaviour of the US is becoming more and more erratic; so much so that a large portion of the world considers you a rogue state.

The US appears to be struggling with the notion that it is being overtaken by China.

We are entering a period of a Thucydides trap. This is an apparent tendency towards war when an emerging power threatens to displace an existing great power.

The US is being displaced and crazy Americans are provoking war everywhere they can. Fortunately Russia will de-fang you before you can cause anymore chaos.

Still didnt address your country being ran by Islamic terrorists.

[ghostfacedup]

Your country is literally run by actual Islamic terrorists lol

not an argument.

[devopsengineer]

It's not great, but I guarantee you it is not as terrible as people are making it sound. People hear Uranium and freak out without realizing how U238 is really nbd. Honestly, the fuel runoff and disrupted infrastructure is more likely to cause problems and contaminate things.

Chemical consequences of heavy metal poisoning in water is more serious than the radioactive aspects of nuclear decay here.

I implore everyone here to take a breath and look up the half life of U238.

Uranum is heavy metal. And it is very poisounus. Half life means it will stay there for milions of years.

If you think U238 is soo good, eat some.

[PimpinisEasy]

Still didnt address your country being ran by Islamic terrorists.

Whne you look at a Mosque, do you wonder why a terrorist training centre is allowed to be set up in the free-est country in the world?

[Kane_89]

not an argument.

I dont take American hating Islamic terrorist seriously, sorry brother.

[memcop]

lol @ this bot still spamming his stale Kremlin videos with a bunch of red arrows in it. This time the thumbnail has a whopping 12 arrows because the last one only had 6 and nothing happened, so I guess the gloves are definitely off and vatniks really mean business now.

Surely.

"I don't feel so good..." line is old af too now, you said it at least a hundred times already with nothing to show for it.

Try a thumbnail with 20 arrows next time, maybe Bakhmut will fall then. With 500 arrows you might even have a chance to finally take Kiev in 48 hours.

Its really kinda sad at this point.

If you understood how tactically unsound pouring troops into the place after November was you'd care. But as usual and without regard for anyone else's life or well being, tens of thousands of Ukrainians are dead and dying from the foolish political decision to try to hold it. The remaining forces there are literally stuck and will either die or be captured. Wagner is a slow moving artillery wave on the defensive positions, taking little casualties. The force is in no hurry to take even a few feet. It is an impossible effort by Ukraine when they are so outmatched.

I'll never understand the cold bloodedness of some of you regarding men actually doing the fighting.

In all seriousness, do you have to be told by your media in order to get an understanding of the happenings on the battlefield?

I believe none.

[PimpinisEasy]

I dont take American hating Islamic terrorist seriously, sorry brother.

You can say whyatever retarded American chit you want. The US is the emporer in no clothes and the whole world is truning against you.

I am not Islamic or a terrorist. You country is the terrorist... you bombed nordstream, you bombed Syria & your women and food are a terror attack on the senses.

[Stizzel]

lol @ this bot still spamming his stale Kremlin videos with a bunch of red arrows in it. This time the thumbnail has a whopping 12 arrows because the last one only had 6 and nothing happened, so I guess the gloves are definitely off and vatniks really mean business now.

Surely.

"I don't feel so good..." line is old af too now, you said it at least a hundred times already with nothing to show for it.

Try a thumbnail with 20 arrows next time, maybe Bakhmut will fall then. With 500 arrows you might even have a chance to finally take Kiev in 48 hours.

ThE aArOwS aRe FaKe

[Kane_89]

If you understood how tactically unsound pouring troops into the place after November was you'd care. But as usual and without regard for anyone else's life or well being, tens of thousands of Ukrainians are dead and dying from the foolish political decision to try to hold it. The remaining forces there are literally stuck and will either die or be captured. Wagner is a slow moving artillery wave on the defensive positions, taking little casualties. The force is in no hurry to take even a few feet. It is an impossible effort by Ukraine when they are so outmatched.

I'll never understand the cold bloodedness of some of you regarding men actually doing the fighting.

In all seriousness, do you have to be told by your media in order to get an understanding of the happenings on the battlefield?

I believe none.

