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    Originally Posted by freeburn View Post
    I wouldn't scrounge up more than one vid to post, because I don't really give a chit, and you think I'm gunna install a game and a bunch of mods and record gameplay and upload it for you?


    Lmfao. I didn't even watch more than 30 seconds of the vid I posted, I grabbed one of the first ones that popped up after searching modded gta. Again I don't care. I dont need to prove anything to the two residential horizon butt boys. The point I was making is that Coal Man can use his own peabrain to go look up videos instead of sitting around with tabs bookmarked in his web browser ready to argue at a moments notice.


    Also realize there are many different mods for games that have different features and looks. This was just one example thoughtlessly pulled from YouTube.
    It's not Coalman you need to prove anything to, its DF, since they rated HFW best graphics of the year. With PC's having unlimited power it should be easy to find something from last year which absolutely decimates some poverty console game. Do better.
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    Originally Posted by freeburn View Post

    Lmfao. I didn't even watch more than 30 seconds of the vid I posted, I grabbed one of the first ones that popped up after searching modded gta. Again I don't care. I dont need to prove anything to the two residential horizon butt boys. This was just one example thoughtlessly pulled from YouTube.
    Lmfao @ admitting you have no clue what you're posting and just throwing out ugly chit hoping it would stick to the wall. But who was asset quality/likeness, who was character animations, who was reaction to the environment etc. Making everything shiny like a cartoon doesn't make it look realistic, it does the opposite.

    I'm not even trying to be contrarian just out of spite, and I acknowledge it's an old game but I'm just saying both of you are wrong for saying an old modded game beats FW. Your strongest argument is still Cyberpunk or Callisto on PC, but you know it's not a strong point.
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    Originally Posted by OneLegSquats View Post
    It's not Coalman you need to prove anything to, its DF, since they rated HFW best graphics of the year. With PC's having unlimited power it should be easy to find something from last year which absolutely decimates some poverty console game. Do better.
    I don't need to prove anything to anyone lmao, they gave horizon best graphics because it was the best looking game released in 2022. Also, they are one random YouTube channel, you guys seem to worship them here but I don't even watch that channel bc honestly I don't give a fuk about that kind of stuff. I was playing games in 4k like 7 years ago, graphics aren't that exciting to me anymore.

    Theres plenty of games that rival it (esp if we factor in mods) that were not released in 2022. Horizon won best graphics in a category limited to one single year of releases.

    Games like rdr2 rival it for graphics, and rdr2 is over 3 years old and was developed for every platform, not just as a Sony exclusive that needs to perform only on one system. Modded cyberpunk, **** even vanilla cyberpunk.

    Ffs go play dead rising 4 and see good graphics from an older game with 1000 zombies rendered on screen. I'd love to see the framerate of horizon 2 with a few hundred character models rendering at once.

    At the end of the day horizon didn't reinvent the wheel here. Its a fantastic looking game, as it should be given the fact its one of sony's bread and butter franchises. The way you and coal man constantly use the "graphics of the year" phrase is so incredibly cringy it makes speaking to either of you unbearable.
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    Originally Posted by OneLegSquats View Post
    It's not Coalman you need to prove anything to, its DF, since they rated HFW best graphics of the year. With PC's having unlimited power it should be easy to find something from last year which absolutely decimates some poverty console game. Do better.
    This is all I'm saying. With those GPU's hitting 100 TFLOPS, VS a mere 10, there should be 50 games by now that just drown out consoles. And I fully agree that PC is more powerful (albeit far less optimized) but my overall point is nobody gives a fuk to make an insane looking PC game anymore. All they get is console ports. The last time devs tried hard on PC was Crysis series and to a lesser extent, Cyberpunk.

