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    Originally Posted by Xtian View Post
    This is exactly the kind of critique I’m looking for. I appreciate the feedback brah!

    Lower body on bench has always felt like **** to me. I’ve heard I should be flexing my glutes, quads and should be driving my legs towards the top of the bench. As far as my hips go I think I’m too concerned with my glutes coming off the bench. Looking at the vid again you’re right, I’m sinking and losing tightness. I’ll work on it for sure. Started benching more frequently because of smolov jr and I understand it’s going to take a lot of practice.

    Please keep the feedback coming guys. Thanks!
    Click the link in my sig and read the first post. I think it's a pretty good breakdown of how to get your lower body tighter and into a good position.

    What part of Cali are you in? I'm heading to San Diego next month and planning to go bench with AJ Roberts there.
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    Originally Posted by wrassler45 View Post
    I'm enhanced, so take this for whatever it's worth, but learn the difference between training for a max and just working out in the gym. There are so many different things you can change like feet placement, hip drive, proper back arch, and locking out with your scapula that can make very large jumps in your bench.
    Is there anything in particular you see in my 365 vid?

    I’ve been messing around with my foot placement. I don’t know if I like heel down or up but I always end up with them up on max attempts.

    I’ve never heard of locking out with my scapula before. I do remember Haack saying something up sinking into the lockout once in a video. I’m wondering if that’s the same thing.

    I have a hard time just training for a max, I’ve always been into power and aesthetics, and want both but I know will be a challenge for me moving forward.

    When I ran smolov a few months ago I didn’t follow the program as I did squat and bench together. I couldn’t just come in for one exercise so I did my usual bodybuilding crap with it lol. Despite that I still hit my 500 squat goal but I know I could’ve gotten more if I wasn’t so fuking stubborn.

    I appreciate you being transparent about being enhanced. It doesn’t make your lifts less impressive or anything like that. Thank you brah!
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    Originally Posted by Drew23 View Post
    Click the link in my sig and read the first post. I think it's a pretty good breakdown of how to get your lower body tighter and into a good position.

    What part of Cali are you in? I'm heading to San Diego next month and planning to go bench with AJ Roberts there.
    I’m in so cal about 2.5 hours from San Diego.

    Thanks for the link. Reading it now!
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    Originally Posted by Xtian View Post
    Did not feel like doing smolov jr today. Have been feeling run down all week so here’s an ugly ass 365x1 from literally an hour ago. My grip was a bit too close for my liking and it makes sense as it felt like an rpe 10



    Let’s go boys don’t let this thread die already!
    Speed coming off the bottom was impressive for sure
    I'm not even gonna pretend I'll have anything intelligent to add you don't already know other than to keep grinding
    Ive found when you get into these kind of maximal loads, every LB added is big win

    Adding a 5lb plate to each side of bar already loaded with 365 feels like a whole ass wheel got put on
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    Originally Posted by Drew23 View Post
    Click the link in my sig and read the first post. I think it's a pretty good breakdown of how to get your lower body tighter and into a good position.
    I just finished reading the thread. Solid breakdown for sure but do you happen to have vids of your bench.

    Noticed you threw round 5/3/1 a few times in there. I’ve always liked that program, think it’s still viable for me and my bench goal?
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    Fook, glad to see this still going.

    I might have to get a vid or two of me benching and squatting for some tips. What's the easiest/best way to upload it? Do I need a youtube channel?

    I know my squat form is ass and I'm sure my bench can get better. I can get really good depth squatting, but when I push up out of the hole something is wonky with my hips and I dont know how to fix it.
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    Originally Posted by Drew23 View Post
    Where are you training for strongman? If you're not at Lightning Fitness with Matt Mills you should be.
    Lightning Fitness is like a 90 mins drive one way and I work 6 days a week. Gleasons is the closest but I wasn’t really a fan when I tried training there. I could try Hellbent I guess not sure how much strongman stuff they have. I go to an Edge so yea not the best equipment and pretty much no way to train for strongman there.
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    Speed coming off the bottom was impressive for sure
    I'm not even gonna pretend I'll have anything intelligent to add you don't already know other than to keep grinding
    Ive found when you get into these kind of maximal loads, every LB added is big win

    Adding a 5lb plate to each side of bar already loaded with 365 feels like a whole ass wheel got put on
    Thanks brah! I’m guilty of being overly ambitious with my weekly LB jumps. You’re right, small incremental progression is definitely a big win.
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    Impressed with the amount of 405+ plate benchers in here and we’re still on page 1.

