American Football is a badly designed sport srs

[MBisonSon]

I usually watch the DE/OLB go at it with the tackle, and how close they get to the QB.

Used to be awesome watching Khalil Mack throw linemen around.

Also even though Bears suck David Montgomery breaks at least one tackle basically every run, so that's fun to watch too.

[Barteh]

Technical skill is also extremely important. Its just a bad take however you cut it. I used to mock cricket until I lived overseas and learned the game and now I love it. If you dont know the game, you just dont know.

Yeah hard to judge when you don't watch. I've seen some impressive long throws that ended up in a touchdown. For me it's the pace of the game and amount of ads/breaks that stops me from ever getting into it. I already feel like basketball and MMA have a lot of that and with american football it's way way worse.

One of the best parts of the game is the anticipation of the next play, specially when things get down to the end and its close. I hate commercials but saying there is no action between plays is dumb. There is a lot going on if you actually watch it. Personal changes, how they line up, coverage, etc.

I have a buddy who records the games and fast forwards through a lot of it. Completely killing the vibe of the game. Go watch a 5 min recap of any game. Its bam bam bam and truly sucks for the fan experience. Its pointless.

You actually have a similar anticipation with regular football but instead of watching ads you're watching players pass the ball around and you can analyze tactics, deep runs, pressing etc. So there's always at least something going on. I feel like it's pretty disrespectful to viewers to throw ads in your face for the majority of the game.

[SmithMachineGuy]

OP is not wrong.

[IlChosenOne]

Yea it’s shte innit mate?

[SoutheastBeast1]

This might be your most ridiculous post ever, and shows you have zero understanding of football schematically. I almost think this a troll its so ridiculous.


Watch videos breaking down defensive and offensive schemes, and you will see the level of involvement of all eleven players how the smallest mistakes in positioning, communication, leverage, midreading by one individual can fuk your whole side.

Not one of those is a skill. So there's an element of studying the game... ok?? There's positioning, communication, and reading the opponent in literally all team sports. Those are some of the most basic foundations of what it means to participate in a team sport.

What the f*ck are you actually even rambling about here? The fact you need to point out communication is a skill in football shows how little skill there actually is in football. I guess my post doesn't seem so ridiculous after all.... yours on the other hand ranking pretty high on the ridiculous meter. LAMO at communication and positioning being the necessary skills to succeed in football.... talk about easy as f*ck skills to acquire. I guess when the average IQ of a football player rivals legal retardation those would seem like impressive skills. For the rest of us, being able to follow simple directions such as positioning yourself properly and communicating effectively are skills we might expect a toddler to need to practice.

He's quite obviously talking about technical skill, not tactical skill. I don't think anybody denies tactics play a big role in handegg.

At least someone has a brain in here. Good lord at the other dude. The irony that my post was the ridiculous one... lmao


Honestly the coaching and play calling in football is easily the most intricate of any sport. The athletes themselves really don't have many skills to master to be good though. Like I already spelled out in the other post.

[dabbmw2002]

Not one of those is a skill. So there's an element of studying the game... ok?? There's positioning, communication, and reading the opponent in literally all team sports. Those are some of the most basic foundations of what it means to participate in a team sport.

What the f*ck are you actually even rambling about here? The fact you need to point out communication is a skill in football shows how little skill there actually is in football. I guess my post doesn't seem so ridiculous after all.... yours on the other hand ranking pretty high on the ridiculous meter. LAMO at communication and positioning being the necessary skills to succeed in football.... talk about easy as f*ck skills to acquire. I guess when the average IQ of a football player rivals legal retardation those would seem like impressive skills. For the rest of us, being able to follow simple directions such as positioning yourself properly and communicating effectively are skills we might expect a toddler to need to practice.




At least someone has a brain in here. Good lord at the other dude. The irony that my post was the ridiculous one... lmao


Honestly the coaching and play calling in football is easily the most intricate of any sport. The athletes themselves really don't have many skills to master to be good though. Like I already spelled out in the other post.

You really dont undertand the game, do you?

