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    Originally Posted by JayJ350 View Post
    You need to find a new hobby OP
    Didn't you make a thread complaining about how your sister is a giant whore and it makes you rage so hard that you started fukking guys as well to teach her a lesson? That's literally your origin story, I think I'll be okay without your advice bro lmao.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Didn't you make a thread complaining about how your sister is a giant whore and it makes you rage so hard that you started fukking guys as well to teach her a lesson? That's literally your origin story, I think I'll be okay without your advice bro lmao.







    Now it all makes sense, dude's pissed he was brother zoned.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Didn't you make a thread complaining about how your sister is a giant whore and it makes you rage so hard that you started fukking guys as well to teach her a lesson? That's literally your origin story, I think I'll be okay without your advice bro lmao.
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    Now it all makes sense, dude's pissed he was brother zoned.
    Jay wants to fawk his sister?
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    In b4 eod chits himself

    Not really even a fair comparison - remember that energy cannot be created, nor destroyed - these '4090 builds' are drawing 700-750 watts total out of the wall and converting it all to heat, since ones and zeros (i.e., the processed data) don't contain any energy.. maybe one watt or some crap? Then it goes to a monitor and gets converted to an image.

    A photorealistic console that abides by energy regulations won't be out until the 2030s IMO - unless some serious bounds and leaps in GPU compute tech are made? Maybe upscaling tech would do it? So maybe even 2027ish
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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    Not really even a fair comparison - remember that energy cannot be created, nor destroyed - these '4090 builds' are drawing 700-750 watts total out of the wall and converting it all to heat, since ones and zeros (i.e., the processed data) don't contain any energy.. maybe one watt or some crap? Then it goes to a monitor and gets converted to an image.

    A photorealistic console that abides by energy regulations won't be out until the 2030s IMO - unless some serious bounds and leaps in GPU compute tech are made? Maybe upscaling tech would do it? So maybe even 2027ish
    Hardware and software will get optimized over time. I would expect PS6 launch titles to look similar to this.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Hardware and software will get optimized over time. I would expect PS6 launch titles to look similar to this.
    I dunno about that one - that would mean that each GPU would have to be twice to thrice as strong as the 4090, so it would render as good as the 4090, but with only 200ish watts of power drawn for the GPU (or 250-275ish total)... I guess that might be possible in 2027-2028?
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    Originally Posted by WiseOldApe View Post
    I dunno about that one - that would mean that each GPU would have to be twice to thrice as strong as the 4090, so it would render as good as the 4090, but with only 200ish watts of power drawn for the GPU (or 250-275ish total)... I guess that might be possible in 2027-2028?
    I'm seeing the best GPU in 2014 when PS4 was out was the GTX 980.

    6 years later the PS5 absolutely destroys that card.


    The best GPU in 2022 is the 4090

    6 years later the PS6 will still be weaker? Highly doubtful.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    I would expect PS6 launch titles to look similar to this.


    You don't actually believe yourself when you say things like this...right?


    brb PS5 can't even give 60FPS at 4K in most games

    brb PS6 gonna suddenly be able to run games on the level of an RTX 4090...which is something absolutely insane like 3-3.5X the raw performance of a PS5 GPU lmfao.

    How big do you suspect the PS6 will need to be to handle/cool 600+ watts of power? Because the PS5 is already fking huge and only draws 1/3 of that.
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    PS6 probably isnt pulling off the rtx in OP's video.... But the character model and detail is already being achieved in games like TLOU2 and I'm sure Naughty Dog might end up surpassing it this gen lol .... The cloth material is also something I dont see happening at least until maaaaybe late ps6 or PS7. The dress physics is pretty insane. I dont see that happening this gen in real time, maybe in pre rendered cutscenes.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    You don't actually believe yourself when you say things like this...right?


    brb PS5 can't even give 60FPS at 4K in most games

    brb PS6 gonna suddenly be able to run games on the level of an RTX 4090...which is something absolutely insane like 3-3.5X the raw performance of a PS5 GPU lmfao.

    How big do you suspect the PS6 will need to be to handle/cool 600+ watts of power? Because the PS5 is already fking huge and only draws 1/3 of that.
    Urine idiot. Tech will continue to advance and chips will get more efficient and powerful. So too will things on the software side. What we need 600 watts to do today we'll achieve with far less power in 8 years. What was the top GPU in 2013? You would be loling @ PS4cels saying they could never achieve the GTX 980 by 2020, surely that's impossible. Guess what, tech advanced and the PS5 slaughters a high end PC from 2013.
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    Originally Posted by bongowongo View Post
    PS6 probably isnt pulling off the rtx in OP's video....
    Why not? Chips are improving yearly and engines are getting crazy good.

    Find me the best looking PC game from 2013 and let's compare it to Demon's Souls on PS5.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Urine idiot. Tech will continue to advance and chips will get more efficient and powerful.
    Yeah...where have we gotten more efficient? It's nothing but power increases generation after generation lmfao.
    brb CPU's alone are drawing more power than entire systems were just 8 years ago.
    Keep dreaming brah.