    Can any of you big benchers give me tips or programs to look into? I’m willing to eat my way there but absolutely not take any juice. I came this far and want to see it through natty. Thank you in advance
    Switching to two press days a week and switching from benching on my toes to benching flat foot were the two biggest changes I made when I was stuck at 335 and now I’m over 4 plates. Also did a 12 week program from Josh Bryant and I learned a ton from it. Not a fan of smolov jr
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    Originally Posted by Xtian View Post
    I just finished reading the thread. Solid breakdown for sure but do you happen to have vids of your bench.

    Noticed you threw round 5/3/1 a few times in there. I’ve always liked that program, think it’s still viable for me and my bench goal?
    I'll put some vids up at some point. I bench feet flat out in front, so a little different from you.
    5/3/1 is a fine program but they're all good. I would recommend reading the book if you really want to do it. For your strength level it may be beneficial to hire someone to program you if you have the money. I would recommend Bfitct (Bobby Hume), bcbtrainingsystems (Chris DellaFave), or queenbeepower (Laura Phelps)

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    Lightning Fitness is like a 90 mins drive one way and I work 6 days a week. Gleasons is the closest but I wasn’t really a fan when I tried training there. I could try Hellbent I guess not sure how much strongman stuff they have. I go to an Edge so yea not the best equipment and pretty much no way to train for strongman there.
    We don't have much for strongman at Hellbent, we're primarily a powerlifting gym. But it's a much better atmosphere than Gleason's, they're more USAPL lifting. At Hellbent we bench heavy on Fridays around 4pm and Squat heavy on Sunday mornings. I think there's a raw crew that squats on Saturday mornings. If you want to come in and check it out Friday or Sunday would be your best bet. Tell whoever that Drew sent you and you can ask for me or Mike Skiba, he's the gym owner.

    Also you should consider making a trip to Lightning even if it's once a month. That's really the best place in CT for Strongman.
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    Originally Posted by Xtian View Post
    Is there anything in particular you see in my 365 vid?

    I’ve been messing around with my foot placement. I don’t know if I like heel down or up but I always end up with them up on max attempts.

    I’ve never heard of locking out with my scapula before. I do remember Haack saying something up sinking into the lockout once in a video. I’m wondering if that’s the same thing.

    I have a hard time just training for a max, I’ve always been into power and aesthetics, and want both but I know will be a challenge for me moving forward.

    When I ran smolov a few months ago I didn’t follow the program as I did squat and bench together. I couldn’t just come in for one exercise so I did my usual bodybuilding crap with it lol. Despite that I still hit my 500 squat goal but I know I could’ve gotten more if I wasn’t so fuking stubborn.