    The only chance PC seems to have is the Cyberpunk DLC and I'd admit from the trailer it looks sick. If they could fix their bad animations and uncanny valley from the main campaign then they may have something. If not, the best looking game on PC will be TLOU remake lol
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    Originally Posted by freeburn View Post
    I don't need to prove anything to anyone lmao, they gave horizon best graphics because it was the best looking game released in 2022.
    Sweet, I'll take this. At least PCcels can admit something in a rare gem of a moment.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    This is all I'm saying. With those GPU's hitting 100 TFLOPS, VS a mere 10, there should be 50 games by now that just drown out consoles. And I fully agree that PC is more powerful (albeit far less optimized) but my overall point is nobody gives a fuk to make an insane looking PC game anymore. All they get is console ports. The last time devs tried hard on PC was Crysis series and to a lesser extent, Cyberpunk.

    The only chance PC seems to have is the Cyberpunk DLC and I'd admit from the trailer it looks sick. If they could fix their bad animations and uncanny valley from the main campaign then they may have something. If not, the best looking game on PC will be TLOU remake lol
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    Of course you can find PC games from older times which will beat PS5 in 2020/2021 when PS5 had only just released and was putting out PS4 games upscaled. Hell even FW is an upscaled PS4 game and still completely mogs. The DLC is going to slaughter all competition this year too.

    @Friedbrain, if you don't agree with DF here's some other lists:
    https://gameranx.com/features/id/288...games-of-2022/

    Oh look.
    1. HFW
    2. GoW
    3. GT7

    lmao

    https://www.pczone.co.uk/games-with-...graphics-2022/

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    Originally Posted by OneLegSquats View Post
    This
    Of course you can find PC games from older times which will beat PS5 in 2020/2021 when PS5 had only just released and was putting out PS4 games upscaled. Hell even FW is an upscaled PS4 game and still completely mogs. The DLC is going to slaughter all competition this year too.

    @Friedbrain, if you don't agree with DF here's some other lists:
    https://gameranx.com/features/id/288...games-of-2022/

    Oh look.
    1. HFW
    2. GoW
    3. GT7

    lmao

    https://www.pczone.co.uk/games-with-...graphics-2022/

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    Originally Posted by OptimusTrajan View Post
    Damn. Sony needs to tell AMD what secret sauce is in their RDNA 2 chip.
    Strawman, we already established it's not the hardware, just lack of skill/incentive of devs to make anything gorgeous for the PC demographic. Instead they are all zuking PS5 cawk which is why I've been enjoying several games and hearing PCcels cry how they can't get the same game to run on their $3k machines lmao
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    Originally Posted by OptimusTrajan View Post
    Damn. Sony needs to tell AMD what secret sauce is in their RDNA 2 chip.
    Who cares, I only care about the results and the objective facts: HFW, GoW and GT7 on PS5 mog anything your incel tower can put out.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Strawman, we already established it's not the hardware, just lack of skill/incentive of devs to make anything gorgeous for the PC demographic. Instead they are all zuking PS5 cawk which is why I've been enjoying several games and hearing PCcels cry how they can't get the same game to run on their $3k machines lmao
    Good thing for PCcels that sony is so generous in porting their games to their machine now.

    A cinematic 40 fps in HLL is way better than 110-140. Can't wait to play it with some haptics. Hnnnngggg

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    Who cares, I only care about the results and the objective facts: HFW, GoW and GT7 on PS5 mog anything your incel tower can put out.
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    Originally Posted by OptimusTrajan View Post
    Good thing for PCcels that sony is so generous in porting their games to their machine now.

    A cinematic 40 fps in HLL is way better than 110-140. Can't wait to play it with some haptics. Hnnnngggg


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    Originally Posted by OptimusTrajan View Post
    Good thing for PCcels that sony is so generous in porting their games to their machine now.
    Yeah thank God yall are getting some scraps thrown to you. The number of PCcels that switched over to PS5 when they got a small taste of quality gaming has been monumental.

    Imagine your game being so good its now the top TV show in the world, and there are 2 other shows of Sony games currently in the works. TLOU 1 is gonna dominate PC charts and everyone is gonna run out to get a PS5 for TLOU2. Sony is gonna be breaking sales records this year.
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    Holy meltdown lmao
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    Yeah thank God yall are getting some scraps thrown to you. The number of PCcels that switched over to PS5 when they got a small taste of quality gaming has been monumental.