    You're not getting anything in a console even remotely close to a 4090 for yearssssssssssssssss to come.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Why not? Chips are improving yearly and engines are getting crazy good.

    Find me the best looking PC game from 2013 and let's compare it to Demon's Souls on PS5.
    Lmao I can't even take you seriously.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Yeah...where have we gotten more efficient? It's nothing but power increases generation after generation lmfao.
    brb CPU's alone are drawing more power than entire systems were just 8 years ago.
    Keep dreaming brah.

    You're not getting anything in a console even remotely close to a 4090 for yearssssssssssssssss to come.
    Failed to address my point. Your example of the 600 watts thing was asinine because tech in 6-8 years will be much more efficient. PS6 won't need 600 watts to achieve graphics in the OP.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Failed to address my point. Your example of the 600 watts thing was asinine because tech in 6-8 years will be much more efficient. PS6 won't need 600 watts to achieve graphics in the OP.
    WE ARE NOT ON ANY SORT OF PATH WHATSOEVER TO GET MORE EFFICINT. I don't know what the hell else to tell you that you will understand that lmfao.

    1080Ti power draw: ~250W
    2080Ti power draw: ~300W
    3080Ti power draw: ~350W

    You're gonna get your 4090 in a PS5 in no time though. Surely.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    WE ARE NOT ON ANY SORT OF PATH WHATSOEVER TO GET MORE EFFICINT. I don't know what the hell else to tell you that you will understand that lmfao.

    1080Ti power draw: ~250W
    2080Ti power draw: ~300W
    3080Ti power draw: ~350W

    You're gonna get your 4090 in a PS5 in no time though. Surely.

    In 2030 what wattage you suppose high end PC GPU's are gonna pull? Ballpark it for me
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    In 2030 what wattage you suppose high end PC GPU's are gonna pull? Ballpark it for me
    Well if we completely ignore the last 8 years we'll be at 200 watts like you're dreaming of bro. Don't worry.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Well if we completely ignore the last 8 years we'll be at 200 watts like you're dreaming of bro. Don't worry.
    Nice deflection. Can't answer the question, you lil pussy. You saw exactly where I was going and realized your retardism, lmao.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    Nice deflection. Can't answer the question, you lil pussy. You saw exactly where I was going and realized your retardism, lmao.
    Are you actually high? Are you just pretending that the power draws I posted aren't going up generation after generation? Are you actually retarded? I have so many questions.

    Based on that, we'll be pulling 500+ watts easily in ~8 years on top cards.

    Keep being absolutely fking retarded though...


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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    Are you actually high? Are you just pretending that the power draws I posted aren't going up generation after generation? Are you actually retarded? I have so many questions.

    Based on that, we'll be pulling 500+ watts easily in ~8 years on top cards.

    Keep being absolutely fking retarded though...


    Don't worry brah, they're gonna put a 400+ watt card in your PS6.



    Surely.
    I'll answer your so many questions but I just asked you one and you keep deflecting.

    What power wattage do you believe a top PC will pull in 2030? It's a simple question. I'm a complete noob and you don't need to be exact, ballpark is fine.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    I'll answer your so many questions but I just asked you one and you keep deflecting.

    What power wattage do you believe a top PC will pull in 2030? It's a simple question. I'm a complete noob and you don't need to be exact, ballpark is fine.
    Well we're already well over 650 watts and we're only increasing gen to gen. 750-800+ seems like the low end that we're headed for by then.
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    Well we're already well over 650 watts and we're only increasing gen to gen. 750-800+ seems like the low end that we're headed for by then.
    Okay so let's use the higher end of your range and say 850 give or take. That's 33% higher wattage than a 4090 roughly. So you're saying that the top card in 8 years will only have roughly 33% more performance than a 4090?

    If yes then that doesn't line up with the yearly gains I've been seeing and I find it incredibly disappointing.

    If no, then certainly I was right in assuming that performance will not scale linearly with power draw, and that in 8 years it may be very possible to have a PS6 pulling 450-500 Watts while performing better than a 4090.

    Conclusion, I don't think your power draw argument holds as a limiting factor for PS6. I don't think performance will scale linearly with wattage as new technologies develop that are far more efficient than the hardware we have today.
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    Originally Posted by Coal Man View Post
    That's 33% higher wattage than a 4090 roughly. So you're saying that the top card in 8 years will only have roughly 33% more performance than a 4090?
    If yes then that doesn't line up with the yearly gains I've been seeing and I find it incredibly disappointing.
    ...who said that performance was linear to power increases? You've absolutely 100% convinced me that you don't read, won't read, can't read, and/or are just 100% fking retarded.
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    Originally Posted by R3L3NTL3SS View Post
    ...who said that performance was linear to power increases? You've absolutely 100% convinced me that you don't read, won't read, can't read, and/or are just 100% fking retarded.
    The question was why can't PS6 perform like a 4090 in 2030. The only argument you retards brought up was the high 600 watts the 4090 needs today. My point was to show wattage won't be an issue because GPU's in 2030 will be able to match or surpass a 4090 while using less power due to efficiency gains.

    You need to come up with another argument why the PS6 won't look like that. Power consumption argument is a failure.
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