izzy vs alex who u got

[ninetynine8]

i think izzy takes it as long as he tries to fight him instead of surviving. He was doing great early but got out worked with leg kicks which led to the tko

izzy by tko r2

[iloveus]

[Gainzzz]

It's crazy how Izzy has won probably 90% of the 3 fights combined but is 0-3. I can't see him letting it slip for a 4th time. I think he will look for takedowns once he feels Alex start to slow down around the 3rd/4th.

[ninetynine8]

It's crazy how Izzy has won probably 90% of the 3 fights combined but is 0-3. I can't see him letting it slip for a 4th time. I think he will look for takedowns once he feels Alex start to slow down around the 3rd/4th.

izzy's unironically extremely unlucky when they fight


I see Izzy straight up knocking him out. Alex biggest advantage over him isn't power like people say, it's his durability. Izzys timing makes up for the power gap, but he's much less durable than Alex. I think he should try to take him away early, but stay methodical, not go crazy swinging like he did in the second kickboxing fight.


as for takedowns, i'm not sure about that. Izzy has good ground control when he's in the position but actually getting a takedown against Alex is going to be very difficult. iirc izzy only ended up on top because Alex went for a poor trip and was reversed on the way down. It'd be cool to see though

[MiscValuePlayer]

Alex

History is gonna repeat itself probably

0-4

[ninetynine8]

Alex

History is gonna repeat itself probably

0-4

def not a bad pick. I just can't count Izzy out by way of how the fights actually go. The first fight for example was a decis that could have gone either way, 2nd fight izzy was teeing off, alex saved by ref counting way too late, then izzy gets carried away and gets ktfo

3rd fight alex saved by the bell, izzy winning whole fight gets koed last round



so yeah not a bad pick since he always manages to win but i'm still picking izzy

[Barteh]

Pereira is gonna win. The only reason Izzy was up on the scorecards is because Pereira didn't wanna gas out so he didn't go that hard. It was visible at the start of the 5th round that Pereira went into a higher gear. Now that he's knocked him out twice I think he might actually go into a higher gear earlier in the next fight because he knows he can knock him out. This time he will finish him even earlier.

[ninetynine8]

The only reason Izzy was up on the scorecards is because Pereira didn't wanna gas out so he didn't go that hard.

strongly disagree... he looked the exact same. He hurt izzys leg with a check and then backed him into the cage, izzy didn't have the mobility to escape at that point and the fights over. Until the check they were both clinched against the cage so not sure where you're getting that from

[Schnitzl]

strongly disagree... he looked the exact same. He hurt izzys leg with a check and then backed him into the cage, izzy didn't have the mobility to escape at that point and the fights over. Until the check they were both clinched against the cage so not sure where you're getting that from

I think this was a big issue in the first fight. He wasn't circling off the cage at all which was weird to see. Just standing in front of a world class kickboxer is never a good idea. Hopefully he's injury free and made some adjustments because let's be honest, poatan is a bit one dimensional (granted so is Izzy). I'll go with we'll see what happens option.

[Barteh]

strongly disagree... he looked the exact same. He hurt izzys leg with a check and then backed him into the cage, izzy didn't have the mobility to escape at that point and the fights over. Until the check they were both clinched against the cage so not sure where you're getting that from

I distinctly remember him coming out stronger and at a higher pace at the start of the 5th round. But I'm not the kind of guy to rewatch fights for analysis so who knows. I'm not going back to confirm whether I'm right or wrong.

[akmerle]

Tough fight to call. Alex is a horrible matchup for Izzy. He is long / tall, fights collected / patient, can take massive punishment, and hits like a truck.

Is crazy to watch how low Alex keeps his hands, how he throws relatively telegraphed shots, doesn’t use much lateral movement, and is fine to just trade hammers.

With how dynamic and smart Izzy is, I think he pencils out as taking it…… but after watching Leon vs. Usman and how former champs are 3-12 in immediate rematches, numbers sure don’t make it likely.

[mot1ve]

Kinda sucked to see Izzy take that last L. But Pereira has so much on his side to win this.. with that said, def not a fight I would bet on.

[TrueTruth]

Hope Alex makes it 0-4 against the Rundesanya ****g0tbender. Judges shouldn't be licking ****g0t's balls anymore since he's a challenger now and has no excuse to stay passive for 25 minutes and milking decisions. Before it was "waahhh the challenger must show more activity" excuses, well the tables have turned now bitch.