What happens when the QB audibles out of the called play with less than ten seconds on the play clock and splits the half back to the slot position. The defensive play call was man coverage with two high safeties, who moves to the cover the running back who is now in the three position? One of the linebackers or one of the safeties? What's the score? What's the down and yardage? How good are your corners in single coverage without over-the-top help? Did the QB audible this to give his one receiver single coverage for a go route knowing the defense was going to bring a safety up to cover the slot meaning only one safety who will have to choose which side of the field to help on? What kind of front does the defense run? A 4-3 defense with smaller downed linemen and bigger line backers, or 3-4 with a dominant nose tackle and smaller and faster linebackers who can single cover tight ends and running backs?

You have a few seconds for the play caller on the defensive side to adjust the coverage for all the backs. One fuk up on one play and you give up touchdown. Zero margin for error.

Ironically, you insult for being stupid, yet you're proving yourself to be ignorant and stupid.

[HayZues Christi]

OP makes some good points. Lmao @ thoae who can't acknowledge its a 3 hr boner pull and truck commercial.


He's wrong about there not being staretgy, right about the zoomed in cam.

Also.wrong about there being fat ****s on the field. Those guys are ridiculous athletes.

[Cadet4life]

excect it's the most alpha sport on the planet.

[Barteh]

OP makes some good points. Lmao @ thoae who can't acknowledge its a 3 hr boner pull and truck commercial.


He's wrong about there not being staretgy, right about the zoomed in cam.

Also.wrong about there being fat ****s on the field. Those guys are ridiculous athletes.

There's definitely some fat fuks on the field at least when I watched. But I believe it's only for specific positions, obviously there's freak athletes too.

[tehgosu]

I mean you're not wrong OP, it's a very static game vs something like basketball or football (soccer)

problem with basketball is is they commercialised it too much as well so every round in playoffs has like 4-7 games in it which kills the tension of it being a knockout phase

I often watch NFL playoff games on BBC tho and they go to the studio in between plays to analyse the plays (instead of showing endless commercials), that way in combination with it being knockout games it's pretty entertaining (and sometimes I'll watch extensive highlights of regular season games)

almost every game definitely has one or multiple crazy plays happening so it's not completely boring, especially if two good teams play eachother

[x-trainer ben]

i will tell Walter your opinion and 6 points... so what sport is better or equally as good, op?


"On April 7, 1859, Walter Chauncey Camp, the “Father of American football,” was born in New Britain, Connecticut. Camp was a gifted athlete who participated in baseball, crew, swimming, tennis, and track. He excelled at football, however, and played for Yale for six years–four as an undergraduate and two as a medical student. Remarkably, Walter Camp was captain of both the freshman baseball and football teams, a testament to his athleticism. He later developed the “Daily Dozen,” a series of exercises for physical fitness used to train servicemen in World War I."

[LinuxJon]

If you think it's poorly designed now, go back and watch old games.

BRB, goalposts in the front of the end zone.
BRB, guys running 20mph while dodging steel beams

[bicmane123]

Lol @ watching ball sports

It's fun if you are betting.

Combat sports >>> ball sports.

[Mj-drewfan32]

If it was not for fantasy football i wouldent even tune in srs. FF single handedly saved the sport.

[leafs43]

"OnlY 11 miNuTeS oF AcTioN"

brb, passing the ball around for 90 minutes that ends in a 0-0 tie.

Fuk you OP

[goingcia]

Out of the 3 hour game there's literally 60 minutes of action. It's a 60 minute play clock.

There was an analysis done and the actual time of action is 10 minutes and 43 seconds. The rest is ads, reviews, walking around, scratching your ass, etc.

You really dont undertand the game, do you?

What happens when the QB audibles out of the called play with less than ten seconds on the play clock and splits the half back to the slot position. The defensive play call was man coverage with two high safeties, who moves to the cover the running back who is now in the three position? One of the linebackers or one of the safeties? What's the score? What's the down and yardage? How good are your corners in single coverage without over-the-top help? Did the QB audible this to give his one receiver single coverage for a go route knowing the defense was going to bring a safety up to cover the slot meaning only one safety who will have to choose which side of the field to help on? What kind of front does the defense run? A 4-3 defense with smaller downed linemen and bigger line backers, or 3-4 with a dominant nose tackle and smaller and faster linebackers who can single cover tight ends and running backs?