    I appreciate you being transparent about being enhanced. It doesn’t make your lifts less impressive or anything like that. Thank you brah!
    I've been on gear on and off since I was training for Fila junior worlds in high school, and coach gave them to me lol. They are just part of it now. As for that video, foot placement should be as flat as possible. I know this seems hard, but concentrating on driving heels down. It seems like you get more drive from your toes, but in reality you're asking your ankles, a very mobile joint, to keep your hips in place. Next comes tightening the glutes keeping your hips locked in. From there, squeeze the bench with your shoulders, and pull your triceps into your lats. This is where the "locking out with your scapula" comes from. Different terminology for different people but basically your using your whole body to lock out the bench. Notice where your sticking point at the end was? Elbows started to flare and the weight almost stopped. That bar should be coming up using your whole body. Driving from heels, its almost swinging it back
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    Yeah, you gotta be at least 200 KG to be considered big these days.
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    I'll put some vids up at some point. I bench feet flat out in front, so a little different from you.
    5/3/1 is a fine program but they're all good. I would recommend reading the book if you really want to do it. For your strength level it may be beneficial to hire someone to program you if you have the money. I would recommend Bfitct (Bobby Hume), bcbtrainingsystems (Chris DellaFave), or queenbeepower (Laura Phelps)
    Originally Posted by wrassler45 View Post
    I've been on gear on and off since I was training for Fila junior worlds in high school, and coach gave them to me lol. They are just part of it now. As for that video, foot placement should be as flat as possible. I know this seems hard, but concentrating on driving heels down. It seems like you get more drive from your toes, but in reality you're asking your ankles, a very mobile joint, to keep your hips in place. Next comes tightening the glutes keeping your hips locked in. From there, squeeze the bench with your shoulders, and pull your triceps into your lats. This is where the "locking out with your scapula" comes from. Different terminology for different people but basically you’re using your whole body to lock out the bench. Notice where your sticking point at the end was? Elbows started to flare and the weight almost stopped. That bar should be coming up using your whole body. Driving from heels, its almost swinging it back
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    Switching to two press days a week and switching from benching on my toes to benching flat foot were the two biggest changes I made when I was stuck at 335 and now I’m over 4 plates. Also did a 12 week program from Josh Bryant and I learned a ton from it. Not a fan of smolov jr
    How’d you set up your 2 press days? 1 heavy and a light day? How many sets and reps?
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    Belt squats were calling my name so did 180 per side for 4 sets of 6 reps
    Threw in some Bulgarian lunges and calf raises

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    Originally Posted by Xtian View Post
    Legs today gentlemen

    Beltless Pause squats for funsies
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    Belt squats were calling my name so did 180 per side for 4 sets of 6 reps
    Threw in some Bulgarian lunges and calf raises

    Would be awesome to be able to squat 500 for reps this year.



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    I'll get 400lb bench by the end of the year, i got 12 months
    I might go for a 4 plate bench this year too. I'm probably around 335-345 right now. Doable with the right supps. A lot of guys in here with huge benches. Impressive stuff.
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    I might go for a 4 plate bench this year too. I'm probably around 335-345 right now. Doable with the right supps. A lot of guys in here with huge benches. Impressive stuff.
    Race you there brah,we are probably around similar bench so will be good to see.

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    Originally Posted by Insihdemang View Post
    Race you there brah,we are probably around similar bench so will be good to see.

    I may try go for a 2 plate barbell OHP too by the end of the year.
    Alright but I'm not a hurry to hit it. I'm cutting right now then gonna bulk up on hypertrophy program. Then do some strength blocks after that.
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    Impressed with the amount of 405+ plate benchers in here and we’re still on page 1.

    Can any of you big benchers give me tips or programs to look into? I’m willing to eat my way there but absolutely not take any juice. I came this far and want to see it through natty. Thank you in advance
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    Alright but I'm not a hurry to hit it. I'm cutting right now then gonna bulk up on hypertrophy program. Then do some strength blocks after that.
    I aint in no rush either, more concerned with tryna squeeze out the last few natty gains I have and then just maintaining

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    390 for an easy triple on CG bench last night. 3 weeks out from a meet, bench and deadlift feeling strong. Squat not so much.

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    How’d you set up your 2 press days? 1 heavy and a light day? How many sets and reps?
    Day 1
    Competition bench usually sets of 5. Either increase the weight or increase the number of sets each week.
    Bench variation (pin presses, board presses, incline barbell, spoto press etc.) work up to a triple, double, or single

    Day 2
    Standing ohp - cluster singles either 8-12 in one set or 3 sets of 4-6 singles
    Cg bench- triple for speed and then finish with a touch and go AMRAP set

    And then I do random accessories on both days

    Originally Posted by Drew23 View Post

    We don't have much for strongman at Hellbent, we're primarily a powerlifting gym. But it's a much better atmosphere than Gleason's, they're more USAPL lifting. At Hellbent we bench heavy on Fridays around 4pm and Squat heavy on Sunday mornings. I think there's a raw crew that squats on Saturday mornings. If you want to come in and check it out Friday or Sunday would be your best bet. Tell whoever that Drew sent you and you can ask for me or Mike Skiba, he's the gym owner.

    Also you should consider making a trip to Lightning even if it's once a month. That's really the best place in CT for Strongman.
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