    Imagine your game being so good its now the top TV show in the world, and there are 2 other shows of Sony games currently in the works. TLOU 1 is gonna dominate PC charts and everyone is gonna run out to get a PS5 for TLOU2. Sony is gonna dominate this year.
    Das it mane. Fungus + zombies + lgbtq+ is the ticket.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Yeah thank God yall are getting some scraps thrown to you. The number of PCcels that switched over to PS5 when they got a small taste of quality gaming has been monumental.

    Imagine your game being so good its now the top TV show in the world, and there are 2 other shows of Sony games currently in the works. TLOU 1 is gonna dominate PC charts and everyone is gonna run out to get a PS5 for TLOU2. Sony is gonna be breaking sales records this year.
    This, and those nerd towers will be demoted to doing what they do best: MS Word, miscing, Youtube etc
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    This, and those nerd towers will be demoted to doing what they do best: MS Word, miscing, Youtube etc
    Let's not sell them short. Some PCcels still use their $3k nerd towers to play WOW and minecraft, which are certainly 2 of the games of all time.
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    Gotcha. The mo cap in horizon is the best I've seen so far, literally every convo is mo capped. RDR2 looks insane on PC but its age is showing a bit. Still, solid choice.

    I just can't vibe with Cyberpunk. The artstyle is somehow too cartoony to me, I don't know if it's because they focused more on lighting and reflections than textures. And again moving about the city and seeing the weak AI with NPCs just broke my immersion.
    Same. Gave up on Cyberpunk after a few missions. The world seems "empty" as hell despite being big. Just couldn't get into it.
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    You do realize consoles are what have been holding game graphics back for the last decade right

    Since the emphasis on game development has been on the higher-selling console units, they've had to dumb down visuals all this time



    I've seen & ran modded games that looked better in 2015 than today's titles

    A 4090 is roughly 250% more powerful than a PS5
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    Originally Posted by blissful88 View Post
    You do realize consoles are what have been holding game graphics back for the last decade right

    Since the emphasis on game development has been on the higher-selling console units, they've had to dumb down visuals all this time



    I've seen & ran modded games that looked better in 2015 than today's titles

    A 4090 is roughly 250% more powerful than a PS5
    You realize you are on my side on this argument right. Those are my points.

    - Top PC's are far more powerful
    - Devs don't care to make games for those machines, they care about consoles. PC mostly just get the ports.
    - Devs at Sony can fully optimize a game for their closed system that does alot to bridge the gap, as least for now as demonstrated by Forbidden West, a PS5 game that won graphics of the year for 2022
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    You realize you are on my side on this argument right. Those are my points.

    - Top PC's are far more powerful
    - Devs don't care to make games for those machines, they care about consoles. PC mostly just get the ports.
    - Devs at Sony can fully optimize a game for their closed system that does alot to bridge the gap, as least for now as demonstrated by Forbidden West, a PS5 game that won graphics of the year for 2022
    Yes, I'm just re-pointing out the whole PC vs Console argument is dumb, it's a shame consoles took over the gaming market post 2010 because if they hadn't we wood have those AI-sloot generated graphics long ago(legit photo realism)


    The advantage for consoles is once developers learn the limitations of the hardware & it's code, they can optimize within it's parameters whereas on PC you have hundreds of hardware configurations since the hardware architecture(s) change every year

    The PC advantage is you're not stuck with the same level of performance for nearly a decade; current consoles are going to be stuck @ 30fps again here shortly as these new engines come out


    Still if you're willing to modify games you can make 7+ year old titles look as good or better than anything being released right now #JustPCnerdThings
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    Originally Posted by blissful88 View Post
    A 4090 is roughly 250% more powerful than a PS5
    302% actually.


    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    PC mostly just get the ports.
    Depends on what type of games you play. Western AAA mainstream games? Sure.
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    Originally Posted by OptimusTrajan View Post
    302% actually.

