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    Originally Posted by Kilted100 View Post
    As a catholic I’m glad most of the world isn’t going to heaven and instead heading straight to hell.
    Matthew 7:13-14
    13 “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. 14 But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.
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    Originally Posted by Hussar1 View Post
    Abrahamic religion, specifically Christianity, has been the reason for the downfall of the West.
    How so? I personally see it as letting women vote. Or do u mean Abrahamic religion is what caused that?
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    Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
    1John4:1

    Anyone ready to test their faith?
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
    1John4:1

    Anyone ready to test their faith?
    I’d always pass with flying colors
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    Which ones?
    Show me one of these many contradiction, I guarantee if you read scripture within context of scripture you will find no contradictions.
    Context as in "this is what I know the context to be... see? It all make sense!"

    No one has answered my question: when a non-believer is sent to hell, does the non-believer suffer pain and anguish for all of eternity?
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    Originally Posted by z4v4 View Post
    Context as in "this is what I know the context to be... see? It all make sense!"

    No one has answered my question: when a non-believer is sent to hell, does the non-believer suffer pain and anguish for all of eternity?
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    Context as in,
    Who wrote it,
    Why they wrote it,
    Who did they write it to.

    Its important to know who the message was written to.

    A message for non believers isnt going to be the same for believers.

    One of my biggest pet peeve with the church today is they assume everyone in church is a believer and they share a message of xyz,
    When in reality they need the message of abc.
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    Originally Posted by Deathstroke View Post
    Z4v4,

    Yes, they sure are.
    How? It was stated many times in this thread that only a believer's soul is given eternal life; if a non-believer's soul is tortured for all of eternity, then that too is eternal life and suggests the Catholics are correct that every soul is eternal.


    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    Context as in,
    Who wrote it,
    Why they wrote it,
    Who did they write it to.

    Its important to know who the message was written to.
    And yet this context changes depending on who you're talking to.

    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    A message for non believers isnt going to be the same for believers.

    One of my biggest pet peeve with the church today is they assume everyone in church is a believer and they share a message of xyz,
    When in reality they need the message of abc.
    99% are believers and already know the message of abc and might get too bored to stick around to give cash.
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    Definitely not all teachers have the right motive. The best of men is still just man.

    During the time of Jesus in the book of revelation He rebuked 5/7th of the churches and called them to repent.

    So 2000 years ago, 80% of the church didnt even understand their ABC's and were not ready for XYZ.

    One of the things I don't like about catholic churchs is they dont teach their follow how to read the bible.

    I really dont want to just knock on the catholic church, but theres tons of churchs out there that consider themselves Christians, but are far from it.

    Its important Christians call out the fake teachers.
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    A good teacher should know why something was written and to who it was written to.

    If you read the scripture for yourself you to should be able to figure this out to.
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    A good teacher should know why something was written and to who it was written to.

    If you read the scripture for yourself you to should be able to figure this out to.
    For example we know the first 5 books were written to the Jewish tribes,

    So if we took something out of there and applied it to Christians, by definition that would be out of context.

    A lot of outsiders fail to see the differences between old Covenant versus New Covenant. Something applied to the old will contradict something that's applied to the new.

    That's why context is so important, you can make the bible say anything you want it to (out of context)

    They say one of the worse things to do is read just one verse and base something off of just that one verse,
    Its important we take a step back and take a deeper look.
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    Catholics were the original christians though so you just took their religion and changed it lol.

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    OP big mad that Catholicism is still growing way faster than his poverty sect
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    Ironically the catholic bible does contradict itself with the extra books they added to it 500 years ago.
    https://www.biblegateway.com/blog/20...bible-written/

    Where are the Johnny-come-lately bible books to which you refer? I need some new reading. Agree with your point about Catholics not reading the bible, though. I never really understood that. We read three random bible passages a week at church and they tell me that after three full years we will have read the whole bible. How does that work when the hymnal is shorter than the bible and half of it is songs?
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    Originally Posted by jimbone21 View Post
    https://www.biblegateway.com/blog/20...bible-written/

    Where are the Johnny-come-lately bible books to which you refer? I need some new reading. Agree with your point about Catholics not reading the bible, though. I never really understood that. We read three random bible passages a week at church and they tell me that after three full years we will have read the whole bible. How does that work when the hymnal is shorter than the bible and half of it is songs?
    What do you mean they dont read the bible? Im catholic but was never religious neither were my parents, but i assure you my grandparents have read the catholic bible.

