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    Why Do You Still Comply To Gubmint??

    Haven't you witnessed firsthand how politicians just want to bend you over and stick a 2-foot long, 3-inch diameter cactus in your sphincter?

    Haven't you seen the lies and evil $hit they do to Humanity? The jab, the economy, the rigged elections, etc...

    Yet many still comply.

    Blind followers - you are part of the problem.

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    Why do people still get married when marriages have constantly proven to be toxic, abusive, and one of the biggest wastes of the best years of your life? Because generalizing something so large and complex in to something so simple is silly. There are aspects of the government that function well and there are other aspects of the government that are corrupt, useless wastes of resources.

    So I wouldn't say that I trust the government so much as I think they are a necessary evil. There are some functions that come with running a state that simply should not be left to privatization. Also, I think unchecked privatization arguably results in more corruption and abuse than the government, not that I would look to defend the latter on any accord.

    At least I get a vote with the elections. You think Jeff Bezos gives a fck about what I think about how he's running his company?
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    At least I get a vote with the elections.

    I don’t know how you can feel good about voting for your own demise.

    I saw a post somewhere on a friends FB, he’s a masker, his buddy said that he finds it terrifying that Walker is so close to win.

    My thought was, maybe so, but it’s also terrifying if the other guy wins too.

    He wants someone to take of him, which is sad, he’s doomed no matter what.
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    Why do people still get married when marriages have constantly proven to be toxic, abusive, and one of the biggest wastes of the best years of your life? Because generalizing something so large and complex in to something so simple is silly. There are aspects of the government that function well and there are other aspects of the government that are corrupt, useless wastes of resources.

    So I wouldn't say that I trust the government so much as I think they are a necessary evil. There are some functions that come with running a state that simply should not be left to privatization. Also, I think unchecked privatization arguably results in more corruption and abuse than the government, not that I would look to defend the latter on any accord.

    At least I get a vote with the elections. You think Jeff Bezos gives a fck about what I think about how he's running his company?
    Questions:

    A. How many have gubmints killed over the years through wars? MILLIONS AND MILLIONS.
    B. How many nations have been impoverished through socialism? Lots and lots.

    Do you honestly believe private organizations are capable of killing millions and impoverishing many more?

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    Originally Posted by NorwichGrad View Post
    Questions:

    A. How many have gubmints killed over the years through wars? MILLIONS AND MILLIONS.
    B. How many nations have been impoverished through socialism? Lots and lots.

    Do you honestly believe private organizations are capable of killing millions and impoverishing many more?

    Checkmate.

    Saying that governments bear responsibility for killing people so they must be erased is a bit intellectually dishonest, no? Where in human history would you draw the line between where human conflict/death was rooted in government or non government reasons? Wouldn’t it be more accurate to say “man’s desire for power” is the greatest killer. Powerful people manipulating the masses don’t need auth governments to do so.

    Want to criticize government sanctioned murder? I'll lead the fcking charge. Want to try to say that people make sh*tty decisions so we should just get rid of entire systems that keep over 300 Million people in relative stability? You're on your own. There's a reason ancaps didn't create modern Western civilization, or Eastern civilization.

    And in practice any anarchist system, be it communist or capitalist, would quickly be conquered by a nation state that had taxes and a professional army and then it would no longer be anarchist, or it would simply devolve into feudalism and be conquered from within by the luckiest warlord.


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    I don’t know how you can feel good about voting for your own demise.

    I saw a post somewhere on a friends FB, he’s a masker, his buddy said that he finds it terrifying that Walker is so close to win.

    My thought was, maybe so, but it’s also terrifying if the other guy wins too.

    He wants someone to take of him, which is sad, he’s doomed no matter what.
    Only democracies intentionally place restrictions on power. They may do it badly, but a corporation or an autocracy won’t do it at all.
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    Only democracies intentionally place restrictions on power. They may do it badly, but a corporation or an autocracy won’t do it at all.

    They only place restrictions on power that threatens THEM. They empower everything that controls its people.

    You need gubmit to tell you it’s ok to smoke your pot.
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    They only place restrictions on power that threatens THEM. They empower everything that controls its people.

    You need gubmit to tell you it’s ok to smoke your pot.
    So I assume you have a viable alternative? As far as I can tell, the goal seems to be equivalent to the cartel-dominated regions of Mexico, no power in the elected government, rival corporations violently competing for territory.
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    LMAO @ the Johova Preppers on another anti government rant.

    This time asking why folks comply to the government, meanwhile they are paying taxes and complying just like everyone else.


    What we have here folks is a couple of little bitch hypocrites.
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    Originally Posted by NorwichGrad View Post
    Haven't you witnessed firsthand how politicians just want to bend you over and stick a 2-foot long, 3-inch diameter cactus in your sphincter?

    Haven't you seen the lies and evil $hit they do to Humanity? The jab, the economy, the rigged elections, etc...

    Yet many still comply.

    Blind followers - you are part of the problem.

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    A belief that gubmint is necessary evil is a belief that evil is necessary.

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    They have tanks
    Lmfao. I served with an armored unit.

    The US Army couldn’t even hold a piece of real estate in A-Stan against a bunch of amateur goat fukkers armed only with WWII bolt action mosins.
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    Originally Posted by NorwichGrad View Post
    A belief that gubmint is necessary evil is a belief that evil is necessary.
    Makes for a nice bumper sticker but no real alternative is ever offered. Shouting how evil statists are doesn't mean much when that can be boiled down to "I want some form of a government" in a nutshell. "Statism” isn't anything with a little-bit of state any more than "anarchy" is anything with a little-bit of self-determination. And when people are looking for solutions, they aren’t really obligated to listen to people without any.


