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    Republicans,are you willing to lose elections forever just because of abortion or

    Not forgiving student loans? Explain your reasoning
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    Surely demographics and the media will be friendly to Republicans if only they caved on abortion and student loan forgiveness. Surely.
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    Republicans aren’t banning abortions

    America is in the top 7 most extreme countries in the world for late term abortions

    In France you aren’t getting one past 14 weeks etc..

    Not protecting post 20 week abortions isn’t extreme.



    Do you know I actually donate to stop abortions? All I do is spend money to offer free ultrasounds and something like 90% of people decide to keep the baby after seeing it.

    People don’t even understand what they are doing.

    But let’s keep the demonic practice that was getting pushed towards enabling abortion all the way up to birth during a time of scientific community overreach into abusing alive fetuses.


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    I don’t understand this whole line of thinking that republicans need to adopt democrat policy positions…umm that would make them democrats. If you lose on that so be it, I don’t want republicans flipping to supporting abortion up until the moment of birth just to get in office.


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    Originally Posted by Fang2 View Post
    Not forgiving student loans? Explain your reasoning
    Many of the posters here you believe to be MAGA would vote for Biden/AOC in '24 over Trump/anyone, if only their abortion polices were swapped(Biden complete ban/Trump wide open) while everything else being the same.
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    Originally Posted by Fang2 View Post
    Not forgiving student loans? Explain your reasoning
    Abortions - should just codify 20 weeks plus medical exceptions and be done with it.

    Student load forgiveness - no.

    Reasoning? Allowing abortion rights doesn't cost anything, forgiving student loans costs billions. I'm not into wasting money and increasing our already staggering debt.
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    Most people support abortion in some form so saying conservatives as a whole don’t support it is dishonest
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    As a Republican, yes, I am satisfied to keep losing elections.

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    I think most Republicans would say yes. If it was a binary choice and they could sacrifice every future election to get abortion banned they would. Thats what conviction is.
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    Originally Posted by Fang2 View Post
    Not forgiving student loans? Explain your reasoning
    How about you explain why student loan debt forgiveness is going to help the situation.
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    Leftist cucks: REEEE!! We need power to the people! we need our voices heard!
    Supreme Court: Ok, we have listened to your constant whining and will now let the people and their respected states decide.
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    That's exactly how I imagined Trump was behaving in the White House when Biden curb-stomped him.
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    Politicians that set limits on abortion did quite well in the last election often winning in landslides. Florida's governor Ron DeSantis is one example of that.
    There does appear to be though concerns over banning abortion and that reportedly did bring out more females to vote for Dems.. Maybe the GOP will work on the Fed. nationalizing abortion, with limits.

    Some on that can be read about here ~

    "These Pro-Life Republican Victories Show Abortion Radicalism Isn’t The Winner Democrats Want It To Be"

    https://thefederalist.com/2022/11/09...want-it-to-be/

    that is what some have written, that Biden's student debt forgiveness was a cynical vote winner for the Democrats in the last election. As many said what Biden did was not legal. That wasn't the point though. Giving money to often times the wealthiest Americans did work. Will be interesting to see if it works again in the future. That is of course if the Supreme Court turns down Biden's EO as many expect.

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    Right After Biden Successfully Buys Votes With Student Loan Bailout, Supreme Court Will Weigh In
    Biden might not even care if the Supreme Court strikes his loan forgiveness program. If already worked to get out Democrat midterm votes.

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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    Abortions - should just codify 20 weeks plus medical exceptions and be done with it.

    Student load forgiveness - no.

    Reasoning? Allowing abortion rights doesn't cost anything, forgiving student loans costs billions. I'm not into wasting money and increasing our already staggering debt.
    Minimum 10 weeks, max 20 weeks (aside from medical exceptions). Agreed. Republicans should support this and make it a non-factor in 2024.

    Why are Republicans against abortion any way? The bible says nothing about abortion (though it does say something about masturbation - masturbation is banned lol).
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    Why are Republicans against abortion any way?
    Possibly because its bad for society?

    And dont bother going on about how im a prolifer and dont know what im talking about. I would be ok with reasonable limits, but you ****s cant be reasonable.
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    When firearms are truly banned in the US, it won't be the fault of Democrats. It'll be bible thumping Republicans who have no power to stop it, because abortion.

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    Abortions - should just codify 20 weeks plus medical exceptions and be done with it.

    Student load forgiveness - no.

    Reasoning? Allowing abortion rights doesn't cost anything, forgiving student loans costs billions. I'm not into wasting money and increasing our already staggering debt.
    I'd rather my tax dollars go to educating America's future than going to Israel, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, South Korea....
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    When firearms are truly banned in the US, it won't be the fault of Democrats. It'll be bible thumping Republicans who have no power to stop it, because abortion.

    Fact.
    The GOP primary base would gladly trade the 2nd amendment for abortion.

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    I'd rather my tax dollars go to educating America's future than going to Israel, Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, South Korea....
    Why can't we do both? It doesn't have to be a trade off.
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    Originally Posted by Jayarbie View Post
    Why can't we do both? It doesn't have to be a trade off.
    Foreign entanglements. I'd rather deal with the statistical abuse of a cradle to adulthood system for every kid in the US, than send one fukkin penny outside our borders.
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    As far as I can tell the answer looks like a yes. By the time 2024 rolls around if you can't make the zoomers happy, pack it up.
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    Maybe killing babies is where the line is drawn for some?
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    Originally Posted by jeffl1980 View Post
    Maybe killing babies is where the line is drawn for some?
    Thanks for taking our firearms, kunt.
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    Strange, mine are still sitting inside my safes. Only a true kunt would give up their arms.
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    Originally Posted by jeffl1980 View Post
    Strange, mine are still sitting inside my safes. Only a true kunt would give up their arms.
    Lol..yeah...You'll strap on those nods, plate carrier and totally take it to the glow bois.🙄
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    Originally Posted by Duckliver View Post
    Republicans aren’t banning abortions

    America is in the top 7 most extreme countries in the world for late term abortions

    In France you aren’t getting one past 14 weeks etc..

    Not protecting post 20 week abortions isn’t extreme.



    Do you know I actually donate to stop abortions? All I do is spend money to offer free ultrasounds and something like 90% of people decide to keep the baby after seeing it.

    People don’t even understand what they are doing.

    But let’s keep the demonic practice that was getting pushed towards enabling abortion all the way up to birth during a time of scientific community overreach into abusing alive fetuses.


    You disgust me.
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    Foreign entanglements. I'd rather deal with the statistical abuse of a cradle to adulthood system for every kid in the US, than send one fukkin penny outside our borders.
    Sending a penny outside our borders isn't the problem. It's the regime change bs. Foreign aid is extremely important. A small amount of money now spent on education and development can prevent fuking wars later. We should be giving aid to countries that need it, like places in Africa and Asia with abject poverty, not fuking Israel and SK.
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