Official 2023 Season Formula 1 Thread

**R3L3NTL3SS** · 03-08-2023, 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN

Jolyon's analysis just uploaded shows that red Bull wasn't even pushing their car at the race.... Pretty much just chilled to a 1-2 finish.

They weren’t.
Not only were they just making the tires last, they were on the lowest engine mode lol. If they were pushing, Max would have likely lapped everyone up to the top 5 or so lmao.

Red Bull will win the constructors and Max will win the drivers. No doubt about it.
Even if they didn’t develop the car for the rest of the season, no one would catch up.

**HMFIC_BROWSIN** · 03-08-2023, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS

. If they were pushing, Max would have likely lapped everyone up to the top 5 or so lmao.

Brutal. They should do this for one race just to stamp it.

**macmoney** · 03-09-2023, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS

They weren’t.
Not only were they just making the tires last, they were on the lowest engine mode lol.

Is that you just saying that? or is there any data/ video showing this? If so id like to read/ watch it.

Cause good lord.

**Tuga88** · 03-09-2023, 09:34 AM

Lmao, so many analysts and some drivers are already crying and saying the season is over, Red Bull are too strong.

**HMFIC_BROWSIN** · 03-09-2023, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by Tuga88

Lmao, so many analysts and some drivers are already crying and saying the season is over, Red Bull are too strong.

I mean..... They aren't wrong LOL. Horner and Max would need to rage quit, then Aston or Ferrari would STILL need a miracle to even have a chance at the title.

**superfunk** · 03-09-2023, 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by macmoney

Is that you just saying that? or is there any data/ video showing this? If so id like to read/ watch it.

Cause good lord.

I can't confirm the engine mode but if you watch Verstappens helmet cam it gives you the team radio audio, and 58sec into the very first lap his engineer asked him to go into management mode. Max still pulled away from Ferrari by nearly a sec a lap despite being in management mode...

**R3L3NTL3SS** · 03-10-2023, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by Tuga88

Lmao, so many analysts and some drivers are already crying and saying the season is over, Red Bull are too strong.

Because it is lol.
If Red Bull stops developing their car for the rest of the season, no one would catch them still. They torched everyone on a low engine mode, not even pushing and just trying to keep life in the tires lol.

**Tuga88** · 03-11-2023, 01:23 AM

https://www.mercedesamgf1.com/news/a-letter-to-the-fans

Lol at this chit.

**HMFIC_BROWSIN** · 03-11-2023, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Tuga88

https://www.mercedesamgf1.com/news/a-letter-to-the-fans

Lol at this chit.

Lmfao!

Hope they don't win a race for the entire season CREW.

**R3L3NTL3SS** · 03-11-2023, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Tuga88

https://www.mercedesamgf1.com/news/a-letter-to-the-fans

Lol at this chit.

Lmao cringe.

**R3L3NTL3SS** · 03-13-2023, 04:02 PM

Ferrari apparently already imploding. Tons of top guys ready to leave, etc.

**HMFIC_BROWSIN** · 03-13-2023, 04:11 PM

Just took max to win qualifying @ +125. Sergio the only threat right now.

**HMFIC_BROWSIN** · 03-13-2023, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS

Ferrari apparently already imploding. Tons of top guys ready to leave, etc.

I'll be in Rome during the next race. Should watch it at a bar for some biblical tears lmao.

**R3L3NTL3SS** · 03-13-2023, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN

I'll be in Rome during the next race. Should watch it at a bar for some biblical tears lmao.

Damn that sounds epic AF.

**R3L3NTL3SS** · 03-15-2023, 12:05 PM

It’s official.
LeClerc already taking a grid penalty for his third (only two allowed) battery storage system.

**HMFIC_BROWSIN** · 03-15-2023, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS

It’s official.
LeClerc already taking a grid penalty for his third (only two allowed) battery storage system.

Brutal....

Imagine taking a 10-place grid penalty on the SECOND RACE of the season. If Mercedes simply don't break down this year they could place ahead of Ferrari in the championship by default at this rate.

Oh well, just a cleaner podium opportunity for the GOAT.

I have Alonso for fastest in fp1 (lol, yes you can bet on practice)
I have verstappen to win qualifying
I have verstappen to win the race (this is the only one that matters)

I might take Alonso for another podium again depending on how qualifying goes.

Wish I could take sainz for a podium bet.... But you just can't expect those chitboxes to finish a race.

**Barteh** · 03-15-2023, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN

Brutal....

Imagine taking a 10-place grid penalty on the SECOND RACE of the season. If Mercedes simply don't break down this year they could place ahead of Ferrari in the championship by default at this rate.

Oh well, just a cleaner podium opportunity for the GOAT.

I have Alonso for fastest in fp1 (lol, yes you can bet on practice)
I have verstappen to win qualifying
I have verstappen to win the race (this is the only one that matters)

I might take Alonso for another podium again depending on how qualifying goes.

Wish I could take sainz for a podium bet.... But you just can't expect those chitboxes to finish a race.

Aren't you the guy who kept taking underdog bets in the +500-1000 range that I told to just go for Max? If so I'm sure that's being going pretty well for you then.

I imagine the race odds are pretty rough though.