Good luck calling yourself one of the GOATS when you have a 0-4 record against a single opponent lol. I don't think it'll ever happened before in MMA, it will be biblical.

[sooby]

I think Alex beats him. He's basically the only guy with the size, power, reach to pressure Izzy and back him against the cage. Alex also has a hell of a chin too. These things altogether make this a bad matchup for Izzy.

Izzy can certainly knock him out, BUT. Ironically, if Adesanya improves his grappling and uses a more grappling heavy gameplan, and Alex doesn't improve, Izzy can win. Even threatening takedowns and grappling exchanges can help dampen Alex's striking threat.

[skinnyfat88]

I think this was a big issue in the first fight. He wasn't circling off the cage at all which was weird to see. Just standing in front of a world class kickboxer is never a good idea. Hopefully he's injury free and made some adjustments because let's be honest, poatan is a bit one dimensional (granted so is Izzy). I'll go with we'll see what happens option.

I recall thinking the same thing. Alex did his damage when Izzy stood flat-footed with his back against the cage and went into a defensive shell or looked for a counter from that position.
I don't understand high level MMA footwork et al but it appeared to me he was way too willing to accept that position. He did land some decent counters from there but he wins the fight in the middle of the cage 80% of the time and needs to stay there.

[nn586]

I don't see him beating Alex.

i think Alex will reign for quite a while, he's a monster

[KingRexxxy]

I don't see him beating Alex.

i think Alex will reign for quite a while, he's a monster

Until he fights a wrestler. I think he beats Izzy and then probably moves up. This is a tough weight cut for him and he probably matches up better against the guys at 205 than he does at 185.

[sooby]

I don't see him beating Alex.

i think Alex will reign for quite a while, he's a monster

I could see Vettori beating him, Whittaker as well.

[Gainzzz]

I said it before, I think Alex moves up no matter what after this fight. His cut to 185 must be disgusting. He would actually be one of the bigger 205ers which is hilarious. If he moves up as champ, they would probably do the Hill fight straight away. That's a good fight for him and also a great storyline (avenging Glover). He would have serious problems against the likes of Ankalaev and Jan but MMA is all about styles and timing. He has a legit shot at becoming champ champ.

[iloveus]

I said it before, I think Alex moves up no matter what after this fight. His cut to 185 must be disgusting. He would actually be one of the bigger 205ers which is hilarious. If he moves up as champ, they would probably do the Hill fight straight away. That's a good fight for him and also a great storyline (avenging Glover). He would have serious problems against the likes of Ankalaev and Jan but MMA is all about styles and timing. He has a legit shot at becoming champ champ.

I think Alex will also dominate light heavyweight

[q0c0p]

Wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happened. Izzy leading the fight the entire time then gets k.o at the end lol. Honestly if he gets an early lead again. He needs to put on his singlet and start wrastlefuking to avoid getting k.o.

[ninetynine8]

bump

[ninetynine8]

crickets huh... but not when u get it wrong


pretty impressed i saw the gameplan they did. It makes perfect sense when you think about it. Izzy SHOULD try to knock him out, he's less durable and has just as much chance as getting it done as Alex does if not more. Going for the decis isn't wise

[nn586]

I don't see him beating Alex.

i think Alex will reign for quite a while, he's a monster

looks like i was wrong but im glad it was done in that fashion. that was spectacular. watched it 100 times

im ok being wrong lol

[Gizzyhardcore]

crickets huh... but not when u get it wrong


pretty impressed i saw the gameplan they did. It makes perfect sense when you think about it. Izzy SHOULD try to knock him out, he's less durable and has just as much chance as getting it done as Alex does if not more. Going for the decis isn't wise

Nice picks, I just wish the general betting public was as dumb as the misc or sherdog and moved the betting volume to Alex. Even though Izzy was "0-3" it was still obvious to everyone that Izzy was better, and hence he was the favourite

If we had more dumb bets going on Alex, Izzy would have moved to underdog and we would have got a much larger payout when he won!

[sooby]

Nice picks, I just wish the general betting public was as dumb as the misc or sherdog and moved the betting volume to Alex. Even though Izzy was "0-3" it was still obvious to everyone that Izzy was better, and hence he was the favourite

If we had more dumb bets going on Alex, Izzy would have moved to underdog and we would have got a much larger payout when he won!

it's really a pick em. both capable of knocking each other out. both are very technical kickboxers.

Alex fought the perfect fight up until he didn't.