You have a few seconds for the play caller on the defensive side to adjust the coverage for all the backs. One fuk up on one play and you give up touchdown. Zero margin for error.

Ironically, you insult for being stupid, yet you're proving yourself to be ignorant and stupid.

All of this is still positioning and strategy. What he is talking about is physical technical skill. Yes you do need a skill to maneuver and absorb tackles but for most players on the field, it comes down to physical strength/size and/or speed. You have to have those in other sports too but there you also need incredible skill to not just maneuver yourself but control the ball while doing it.

In eropean football, the kicks, the receiving of the ball, the control, the dribbling, the fakeouts, the precision in passing, it's all impressive to watch (same in basketball) at all times and its going on the entire match. By comparison, the actual 'action' in american football, while enjoyable due to the sheer athleticism, seems very simple.

I will clarify to your point, there is definitely strategy in american football. Absolutely. But it is just as complex in other sports where they don't pause the game every few seconds. Again, in euro football, there are plays for free kicks and there plays for organic attacks that every player on the field is aware of and its a thing of beauty watching them recognize the setups and fall into those positions or make those runs to make it happen. It's easy to see too, because the camera is zoomed out.

excect it's the most alpha sport on the planet.

The cringe was another point I forgot to add. The supposed "badassery" of football is the equivalent of two ****gits standing chest to chest outside a bar, yelling "what? what?" at each other and not throwing a punch. There is a lot of tough act in the game but it never goes anywhere. A bunch of big dudes who are trained to swallow being roughed up and move on. Compared to hockey, it looks pathetic. That's the most alpha team sport on the planet by far. Speaking of cringe, those elaborate TD celebrations make me rage.

"OnlY 11 miNuTeS oF AcTioN"

brb, passing the ball around for 90 minutes that ends in a 0-0 tie.

Fuk you OP

First, no, **** YOU. Second, I wasn't making any comparisons to european football in OP, you insecure ****git. But since you did, american football is passing nearly the entire game so wtf is wrong with passing? Also, let's not act like american football's 16-17 result last night (buccs vs saints) is not basically 2.2 - 2.3. A goalless soccer game is very rare and even the goalless games can be incredibly fun to watch because there is a lot to see.

And 11 minutes of action is not my estimate, there was an analysis done that estimated it at 10 minutes and 43 seconds.

[DustinTheHuss]

I really enjoy American football and I only got into it within the last few years.

There are a lot of strategies that I don't even get.

You say only the QB only does impressive things? What about the wide receivers, the running backs? The way they can change course so quickly amazes me and they're so fast. Watch how strong someone like Nick Bosa is when he sacks the QB. It's not easy to do that. He has to do amazing lifting, running and a gross diet to be one of the best. He's hardly obese with his body fat at like 5%. Fred Warner, Talanoa Hufanga, I can go on with just the Niners defense.

[goingcia]

I really enjoy American football and I only got into it within the last few years.

There are a lot of strategies that I don't even get.

You say only the QB only does impressive things? What about the wide receivers, the running backs? The way they can change course so quickly amazes me and they're so fast. Watch how strong someone like Nick Bosa is when he sacks the QB. It's not easy to do that. He has to do amazing lifting, running and a gross diet to be one of the best. He's hardly obese with his body fat at like 5%. Fred Warner, Talanoa Hufanga, I can go on with just the Niners defense.

Don't get me wrong now, I do enjoy it. The speed and power on display are impressive. The strategies are great when you can see them. But the flaws are undeniable.

Football fans here seem to struggle separating skill from athleticism. QB throws are super impressive but wide receivers and running backs? Their speed and strength and maneuverability are impressive for sure. But what they do looks incredibly simplistic/bland compared to other team sports where you have to be very athletic too but ALSO have the skill to control the ball/puck in a way thats incredibly elaborate. Seeing someone like Messi pass several defenders takes a rare talent and is a million times more impressive than seeing a receiver pass some defense. I mean the amount of stuff involved you cannot even compare.

