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06-10-2023, 09:13 AM #7741
Last edited by PimpinisEasy; 06-10-2023 at 09:25 AM.
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06-10-2023, 09:22 AM #7742
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06-10-2023, 09:40 AM #7743
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06-10-2023, 09:50 AM #7744
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06-10-2023, 09:52 AM #7745
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06-10-2023, 09:52 AM #7746
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06-10-2023, 09:54 AM #7747Tsar Ivan IV Grozny:
“And if you, having a dog's mouth, want to bark for fun—that's your custom as a serf: it is an honor to you, but it is disgrace for us to think of you, let alone to snarl back at you, and there is naught worse in this world than to bark along with you, and if you want to bark, find yourself a serf like you, and bark with him."
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06-10-2023, 10:09 AM #7748
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The Ukraine has missiles that do get through defense and hit targets. The question is who was killed and what equipment did it destroy? How will it hamper the war effort? We know from the new year's eve attack that Russia is not concentrating large amounts of people in easily identifiable buildings to be targeted. That being said Russians will still be killed in missile strikes. It's war and Ukraine will have their successes.
That is why I've said repeatedly that I dont get excited over one attack by either side. You look at the big picture at what's going on.
Here the facts by ISW
Russia is behaving doctrinally and disciplined.
The command structure is more cohesive.
Fixed wing and rotary aircraft are operating at a high level on the front lines.
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I will add these as well.
Russian missile and artillery production can and will continue to support the war effort and out paces the west.
Russia didn't throw the newly mobilized right to the front line and did take time to train them and put them in the rear to build defenses.
Russian tactics while unsexy are productive, specifically the choices to withdraw from Kherson and not defend certain lines. I remember being one of the people beating up the Russian defense ministry but time has shown them to have been correct. This is why it's good to have actual battlefield commanders making decisions, not politicians or people who are operating on a time line.Cleavon Goldstein
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06-10-2023, 10:54 AM #7749
Vatniks: "It took Russia 10 months to capture some random small town and they had thousands of vehicles destroyed (or stolen by tractors) since the start of the war, but I see no problem with that!"
Also vatniks: "OMFG LMAO guys I got like one video of a few Ukrainian vehicles getting hit so it must mean they are screwed. Counteroffensive started less than a week ago but it's all over for them already!"
Orcs said they will take Kiev in "48 hours" about 472 days ago, but here they are celebrating surviving a few Ukrainian offensive operations in the east..... sure doesn't sound like a badass 2nd Best Army in the World that they pretend to be.
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06-10-2023, 10:55 AM #7750
Robotyne liberated?
"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
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06-10-2023, 11:03 AM #7751
Gen. Milley says Kiev could fall within 72 hours if Russia decides to invade Ukraine
Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Mark Milley told lawmakers that Kiev could fall within 72 hours if a full-scale Russian invasion of Ukraine takes place
https://www.foxnews.com/us/gen-mille...kraine-sources
Yall keep repeating the same thing over and over ITT. Sad
If not for U.S./NATO support, this would've already been over. And it was almost over back in April 2022, until Boris Johnson flew to Kiev and ended the peace negotiations.Tsar Ivan IV Grozny:
“And if you, having a dog's mouth, want to bark for fun—that's your custom as a serf: it is an honor to you, but it is disgrace for us to think of you, let alone to snarl back at you, and there is naught worse in this world than to bark along with you, and if you want to bark, find yourself a serf like you, and bark with him."
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06-10-2023, 11:13 AM #7752
Russias 291st regiment has held their line despite ukraine throwing everything they have at them
Official misc attaché to the Kremlin
Наше дело правое.
Враг будет разбит.
Победа будет за нами!
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06-10-2023, 12:06 PM #7753
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06-10-2023, 12:18 PM #7754
What's stopping NATO from arranging 500 tanks, 100's of fighter jets, bombers and lots of artillery, AFV, and all the juicy stuff to bring Putin down once and for all?
I mean cmon all you need is one big push from the entire NATO is all that's needed to capture Moscow to Vladivostok...Right?
The slow inconsistent approach is only destroying Ukraine further every day lol
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06-10-2023, 12:20 PM #7755
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06-10-2023, 12:31 PM #7756
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Oh it's even worse than that boyo, because the photos are supporting the stated Ukranian losses as claimed by Russia.