They want to stay in Bakhmut because they see it as advantageous for them, if they didnt, they wouldve withdrawn already.

Could you link ONE post of yours where you were proven to be correct?

Respectfully, I cant take any of your predictions seriously because literally all of them have been horrendously wrong.

[SlavaUkrain]

If you understood how tactically unsound pouring troops into the place after November was you'd care. But as usual and without regard for anyone else's life or well being, tens of thousands of Ukrainians are dead and dying from the foolish political decision to try to hold it. The remaining forces there are literally stuck and will either die or be captured. Wagner is a slow moving artillery wave on the defensive positions, taking little casualties. The force is in no hurry to take even a few feet. It is an impossible effort by Ukraine when they are so outmatched.

I'll never understand the cold bloodedness of some of you regarding men actually doing the fighting.

In all seriousness, do you have to be told by your media in order to get an understanding of the happenings on the battlefield?

I believe none.

How does it feel to be wrong all the time?

[Stizzel]

They want to stay in Bakhmut because they see it as advantageous for them, if they didnt, they wouldve withdrawn already.

Could you link ONE post of yours where you were proven to be correct?

Respectfully, I cant take any of your predictions seriously because literally all of them have been horrendously wrong.

They can't hold it though. Right now it's of no use to either side. Only a matter of time before Russia controls it fully. All of the men dying to delay that date could be used to form the next defensive line, but now they're just fertilizing the soil. Very sad, to me at least. I know you chicken hawk nazi lovers give no fuks about their lives.

[PimpinisEasy]

How does it feel to be wrong all the time?

That's a bit rich coming from you.

Didn't all you Ukraine bootlickers laugh about Energy prices not imapcting Europe... and now multiple banks are collapsing. Don't you ever feel embarrassed?

[Kane_89]

They can't hold it though. Right now it's of no use to either side. Only a matter of time before Russia controls it fully. All of the men dying to delay that date could be used to form the next defensive line, but now they're just fertilizing the soil. Very sad, to me at least. I know you chicken hawk nazi lovers give no fuks about their lives.

Why do you care? and why is it sad to you? Its not your country

The defenders of Bakhmut arent sad, theyre angry and ready to take their country back.

[memcop]

damn @ this combat footage.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3

Respect to the men fighting this war and shame on the men making them fight it.

[Stizzel]

Why do you care? Its not your country

Because if it wasn't for the people representing me and involving the money they stole from me, these Ukrainians would still be alive

[jackamo2887]

Oh no, only 2 more weeks until bahkmut falls and Russia can claim the war is won!

[dabbmw2002]

Why do you care? and why is it sad to you? Its not your country

The defenders of Bakhmut arent sad, theyre angry and ready to take their country back.

So now you speak for the defenders of Bakhmut and know their emotional state?

Big talk from your lazy boy in the united states.

[yabbayabba]

Russia takes more of Bakhmut every day and now Hot Pants says there won't be a counter offensive unless they get more weapons. Lots of Ukie retards dying for a city that "doesn't matter"...and the retard crew is totally fine with this.

[memcop]

They want to stay in Bakhmut because they see it as advantageous for them, if they didnt, they wouldve withdrawn already.

Could you link ONE post of yours where you were proven to be correct?

Respectfully, I cant take any of your predictions seriously because literally all of them have been horrendously wrong.

Bakhmut is done and has been done for weeks. Slamming bodies into it with no effect isn't up to me, I can only judge when it's tactically over.

Feel free to go back and read the very same statement regarding my assessment letting you know when it was unwinnable for Ukraine.

Your impatience is not my issue, it's yours. Feel free to tell us they're winning there or have a chance of winning there. I'll wait...

[exxtracool]

That's a bit rich coming from you.

Didn't all you Ukraine bootlickers laugh about Energy prices not imapcting Europe... and now multiple banks are collapsing. Don't you ever feel embarrassed?

Damn first europe freezes to death and now their banking system collapses. Ruff times for the west.

All hail emperor putin. Allamduhlilah.

[Kane_89]

So now you speak for the defenders of Bakhmut and know their emotional state?

Big talk from your lazy boy in the united states.