[dabbmw2002]

There was an analysis done and the actual time of action is 10 minutes and 43 seconds. The rest is ads, reviews, walking around, scratching your ass, etc.




All of this is still positioning and strategy. What he is talking about is physical technical skill. Yes you do need a skill to maneuver and absorb tackles but for most players on the field, it comes down to physical strength/size and/or speed. You have to have those in other sports too but there you also need incredible skill to not just maneuver yourself but control the ball while doing it.

In eropean football, the kicks, the receiving of the ball, the control, the dribbling, the fakeouts, the precision in passing, it's all impressive to watch (same in basketball) at all times and its going on the entire match. By comparison, the actual 'action' in american football, while enjoyable due to the sheer athleticism, seems very simple.

I will clarify to your point, there is definitely strategy in american football. Absolutely. But it is just as complex in other sports where they don't pause the game every few seconds. Again, in euro football, there are plays for free kicks and there plays for organic attacks that every player on the field is aware of and its a thing of beauty watching them recognize the setups and fall into those positions or make those runs to make it happen. It's easy to see too, because the camera is zoomed out.



The cringe was another point I forgot to add. The supposed "badassery" of football is the equivalent of two ****gits standing chest to chest outside a bar, yelling "what? what?" at each other and not throwing a punch. There is a lot of tough act in the game but it never goes anywhere. A bunch of big dudes who are trained to swallow being roughed up and move on. Compared to hockey, it looks pathetic. That's the most alpha team sport on the planet by far. Speaking of cringe, those elaborate TD celebrations make me rage.



First, no, **** YOU. Second, I wasn't making any comparisons to european football in OP, you insecure ****git. But since you did, american football is passing nearly the entire game so wtf is wrong with passing? Also, let's not act like american football's 16-17 result last night (buccs vs saints) is not basically 2.2 - 2.3. A goalless soccer game is very rare and even the goalless games can be incredibly fun to watch because there is a lot to see.

And 11 minutes of action is not my estimate, there was an analysis done that estimated it at 10 minutes and 43 seconds.

My old man is a foreigner who played soccer all his life and I grew up playing and watching it myself. I love futbol, and everything you say about it is true.

I did just explain strategy and positioning, but before you get to complicated playcalls, 90% of training and preperation is technique, footwork, hand position.

[bongowongo]

You know that american handegg is the biggest joke of the sports world when the most exciting thing about the superbowl is people being more excited who sings at the halftime show lmfaooo.

[thedarrenestes]

There was an analysis done and the actual time of action is 10 minutes and 43 seconds. The rest is ads, reviews, walking around, scratching your ass, etc.
And 11 minutes of action is not my estimate, there was an analysis done that estimated it at 10 minutes and 43 seconds.

Still trying to parrot someone else's hard work with your dollar quid store version of it I see

[PowerPal]

imo all team sports suck srs

[x-trainer ben]

soccer is dribbling, fakes and making space to move forward
hockey is stick work and changing directions to get a shot off
basketball is dribling, cuts, and fakes in order to make space to shoot
and USA football is speed,(40 yard dash) strength to get the guy off of your body, and sharp cuts, fakes, and moves like the other sports to get free and than run it in.

very comparable if you played sports.

[goingcia]

My old man is a foreigner who played soccer all his life and I grew up playing and watching it myself. I love futbol, and everything you say about it is true.

I did just explain strategy and positioning, but before you get to complicated playcalls, 90% of training and preperation is technique, footwork, hand position.

Right. And in addition to that, in other sports, there is also some complex skill involved. I think we are arguing different things. I agree that American football is hard, demanding, and complex.

Still trying to parrot someone else's hard work with your dollar quid store version of it I see

Its called having a source for your claim. Facts are usually supported by some evidence which is usually someone else's work. How dumb are you?

soccer is dribbling, fakes and making space to move forward
hockey is stick work and changing directions to get a shot off
basketball is dribling, cuts, and fakes in order to make space to shoot
and USA football is speed,(40 yard dash) strength to get the guy off of your body, and sharp cuts, fakes, and moves like the other sports to get free and than run it in.

very comparable if you played sports.