    Was unaware the 6600xt is slightly better than the 2070; brootal

    300% Jesus brah they've been left behind entirely in just 2 years


    Depends on what type of games you play. Western AAA mainstream games? Sure.
    True; majority of PCcels aren't looking to play controller-based platformers/RPG's
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    Originally Posted by blissful88 View Post
    Yes, I'm just re-pointing out the whole PC vs Console argument is dumb, it's a shame consoles took over the gaming market post 2010 because if they hadn't we wood have those AI-sloot generated graphics long ago(legit photo realism)


    The advantage for consoles is once developers learn the limitations of the hardware & it's code, they can optimize within it's parameters whereas on PC you have hundreds of hardware configurations since the hardware architecture(s) change every year

    The PC advantage is you're not stuck with the same level of performance for nearly a decade; current consoles are going to be stuck @ 30fps again here shortly as these new engines come out


    Still if you're willing to modify games you can make 7+ year old titles look as good or better than anything being released right now #JustPCnerdThings
    Agree with some things here but it's not going down to 30fps. Lots of people are getting OLED tvs for their new consoles and realize 30 looks dogchit on it. I think 40fps/120hz will be the new big thing and performance 60 is here to say. Games that come without it are flopping.

    Also, I disagree that consoles are holding back graphics. Quite the opposite, I believe they are pushing graphics to higher standards. Powerful PCs only make up like 5% of all machines, most PCS are weaker than a PS5. If no consoles ever existed, devs would be making games that cater to the average PC gamer, not the super nerds with the 4090s

    But, since consoles exist and are the hot thing to get the best hype and sales, devs are focusing on making games for them, rather than the chitty RTX 1650 or whatever the average card is currently.
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    No, that makes you a traitor, you have to be loyal to just one plastic box and their games
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    No, that makes you a traitor, you have to be loyal to just one plastic box and their games
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    PCs under $1000 can't even do 4K really, so for what a PS5 can do (even if it's not always native 4K) for $500 is actually pretty amazing.

    Yes, you can argue that a high end PC will be able to render better graphics. But just a 4090 GPU is like what, $1700? This whole argument is silly.

    Stop being poorcels and get both.
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    True; majority of PCcels aren't looking to play controller-based platformers/RPG's
    Top PC single player games in 2023

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    3. Modern Warfare 2
    4. War Thunder
    5. FIFA 23
    6. Unturned
    7. Football Manager 2023
    8. Destiny 2
    9. Ark Survival
    10. Elden Ring


    Truly flexing dem 4090 powers.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Also, I disagree that consoles are holding back graphics. Quite the opposite, I believe they are pushing graphics to higher standards.
    In no way is that possible, if games were primarily being made for PC like they were in the 90's/00's, consoles would have a Crysis/CyberPunk 2077 scenario on most releases

    The reason they haven't released RDR2 on the new consoles is because they know they can't handle the game better than 4K(upscaled) 30fps'ish with lower settings; meanwhile my PC runs it @ 4K 120fps+ on max settings


    Powerful PCs only make up like 5% of all machines, most PCS are weaker than a PS5. If no consoles ever existed, devs would be making games that cater to the average PC gamer, not the super nerds with the 4090s
    They already make 99% of games catering to the average gaming PC which is roughly equal to a PS5 actually, in terms of raw speed; you can't count Dell desktops people use @ work w/ OEM 1650's

    1 in 6 people now own a gaming PC as of 2022, the market share has grown exponentially since Cuckvid Sharia-law


    Make no mistake, consoles have been holding back graphical progress for over a decade; the Rabbi's don't care because those 14 year olds will still buy them for those exclusive cartoon'ish games


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    Top PC single player games in 2023

    1. Lost Ark
    2. GTA 5
    3. Modern Warfare 2
    4. War Thunder
    5. FIFA 23
    6. Unturned
    7. Football Manager 2023
    8. Destiny 2
    9. Ark Survival
    10. Elden Ring


    Truly flexing dem 4090 powers.
    Can't be accurate, CS:Chitfensive is still top 3 every year

    GTA 5 is only popular for cheating & heavy modding, it's one of the games I made look better in 2015 than anything out today



    Edit: Oh, single player.. sounds lonely
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