**HMFIC_BROWSIN** · 03-16-2023, 02:46 AM

Originally Posted by Barteh

Aren't you the guy who kept taking underdog bets in the +500-1000 range that I told to just go for Max? If so I'm sure that's being going pretty well for you then.

I imagine the race odds are pretty rough though.

Yeah, this year is different imo. Early last year there was competition from Ferrari especially on specific tracks which made it more interesting..... Right now I think anything better than -200 is value for Max to win. Maybe Aston Martin will get even with RB over the season development. But that won't be for a long time. Probably not until after RB locks in both championships.

I got max to win this weekend at -150, he has since shifted to -200, which is still good value IMO.

It feels like Red Bull can chose how much faster they want to go than everyone else right now LOL

Edit: I also took a micro bet on leclerc to be the first driver to retire.... Between fighting his way up from a grid penalty, AND the mechanical issues, +2200 seems like value.

**macmoney** · 03-16-2023, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN

Maybe Aston Martin will get even with RB over the season development. But that won't be for a long time. Probably not until after RB locks in both championships.

I think Aston is the only one that RB is worried about. They have a lot of factors that RB knows their fast enough, knows that have good enough tire degradation.

**Weightaholic** · 03-17-2023, 01:40 AM

Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS

Don’t want to speak too soon, but it looks like this is going to be an easy constructors win for Red Bull and Championship 3 for Max.

You're not speaking too soon. RB and VER are the best car/driver combo in the field by a mile.

My big hope is the Aston Martin can continue with a good showing. Was very impressed by Stroll, driving around with 2 broken wrists and a broken toe for 6th shows hi mto be tough. I've always thought he was a bit unfarily treated, Sure his dad now owns the team, but he's had a pole, and he's shown some great speed in the wet previously. I don't think he can beat Alonso, but not as bad as a lot of pundits say.

Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN

How hard is it for fuarking Mercedes to throw on a new side pod? Legit should be relatively easy. Seems like self sabotage at this point

It's not as simple as just whacking on some RB sidepods, the whole of the car has to work, from front wing through to rear. It will be fundamentally a redesign from the ground up.

**HMFIC_BROWSIN** · 03-17-2023, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by Weightaholic

Was very impressed by Stroll, driving around with 2 broken wrists and a broken toe for 6th shows hi mto be tough. I've always thought he was a bit unfarily treated, Sure his dad now owns the team, but he's had a pole, and he's shown some great speed in the wet previously. I don't think he can beat Alonso, but not as bad as a lot of pundits say.

I'm tired of everyone pumping up stroll; he almost fuked Fernando out of the race on lap 1.... In which case I suppose he could have blamed his wrists had it happened that way.

He's so lucky he didn't puncture Alonso there, would have been fuked.

Even if leclerc didn't retire, Alonso would have been on podium if stroll didn't smack into him on lap 1. Stroll made it so the only reason Alonso got podium was because leclerc retired.

It's not as simple as just whacking on some RB sidepods, the whole of the car has to work, from front wing through to rear. It will be fundamentally a redesign from the ground up.

Yeah, I was listening to some analyst who was pointing out that they'd have to change radiators, hard points of the frame, re-test it in the tunnel, etc etc.

I thought Mercedes tested a more standard side pod in one of the races last year? Maybe my memory serves me wrong, or it was a failure for them.

**Kylehero** · 03-17-2023, 03:05 AM

Fkin in!

Pumped for Jeddah this weekend. Praying Merc can find their pace with James Allison back in the saddle.

**superfunk** · 03-17-2023, 06:28 AM

FP1 starts in a few min, this should give us an idea of how close Ferrari/Merc/Aston are to Redbull on a completely different track that rewards different car characteristics. Max is sick. Checo is a street race master. Hoping for a close race on Sunday.

**superfunk** · 03-17-2023, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN

I'm tired of everyone pumping up stroll; he almost fuked Fernando out of the race on lap 1.... In which case I suppose he could have blamed his wrists had it happened that way.

To be fair to Stroll, it looked like Alonso was going to go around the outside then he suddenly switched to the inside and parked himself on the apex, glad it didn't cause major damage.

**Barteh** · 03-17-2023, 09:23 AM

I love this circuit.

**cobhc** · 03-17-2023, 10:13 AM

Fuark... I think Aston might be the real deal.

**HMFIC_BROWSIN** · 03-17-2023, 10:32 AM

These Ferraris just don't have it.

SAD!

We got a haas, Aston, and an alpine in front of them right now on this track. Jfl

**menseks** · 03-17-2023, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by cobhc

Fuark... I think Aston might be the real deal.

if nando keeps the pace before summer break, then i'll believe it.

**HMFIC_BROWSIN** · 03-17-2023, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by menseks

if nando keeps the pace before summer break, then i'll believe it.

If AM can develop like last year, and if RB finishes the championship in 15 races, there's a chance we'll see some cool stuff in the second half of the season. Until then, looks like red Bull 1-2 every race.

**Barteh** · 03-17-2023, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by HMFIC_BROWSIN

If AM can develop like last year, and if RB finishes the championship in 15 races, there's a chance we'll see some cool stuff in the second half of the season. Until then, looks like red Bull 1-2 every race.

If everything about the engine settings from Red Bull are true then yeah no team will catch up during the first half and Red Bull might start working on the 2024 car early.

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