    Also, all the other sects of Christianity stem from catholicism. So why would you think that your version is superior to theirs? If you believe in the teaching of jesus and his original followers then surely the original scriptures must be the true ones, no?
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    What do you mean they dont read the bible? Im catholic but was never religious neither were my parents, but i assure you my grandparents have read the catholic bible.

    Also, all the other sects of Christianity stem from catholicism. So why would you think that your version is superior to theirs? If you believe in the teaching of jesus and his original followers then surely the original scriptures must be the true ones, no?
    Anyone can read the bible, that isn't in question. Catholics, unlike other branches of Christianity, aren't really encouraged to sit there and read the bible. There are bible study groups still and you read the bible in church, but only the chosen stories for that week. You won't really see a Catholic carrying around a bible or having a favorite bible verse, whereas the Protestants and Baptists I know are all about the bible.
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    Originally Posted by exxtracool View Post
    Catholics were the original christians though so you just took their religion and changed it lol.

    Copy cat religion
    How come their teachings contradict the Bible,

    Where in the Bible does it say your stay in "purgatory" will be shortened if your love ones give money to the church?

    If you ask me that sounds like the first church who used religion to get wealthy, and we all know that's not why Jesus came.
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    Originally Posted by BlackJack619 View Post
    How come their teachings contradict the Bible,

    Where in the Bible does it say your stay in "purgatory" will be shortened if your love ones give money to the church?

    If you ask me that sounds like the first church who used religion to get wealthy, and we all know that's not why Jesus came.
    Do your churches not ask for money? Cus ive seem some american pastors flying around in private jets lmao…

    Regardless of what the catholic church as an organization has done historically, which obviously was some crazy shiet, the catholic bible is still the true cannon translation of the original christian scripture by the direct followers of christ.

    So how can that book be incorrect? If that is your contention then logically you do not believe in the original teachings of christ.
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    It's safe to say the joel Olsteen, joyce Myers, benny's Hens, are also not Christians but wolves in sheep clothing.

    Asking for money is also one thing,
    But saying your gifts to the church is how your love ones can be saved is just wrong.

    A priest saying your sins are attoned by saying hail marries are also wrong, where in the bible is any of this backed up?
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    Who is this guy?

    Anyone try calling it?
    I tried calling it all it said was that the number was out of order.
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    American Christianity is like the kirkland coscto brand of Catholicism.
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    Originally Posted by suave2000 View Post
    American Christianity is like the kirkland coscto brand of Catholicism.
    Next time you have 2 hours and 20 minutes check out american gospel free on youtube

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    There is ALOT wrong with christianity.
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    So, can any catholic explain purgatory to me?
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    Originally Posted by dakensta View Post
    Yeah okay OP.
    So which flavour of Christianity is your one? One of the green ones I'll guess?

    No it's definitely a purple one. The reformed have a seething hatred for Catholicism.
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    Originally Posted by lasher View Post
    No it's definitely a purple one. The reformed have a seething hatred for Catholicism.
    Are you brave enough to explain purgatory?
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    We are seeing thousands of churches breaking off from the Methodist and Catholic Church due to abortion and Marxist ideology. We have false prophets everywhere now. Beware.
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    Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    We are seeing thousands of churches breaking off from the Methodist and Catholic Church due to abortion and Marxist ideology. We have false prophets everywhere now. Beware.
    This coming from a dude who believes in false prophets but isn't aware he is. Like you said - beware. Be very aware, son.
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    Originally Posted by Kraken View Post
    We are seeing thousands of churches breaking off from the Methodist and Catholic Church due to abortion and Marxist ideology. We have false prophets everywhere now. Beware.
    Yup the united Methodist are now the divided Methodist
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