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12-04-2022, 02:00 PM #1
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12-04-2022, 02:02 PM #2
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12-04-2022, 02:02 PM #3
Definitely natty in the HS vid. He's just really skinny and lean. Obviously he hit his dad's connection up once his career required pinnacle physique performance.
"One day I won't be able to lift any more. Not I won't want to lift. I mean physically unable. That day could be decades from now or it could be tomorrow. All I know is that's the day I'll wish I could lift more than ever. The day I'd give anything for one more workout, one more set, or one more cardio session. So go hard and enjoy every workout, every set, every rep. Because one day you will wake up and you will never get it back."
-SoutheastBeast1
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12-04-2022, 02:05 PM #4
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12-04-2022, 02:11 PM #8
You have to understand as a WR he likely isn't eating and training to be as big as possible. So he very likely is not natty. You don't just magically blow up in size from using, you still have to follow a plan and execute it properly and since I highly doubt his primary goal is to be big like his dad he's going to have a different version of the typical physique when we think non-natty.
"One day I won't be able to lift any more. Not I won't want to lift. I mean physically unable. That day could be decades from now or it could be tomorrow. All I know is that's the day I'll wish I could lift more than ever. The day I'd give anything for one more workout, one more set, or one more cardio session. So go hard and enjoy every workout, every set, every rep. Because one day you will wake up and you will never get it back."
-SoutheastBeast1
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12-04-2022, 02:14 PM #9
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12-04-2022, 04:52 PM #16
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12-04-2022, 05:13 PM #17
You still can't even say for sure. Even if he's not 'massive' he's still fast/strong/athletic. I know a lot of guys (baseball and football) who played D1. They were all juicing in high-school. My gym is near a local high-school and kids 17-18 years old are juicing in the locker room.
Its absolutely laughable when people seen a high-school athlete superstar and assume its just hard work and good genetics. Gear use is fairly prevalent in schools where athletics are big.
Zyzz was juiced to the gills and trained with higher volume/bodybuilding style routine. Look at what he looked like. Now look at the guy in the OP and realize me most likely trains some kind of upper/lower or full body routine 3-4x per week.
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12-04-2022, 05:16 PM #18
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12-04-2022, 05:23 PM #22
There is an argument that dudes that build a physique on gear will always have an advantage on guys that have never used. I know guys that cycled 10-15 years ago and are now 'natural' and they still mog 99% of natty lifters.
A lot of it probably depends on how big you were and how good your genetics were.
I had an injury/surgery and cycled off for a couple of years and really didn't lose 'that' much of my gains. Even after not lifting for about 10 months. Kept diet in check and did LISS cardio 7x per week and maintained a good physique.
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12-04-2022, 05:24 PM #23
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12-04-2022, 05:25 PM #24
I did a cycle for 12 weeks when I was 21 - 10 years ago … but even before the cycle I was 205 lean and putting up 225lbs for 12 reps on bench at 19/20 years old, squatting 315 for 12 etc all natty
I have worked out off and on for the past 10 years and literally lost all muscle mass from that cycle to the point I’ve been dyel for the majority of the past 10 years
Over the past 2 years I’ve worked out pretty consistently without using any tech and have built a physique comparable to my 19/20 year old physique where I hadn’t touched tech
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12-04-2022, 05:40 PM #25
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