    Constantly calling people a Statist or sheep and then saying something along the lines of "here's the truth..." isn’t all that helpful. It's not "the truth", it's just an opinion. And it comes across as arrogant, which never helps when trying to lay a foundation for cooperative understanding. Just my two cents.
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    they are paying taxes and complying just like everyone else.

    Depends on the job.
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    Lmfao. I served with an armored unit.

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    still waiting to find out who fixes the potholes in your fantasy world (which will never exist)
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    still waiting to find out who fixes the potholes in your fantasy world (which will never exist)
    Are you srs?

    We don’t need gubmit to fix the fuking street.
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    56, the state is the reason why potholes don’t get fixed.

    If it’s up to the people, that chit gets done.

    I know a guy who worked for the state highway, he had to leave because you won’t feel like you are serving the public.

    No gratification in it, but the money wasn’t bad.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Are you srs?

    We don’t need gubmit to fix the fuking street.

    OK I'll send you my address and you can drop by to fix my street
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    56, the state is the reason why potholes don’t get fixed.

    If it’s up to the people, that chit gets done.

    I know a guy who worked for the state highway, he had to leave because you won’t feel like you are serving the public.

    No gratification in it, but the money wasn’t bad.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Are you srs?

    We don’t need gubmit to fix the fuking street.
    The question isn’t really who fixes the road, it’s who pays for it. Roads are essentially required to travel places which makes competition and typical market forces like supply and demand go haywire (a bit like healthcare, but to a lesser extent). A government having uniform ownership over a road is a bit more convenient and practical for everyone involved. But again, feel free to offer an alternative.
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    Depends on the job.


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    Originally Posted by mtpockets View Post
    You pay taxes so stop trying to skirt around it with your bull****

    Apparently MAGA doesn’t pay taxes.
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    The question isn’t really who fixes the road, it’s who pays for it. Roads are essentially required to travel places which makes competition and typical market forces like supply and demand go haywire (a bit like healthcare, but to a lesser extent). A government having uniform ownership over a road is a bit more convenient and practical for everyone involved. But again, feel free to offer an alternative.


    It’s not that hard dude. We pay to have our community fixed up except the street because the county owns the street.

    Everything else we pay for and we meet every few months to discuss the budget along and we discuss the problems of some who aren’t paying.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    It’s not that hard dude. We pay to have our community fixed up except the street because the county owns the street.

    Everything else we pay for and we meet every few months to discuss the budget along and we discuss the problems of some who aren’t paying.
    sounds like you are creating a gubmint
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    It’s not that hard dude. We pay to have our community fixed up except the street because the county owns the street.

    Everything else we pay for and we meet every few months to discuss the budget along and we discuss the problems of some who aren’t paying.
    So every road should be owned by some “road owners” association?
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Are you srs?

    We don’t need gubmit to fix the fuking street.
    Just Rod Stewart (or someone else with his $$$$)

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    Originally Posted by startingat56 View Post
    sounds like you are creating a gubmint
    Nice try.

    We don’t make laws.

    We don’t throw people in prison for not paying eithier. If someone isn’t paying and are benefiting from us paying we will want to try to work with them.

    If we can eliminate them from the services we will.

    And all you guys always remember that I’m anti forced tax not anti tax.

    You guys keep forgetting this. I bet NG knows this about me.

    I’m ok with paying a low tax across the board. I’m NOT ok with imprisonment. If people don’t pay eliminate them from the service. I also believe in helping people who need help.

    NG, these statist nuthiggers are a funny bunch. These guys most likely would want a hanging for tax dodgers but would vote one in if they enforced a lockdown like Chyna.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Nice try.

    We don’t make laws.

    We don’t throw people in prison for not paying eithier. If someone isn’t paying and are benefiting from us paying we will want to try to work with them.

    If we can eliminate them from the services we will.

    And all you guys always remember that I’m anti forced tax not anti tax.

    You guys keep forgetting this. I bet NG knows this about me.

    I’m ok with paying a low tax across the board. I’m NOT ok with imprisonment. If people don’t pay eliminate them from the service. I also believe in helping people who need help.

    NG, these statist nuthiggers are a funny bunch. These guys most likely would want a hanging for tax dodgers but would vote one in if they enforced a lockdown like Chyna.
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    Originally Posted by startingat56 View Post
    translation:

    I'm making this up as I go along
    Translation for this: I handed you your azz and your embaressed to admit it.

    I hope you get those pot holes fixed, too bad your still waiting on the state to handle it and they are playing the red tape game with you, while they still take you money.
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    Originally Posted by LWW View Post
    Nice try.

    We don’t make laws.

    We don’t throw people in prison for not paying eithier. If someone isn’t paying and are benefiting from us paying we will want to try to work with them.

    If we can eliminate them from the services we will.

    And all you guys always remember that I’m anti forced tax not anti tax.

    You guys keep forgetting this. I bet NG knows this about me.

    I’m ok with paying a low tax across the board. I’m NOT ok with imprisonment. If people don’t pay eliminate them from the service. I also believe in helping people who need help.

    NG, these statist nuthiggers are a funny bunch. These guys most likely would want a hanging for tax dodgers but would vote one in if they enforced a lockdown like Chyna.
    Again, so each road is managed privately by a community association or a private owner? What would stop a firm from buying a road from a private owner outside peoples homes and then charging exorbitant amounts per month to use the road? What would stop a firm from buying a road, making it completely unaffordable to use, then extorting people who live on that road to sell their homes for far below market value?
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    Originally Posted by 7Seconds View Post
    Again, so each road is managed privately by a community association or a private owner? What would stop a firm from buying a road from a private owner outside peoples homes and then charging exorbitant amounts per month to use the road? What would stop a firm from buying a road, making it completely unaffordable to use, then extorting people who live on that road to sell their homes for far below market value?
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