I was recently watching a pod cast on Layne Nortons training and how it had evolved. His experience seemed similar to mine. I’ve always gone by ability to complete the work outs. After a layoff I was small and weak and could breeze through full body 3-4 times per week. As time went on I wasn’t really able to survive the workouts anymore and hated heavy light type training. Moved to an upper lower for better energy management and to maintain a reasonable non bro frequency. After a few years of getting even stronger naturally I found myself being in the gym forever on the upper days. I decided to switch to more of a legs push pull split for shorter, better quality workouts. Similar to laynes phat.
Do you have a similar experience? I generally notice that there is really no rhyme or reason to how the average gym goer sets up his training. It might as well be random. Ie chest day, arms day, shoulder day, back day, maybe legs while moving pretty light weights.
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02-07-2023, 12:13 PM #1
How has your training evolved over your lifting career?
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02-07-2023, 12:23 PM #2
I’ve went through so many phases.
From powerlifting is the GOAT, to calisthenics is the best, to machines are ok, to mostly machine based “optimal”hypertrophy, now back to mostly free weight with some machine and jumps.
Figured I’m never gonna be a bodybuilder or competitive anything so why train like one? I just want to be well rounded and thicker than a brick sh!thouse and athletic-ish.
IDC what “optimal” is according to instafluencers, I go off what works and what has worked for me and I slowly add weight over a period of time.
There isn’t anything new to this training stuff and what has worked for millions to put in size and strength isn’t something you can learn just by looking at the “science”. You just gotta go pick up heavy sh!t.Age: 30
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02-07-2023, 12:32 PM #3
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02-09-2023, 04:39 PM #4
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I went from powerlifting/powerbuilding is the end-all-be-all to kettlebells and bodyweight stuff after recovering a shoulder injury now to a more volume based bodybuilding approach.
I used to do upper/lowers then moved to splits then to fullbodies now doing bro splits (Mountain Dog Style/FST-7 Inspired).
As Dave Tate said, I train how I want now, even if its not necessarily "optimal" but Im consistently gaining, enjoying my training, and remaining injury free.https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=180003183&p=1635918623#post1635918623
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"225, 315, 405 whatever. Yeah these benchmark digits come to mean a lot to us, the few warriors in this arena. They are, however, just numbers. I'm guilty of that sh*t too, waiting for somebody to powder my nuts cuz I did 20 reps of whatever the **** on the bench. Big f*king deal. It is all relative." G Diesel
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02-09-2023, 08:05 PM #5
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02-10-2023, 07:54 AM #6
My time, energy, and ability to recover continues to go down as I get older and take on more responsibilities, so I don't do as much as I used to.
I've done most routines but the best gains I had came from upper/lower twice a week and PPL routines in my 20s.
These days, I know i'm not going to be ronnie coleman, and i'm just happy if I get in the weight room 3 days a week and cardio a few days too.
I usually run some form of split routine (e.g., 3 day PPL) for slow gains or Upper, Lower, Upper with a push emphasis on one day and pull on the other.
One change i've made is to really tone my volume down for longevity and sustainability. I'm usually anywhere from 6-10 sets per muscle group per week, probably on the higher range at the moment.
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02-10-2023, 08:53 AM #7
Trained 3 on 1 off for a decade
Trained upper off lower plus arms off for three decades
Now back to 3 on 1 off
Why? Shorter sessions. Fits my life best at the moment.
What has changed- I do alot more low rep
And high rep stuff now insteaD of only moderate reps"A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another. "By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another."
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02-10-2023, 01:16 PM #8
How it changed over the years, it didn't really. Still following full body routines 3 times a week, cardio and abs on non lifting days like when I started. I just specialize a slight bit more(2 exercises a body part), instead of using less exercises that hit a broad coverage of the body. Like in the beginning I never did any isolations. But I think the training has to change as your goals change.
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