All of these are also important factors in other sports. Soccer, hockey and basketball players dont stand still while dribbling or doing what they do. They have to have speed, ability to change direction sharply, fake, and even have strength to stay up while being pushed and shoved at full speed but they ALSO do all those other things that they do. Things that require tremendous skill. No way is that comparable. Passing two defenders in soccer is a lot more impressive and requires a lot more than doing it in football.

[Vhagar]

There was an analysis done and the actual time of action is 10 minutes and 43 seconds. The rest is ads, reviews, walking around, scratching your ass, etc.




All of this is still positioning and strategy. What he is talking about is physical technical skill. Yes you do need a skill to maneuver and absorb tackles but for most players on the field, it comes down to physical strength/size and/or speed. You have to have those in other sports too but there you also need incredible skill to not just maneuver yourself but control the ball while doing it.

In eropean football, the kicks, the receiving of the ball, the control, the dribbling, the fakeouts, the precision in passing, it's all impressive to watch (same in basketball) at all times and its going on the entire match. By comparison, the actual 'action' in american football, while enjoyable due to the sheer athleticism, seems very simple.

I will clarify to your point, there is definitely strategy in american football. Absolutely. But it is just as complex in other sports where they don't pause the game every few seconds. Again, in euro football, there are plays for free kicks and there plays for organic attacks that every player on the field is aware of and its a thing of beauty watching them recognize the setups and fall into those positions or make those runs to make it happen. It's easy to see too, because the camera is zoomed out.



The cringe was another point I forgot to add. The supposed "badassery" of football is the equivalent of two ****gits standing chest to chest outside a bar, yelling "what? what?" at each other and not throwing a punch. There is a lot of tough act in the game but it never goes anywhere. A bunch of big dudes who are trained to swallow being roughed up and move on. Compared to hockey, it looks pathetic. That's the most alpha team sport on the planet by far. Speaking of cringe, those elaborate TD celebrations make me rage.



First, no, **** YOU. Second, I wasn't making any comparisons to european football in OP, you insecure ****git. But since you did, american football is passing nearly the entire game so wtf is wrong with passing? Also, let's not act like american football's 16-17 result last night (buccs vs saints) is not basically 2.2 - 2.3. A goalless soccer game is very rare and even the goalless games can be incredibly fun to watch because there is a lot to see.

And 11 minutes of action is not my estimate, there was an analysis done that estimated it at 10 minutes and 43 seconds.

It’s called soccer

[Swept]

Op doesn’t understand football

[thedarrenestes]

Its called having a source for your claim. Facts are usually supported by some evidence which is usually someone else's work. How dumb are you?

It would be called having a source if you actually provided the source...
But you haven't because either it doesn't exist, or the more likely reason is what I've said all along, it'll expose you for being a try hard unoriginal ****g0t

[goingcia]

It’s called soccer

What is?

Op doesn’t understand football

Incorrect.

It would be called having a source if you actually provided the source...
But you haven't because either it doesn't exist, or the more likely reason is what I've said all along, it'll expose you for being a try hard unoriginal ****g0t

Lmao at deleting your first response to rewrite something equally dumb.

I'll rephrase to help you understand, since you missed the point of my response. "Parroting someone's hard work" to make a claim is called basing your claim on a source. Since you are too much of a lazy ****git to google it, here

[thedarrenestes]

I'll rephrase to help you understand, since you missed the point of my response. "Parroting someone's hard work" to make a claim is called basing your claim on a source. Since you are too much of a lazy ****git to google it, here

From your "source"

Out of 174 minutes of a typical football broadcast, only 11 minutes include shots of the ball in play, according to the Wall Street Journal's study of four recent NFL football games. Other studies back them up.

Bang up work m8

[goingcia]

Bang up work m8

Brah, you are a pointless time sink. If you are actually interested, you can find the original article in 5 seconds using google. Otherwise you'll have to trust businessinsider or not.