Love how a thorough defeat is suddenly not worthy of discussion to you NAFO bots.
This is the most egregious and hilarious cope of this entire debate LOL
Ukrainians are getting blown to bits within days of deployment and all you dopes can say is "muh 2 more weekz tho!" Fukin pathetic.ωσяℓ∂ тяανєℓєя ȼяєω
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06-10-2023, 12:32 PM #7757
Solemnly, but observing security measures in the zone of active hostilities, right at the front line, awards were presented to servicemen who distinguished themselves in repelling the enemy offensive in the South Donetsk direction.
So, for the courage and heroism shown in battles, the commander of the attack aircraft company, Captain Andrey Burtaev, was awarded the Order of Courage.
Soldiers of the 155th Marine Brigade of the Russian Pacific Fleet also received awards. They were given badges of the guards. For the successful completion of combat missions in the special operation zone, the brigade was awarded the title of Guards. The badges were presented at different parts of the line of contact, where the guards repel the attacks of Ukrainian nationalists.Official misc attaché to the Kremlin
Наше дело правое.
Враг будет разбит.
Победа будет за нами!
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06-10-2023, 12:33 PM #7758
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What happens when your enemy has thousands of tanks, thousands of aircraft, thousands of infantry fighting vehicles, integrated air defense, layered defense lines, and endless artillery? Slow, fast, doesn't matter. Slow, you are overpowered, fast, you extend your lines and face enemy on three sides. War is logistics. Russia understands this and has planned the last several months for a long grinding war that will eventually deplete Ukraine.
Cleavon Goldstein
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06-10-2023, 12:38 PM #7759
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06-10-2023, 12:42 PM #7760
The Ka-52 "Alligator" helicopter set a record for repelling missiles in the NVO zone. In total, 18 anti-aircraft missiles were reflected in one sortie.
The Russian attack helicopter Ka-52 repelled a record number of anti-aircraft missiles during a flight with the help of the Vitebsk complex.
"Today, the record for reflected missiles of portable anti-aircraft missile systems is 18 pieces. One of the Russian Ka-52s was able to deflect such a number during a sortie due to the Vitebsk airborne defense system. That is why helicopter pilots call the complex " Vitebsk" - "the eggs of life". The external equipment of the complex, protruding from the body of the helicopter, looks like bird eggs, and the complex itself regularly saves the lives of army aviation pilots, whom the enemy constantly fires from MANPADS. The helicopter returned to the base without damage" - said the source of the agency.
You mean i cant put a phalanx on a mountain and use the +3 defense bonus to destroy a tank?Official misc attaché to the Kremlin
Наше дело правое.
Враг будет разбит.
Победа будет за нами!
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06-10-2023, 12:44 PM #7761
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06-10-2023, 12:47 PM #7762
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If Ukraine cant gain real territory and substantively damage Russian forces after months of training and preparing for this offensive, how are they going to win when Russia still has untapped manpower and a military industrial complex firing on all cylinders churning out missiles and artillery? What else can the West send? Nobody on the Ukraine side wants to logistics and manpower.Cleavon Goldstein
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06-10-2023, 12:51 PM #7763
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Thank you Suave for the kinds rep!
Last edited by dabbmw2002; 06-10-2023 at 01:27 PM.
Cleavon Goldstein
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06-10-2023, 12:57 PM #7764
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06-10-2023, 01:46 PM #7765
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06-10-2023, 02:03 PM #7766
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06-10-2023, 02:04 PM #7767
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06-10-2023, 02:13 PM #7768
Awkward that you mention this. Srs
It's gray zone and ahead of the Russian line. They're probably stuck there tbh.
Russia rolled out a new weapon that mines behind Ukrainians as they advance, leaving the stuck or disabled as they rotate in and out. While stuck and wounded from the new mines, Russia replaces mines that Ukrainians cleared towards Russian held territory.
Pretty vicious and explains the trouble advancing.
Also lol at you Bakhmut claim that ukraine is in the city. Calm down and let the map settle and evaluate your sources. You may want to consider Russian sources as they **** all over the MOD when they fail and map in real time.Homerotic Modulator, Envious of Idiocy
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06-10-2023, 03:50 PM #7769
Damn... have to take an L on this one. Appears we have been duped by AI or photoshop
https://files.catbox.moe/mdtji9.mp4
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06-10-2023, 04:27 PM #7770
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