I dont see any Ukrainians complaining about fighting in Bakhmut. Do you? Post the evidence

[Kane_89]

Bakhmut is done and has been done for weeks. Slamming bodies into it with no effect isn't up to me, I can only judge when it's tactically over.

Feel free to go back and read the very same statement regarding my assessment letting you know when it was unwinnable for Ukraine.

Your impatience is not my issue, it's yours. Feel free to tell us they're winning there or have a chance of winning there. I'll wait...

No, not going back and reading your wrong assessments.

I want you to post your correct assessments...If there are any.

[exxtracool]

Bakhmut is done and has been done for weeks. Slamming bodies into it with no effect isn't up to me, I can only judge when it's tactically over.

Feel free to go back and read the very same statement regarding my assessment letting you know when it was unwinnable for Ukraine.

Your impatience is not my issue, it's yours. Feel free to tell us they're winning there or have a chance of winning there. I'll wait...

Ya this is probably right. Idk why they keep fighting for bakhmut, im sure they have thejr reasons. Looks doomed af though from what i can gather, which to be fair isnt much.

[memcop]

Russia takes more of Bakhmut every day and now Hot Pants says there won't be a counter offensive unless they get more weapons. Lots of Ukie retards dying for a city that "doesn't matter"...and the retard crew is totally fine with this.

There's a counter offensive underway in the Krasna Hora direction. It's the only tactical avenue. It has a chance of working but is has to ramp up faster than it's going now. The men and equipment are there but there may not be enough time to stage enough strength and attack.

I'm waiting to see if VDV/Cossacks are enough or the 163 &/or the 102 get moved up.

[Barteh]

Damn first europe freezes to death and now their banking system collapses. Ruff times for the west.

All hail emperor putin. Allamduhlilah.

Are we pretending Europe isn't fukked? My country literally has 1,5 million people right now who cannot survive without getting food handouts from the government or charity. My parents' gas bill rose in 1 year from 100 euros a month to 1200 during last winter. Fukkin LMAO if you're pretending everybody is doing fine and Europe is feeling nothing from this whole gas crisis and dumb war.

[exxtracool]

Are we pretending Europe isn't fukked? My country literally has 1,5 million people right now who cannot survive without getting food handouts from the government or charity. My parents' gas bill rose in 1 year from 100 euros a month to 1200 during last winter. Fukkin LMAO if you're pretending everybody is doing fine and Europe is feeling nothing from this whole gas crisis and dumb war.

Terrible argument. First, there has never been a time when “everybody is doing fine”, second its europes own fault for becoming overly dependent on a singular source for somethng as crucial as energy in place of promoting its own production.

Whos fault is it that europe decided to “go green bro” and take a **** on its own energy sectors?

Whos fault is it the partner europe chose to become dependent on was a known ticking time bomb? How long was europe warned about precisely this?



Finally, these predictions of western collapse are getting old af. Relax. Go ride your bike back to your canal boathouse or whatever you guys do in the netherlands, everything will be fine. Europe has been through much much worse than this.

[memcop]

Ya this is probably right. Idk why they keep fighting for bakhmut, im sure they have thejr reasons. Looks doomed af though from what i can gather, which to be fair isnt much.

There was a line in the sand drawn over the last 8 years. Bakhmut was Ukraine's largest city closest to the fighting east of that line. West of there, on the Donbas militia side you have Donetsk City. Both were extremely fortified.

Behind Bakhmut to the east you have much the smaller towns of Chasiv Yar, Kramatorsk, and Sloviansk where the military headquarters/garrison resides.

After Chasiv Yar there is no staging node for combat. Kramatorsk and Sloviansk will likely be attacked simultaneously if not first by the Lyman direction if it breaks first. There only long open roads and small towns behind it which opens up the remainder of the oblast and the next all the way to the Dnieper River and on to Kiev. It's disastrous if Russia intends to go that far.

"We understand that after Bakhmut they could go further. They could go to Kramatorsk, they could go to Sloviansk, it would be open road for the Russians after Bakhmut to other towns in Ukraine, in the Donetsk direction," -Zelensky

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ntl/index.html


I think I wrote about this a while ago but anyone can say it's not strategic all day long but for Ukraine it is tactical death and may signal the end of the war.